Democratic Primaries

ehrnst

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205. Still evading backing your up your claims with actual numbers...

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:04 PM

Apr 2019

Can you at least acknowledge the fact that you have no idea what the actual numbers are, and you are simply convinced of Bernie's "democratic-ness" because you simply wish it to be true, and need no real evidence?

You've already been shown you are wrong about the facts his current party status, despite many, many frantic protestations to the contrary in this thread alone..

Just own that this isn't about logic, or math, it's about being a booster. Trying to shoehorn facts into what is faith-based never works. Cheerleaders don't need a winning record to yell, "We're Number One!" or "We're proud of our boys!" at a pep rally - the team's actual record isn't the point of "team spirit." However if you confuse "team spirit" with an actual analysis of the team by those who are not cheerleaders, then you run into what you're experiencing here - reality that doesn't conform to one's faith.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Worrying trend with Senator Sanders' supporters [View all] KitSileya Apr 2019 OP

Exposes the Bobs for who they are liberal N proud Apr 2019 #1

They keep telling us it's a myth. Seriously... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #77

Of course Bernie or Busters should be identified, they are usually glad to self identify Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #91

Interesting, yet not at all surprising. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #2

Are these polls taken in person, over the phone, or by mail or on-line? sarabelle Apr 2019 #73

No surprises here sad to say. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #3

Only 51% of current BS supporters voted in the 2016 General Election for the Democratic nominee. lapucelle Apr 2019 #4

That's no big surprise, especially considering that three top members of the Sanders campaign.... George II Apr 2019 #7

yes, a huge % of Sanderite actual Dems from 2016 have dropped Sanders in 2020, from the article.... Celerity Apr 2019 #44

Given those numbers, where is the support coming from? Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #180

seems to be a Celerity maths day, lol (just did big drill down post on another subject) Celerity Apr 2019 #184

Thanks for this information mcar Apr 2019 #211

Nice compilation. But do you know what's up with Emerson's polling? Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #220

Many might have been too young to vote in 2016. dawg day Apr 2019 #302

No real surprise here. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #5

That is basically what I am hearing at140 Apr 2019 #29

In '68 some "revolutionaries" said they were voting for Wallace. MarcA Apr 2019 #71

Many RFK supprters voted for Wallace after Bobby was assansiinated Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #80

Were these people interviewed all democrats? vsrazdem Apr 2019 #6

These people are Sanders supporters. Sanders is running for the Democratic nomination. George II Apr 2019 #9

Yes, but all sanders supporters are not democrats. Many are independents and don't vsrazdem Apr 2019 #10

Sanders isn't a Democrat. SergeStorms Apr 2019 #14

Wrong again! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #52

When did bernie become a dem, or did I just miss the most recent "check in?" Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #54

He hasn't. Just BS. we can do it Apr 2019 #90

Please stop spreading misinformation that Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #199

Yes, Sanders is a temporary REGISTERED Hortensis Apr 2019 #215

We can argue whether it's temporary or not... but thanks for at least acknowledging what is InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #216

How can it not be temporary, when he's already filed as and Independent in 2022? KitSileya Apr 2019 #231

Guess we could ask President Sanders (D) at his initial press conference whether he intends InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #232

Or we could ask him about it at the first debate, KitSileya Apr 2019 #235

Nope. You've been shown to be mistaken on that. ehrnst Apr 2019 #287

LOL Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #323

How do think Bernie is running in the 2020 Democratic primary, in which InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #198

Sanders is not a dem!! I'll say it again and agree with the other poster Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #55

Yup, Bernie IS a Dem... read the pledge he signed!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #131

He signed paperwork to run as an independent for Senate reelection in 2024...(nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #175

Yup, change the subject... I would too if I were you and knew Bernie is a Democrat. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #177

What mistake? ehrnst Apr 2019 #182

Actually, it's you that needs to admit your mistake. ehrnst Apr 2019 #192

OK so splain how Bernie's runnin for the 2020 Democratic nomination since only DEMOCRATS can do that InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #195

Because you are wrong, and he hasn't become a Democrat yet. Now splain to me why Senate.gov ehrnst Apr 2019 #196

Wrong! But, if you're being serious - I can't tell - you should contact the DNC... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #197

WRONG, as you have been shown by the current, updated Friday Senate.gov website. ehrnst Apr 2019 #288

Honestly this seems a little silly. Neoma Apr 2019 #309

I know. However, bLue feels a need for Bernie to be called a Democrat, when as of this week ehrnst Apr 2019 #311

He should be considered an equal Democratic candidate for president. Neoma Apr 2019 #312

No, bLue is insisting that he is currently actually a self-identified Democrat, since the moment ehrnst Apr 2019 #314

Either way. Neoma Apr 2019 #317

If that's all bLue is saying, that would true. ehrnst Apr 2019 #320

Ok. Neoma Apr 2019 #321

I think that someone lashing out at fellow Democrats when they are presented with facts ehrnst Apr 2019 #322

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #178

BS has never been a Democrat. we can do it Apr 2019 #88

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Bernie's also more of a Democrat than most Democrats based on his voting record InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #92

I is not and never will be D. we can do it Apr 2019 #94

No, BUT an I with a SMILE ... I + ) ... IS a D!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #98

