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In reply to the discussion: NY Times: Bernie Sanders Accuses Liberal Think Tank of Smearing Progressive Candidates [View all]Gothmog
(178,666 posts)91. sanders does not want to be vetted
No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717
Finally, what happens when the oppo dump on Sanders comes? We have no idea, because it never happened in 2016. Clinton was so terrified of alienating his supporters and seeing them vote for Jill Stein in the general election (or not vote at all) that she tiptoed around him for pretty much the entirety of the primary campaign. That doesnt mean that hell be destroyed when stories about the more colorful aspects of his history start cropping up, but theres just no way to know.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0
2. How will he withstand more scrutiny and more attacks?
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
Now we can see how sanders reacts to being vetted
Link to tweet
Among some Democrats, there was a sense of bewilderment that the Sanders campaign had goneas one operative put itnuclear over a mere web video. One Democratic consultant sympathetic to Sanders described the video as being like a gnat buzzing around your ear, one which should not have distracted from the candidates Midwest tour.
It also raised questions as to whether the senator was ready for the scrutiny that would come from being a frontrunning candidate, after having run as an insurgent against an ideal foil, Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
When youre leading in the polls of president of your party you should expect investigative stories to hit at least once a week and to be attacked by your opponents every day, said Ben Labolt, who served as press secretary to Barack Obama during the 2012 campaign. An attack on something like ThinkProgress is the sign of a super-narrow-minded campaign that isnt actually thinking of how the election will be won... They have chosen an establishment force that no one outside of the Starbucks at 16th and K would recognize.
It also raised questions as to whether the senator was ready for the scrutiny that would come from being a frontrunning candidate, after having run as an insurgent against an ideal foil, Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
When youre leading in the polls of president of your party you should expect investigative stories to hit at least once a week and to be attacked by your opponents every day, said Ben Labolt, who served as press secretary to Barack Obama during the 2012 campaign. An attack on something like ThinkProgress is the sign of a super-narrow-minded campaign that isnt actually thinking of how the election will be won... They have chosen an establishment force that no one outside of the Starbucks at 16th and K would recognize.
I am glad that sanders is being vetted
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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NY Times: Bernie Sanders Accuses Liberal Think Tank of Smearing Progressive Candidates [View all]
George II
Apr 2019
OP
LOL!! You make the accusation that "Dems rig the Senate election" for Bernie?!?!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#82
I love the way people say "your premise is wrong" or "you're wrong" without addressing what...
George II
Apr 2019
#99
I know of no one that fills that blank, certainly not after this public display. (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#59
Really?! Can think of a few... Bernie is handling it like a CHAMP by comparison!!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#60
None come to mind who have this kind of public display of pique about being critiqued.
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#61
Whoever the Democratic candidate is they will have to win without the votes of a certain
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2019
#79
What's right - you mean like calling CAP "corrupt corp shills" - or praising them for "good work?"
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#64
The DLCC is NOT the DLC, two entirely different organizations. The only thing they have in common..
George II
Apr 2019
#24
The quote from that poster.. "Corporate dems, the dnc and the dlc want to support one of their own.
Cha
Apr 2019
#33
Imagine that. The Democrat party moving to support an actual member of the party
tymorial
Apr 2019
#103
The attacks on Bernie are a GOOD sign... shows he's winning. Otherwise, they would just ignore him!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#31
promised positive campaign, already smeared everyone else, PP HRC in the past
robbedvoter
Apr 2019
#17
Why doesn't Bernie have a problem with $20 million from corporate investors in The Young Turks?
Cha
Apr 2019
#38
It is weird to see Bernie's campaign calling CAP corrupt corporate shills in an effort to raise $$$
Cha
Apr 2019
#41
Progressives sometimes disagree with him? It must have been very hard to discover that. (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#51
"What's the reason for his letter? One can surmise it's about 'working the refs,' trying to
Cha
Apr 2019
#88
I think he's copying Trump's playbook. I believe he is trying to attract the attention of
okaawhatever
Apr 2019
#96
Washington Post-Opinion: Sanders's testiness will revive long-standing concerns
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#89