😂 we can do it Apr 2019 #100

He's listed on Senate.gov as (I-V) not (D-V) ehrnst Apr 2019 #187

He is not a member of the party. You can say he is like a Democrat, but you have to join Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #103

Read the pledge Bernie signed... it's President Sanders (D)!! How clear is that?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #109

He is running as a Democrat. He Agreed to remain a Democrat after the election Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #111

I trust President Sanders (D) to keep his word... so should you. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #115

You mean Senator Sanders (I-V)? ehrnst Apr 2019 #188

So why is he listed as (I-V) on Senate.gov? ehrnst Apr 2019 #148

+1000 Power 2 the People Apr 2019 #143

Can you define "more of a Democrat than most Democrats? ehrnst Apr 2019 #144

By comparison... NO QUESTION!! Splains Bernie's overwhelming popularity. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #146

Compared to what? ehrnst Apr 2019 #150

Other Democrats, doh! You know Bernie votes w/ fellow Democrats an OVERWHELMING majority of the time InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #157

So where are your numbers? ehrnst Apr 2019 #164

Yup, Bernie IS a fellow Democrat... and you already have the numbers... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #174

As of 5 minutes ago. Senate.gov lists him as Independent. You're wrong. ehrnst Apr 2019 #185

Nope, just because a website has not been updated doesn't save you from being wrong. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #209

Wrong again. Senate.gov is the source... and it's updated every day. ehrnst Apr 2019 #237

What "math" is it that you speak of? Specifics? Details? Any? I'm home for the day.... George II Apr 2019 #172

The math I've given you numerous times... you've had it for quite some time now. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #176

No you haven't, not even once. George II Apr 2019 #202

I've never seen this math. If you shared it once, you can easily share it again. ehrnst Apr 2019 #238

Compared to whom and on what basis. I know that's been claimed over and over again, but.... George II Apr 2019 #158

Read... ↑ InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #163

So, no specifics.....again. Thanks! George II Apr 2019 #165

Read what? Someone's wishful thinking? ehrnst Apr 2019 #167

Numbers? Math? Who needs those? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #224

That has already been disproven several times, and nothing specific has ever been put forth... George II Apr 2019 #156

You must enjoy being wrong... it's simple math, look it up!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #159

So it's just wishful thinking, and not based in fact. ehrnst Apr 2019 #170

I've given you the numbers... you have them and you know what I'm saying is true. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #173

Then where are the numbers? You can't seem to provide them here, that's for sure. ehrnst Apr 2019 #183

It's not bashing Democrats, but a tribute to Bernie's Democratic-ness, that he votes InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #204

Still evading backing your up your claims with actual numbers... ehrnst Apr 2019 #205

No, I know the numbers, cuz I've given them to you before... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #207

You can type any numbers you like that are in your head... ehrnst Apr 2019 #239

LMFAO!! Do you EVER get tired of changing the subject to try to prove you're right?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #240

Just repeating and repeating and repeating with nothing to back it up. ehrnst Apr 2019 #247

Prove it mcar Apr 2019 #212

I have... you can too! It' s a 15-second Google search! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #217

So why don't you do it, then show us. ehrnst Apr 2019 #249

I have proven it many times, maybe not to you... cant remember if you've been involved InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #241

Then it should be easy enough to post the link here mcar Apr 2019 #242

Links, please. ehrnst Apr 2019 #274

Tell you what, once I'm wrong I'll let you know how it feels. Until then, you've never provided... George II Apr 2019 #203

Amen. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #206

Gave you all the numbers during a prior election that cannot and will not be mentioned... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #208

No you didn't, but whatever. You're basing Sanders' "standing" with Democrats in the Senate.... George II Apr 2019 #210

Okay, at least you're admitting I was right... that's progress. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #219

"Okay, at least you're admitting I was right"...no I'm not. I'm shocked you read that in my post... George II Apr 2019 #222

Your own rankings prove my point... pretending otherwise doesn't change that. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #228

. George II Apr 2019 #229

What statistics you previously gave us? ehrnst Apr 2019 #251

That made no sense whatsoever. ehrnst Apr 2019 #279

The truth hurts, I know... ouch, that's gotta Bern!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #282

Oh, Honey... ehrnst Apr 2019 #283

The truth musta left a "third-degree Bern"... can see where that would hurt. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #290

Nailed, didn't I? ehrnst Apr 2019 #291

I think you're embarassed about your previous posts. ehrnst Apr 2019 #273

FACTS! DATA! ehrnst Apr 2019 #297

Why does that stop you from providing those numbers you claim exist? ehrnst Apr 2019 #250

i LOokEd iT uP lapucelle Apr 2019 #324

"I've always been a DEMOCRAT"... so there you have it!! And Bernie is a Democrat NOW!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #327

"I am an Independent. I've always been a Democrat" (September 2017) lapucelle Apr 2019 #331

"I am a member of the Democratic Party" - Bernie... that's all I really need to know. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #335

How sad. lapucelle Apr 2019 #338

Um... read that again, Hon. ehrnst Apr 2019 #334

"I am a member of the Democratic Party" - Bernie... you might want to read THAT! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #336

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt... ehrnst Apr 2019 #337

Sanders: "I don't consider myself a Democrat" ehrnst Apr 2019 #339

So you're using an article all the way back from 2017 to confirm your position on what Bernie is now ehrnst Apr 2019 #351

Nope, using updated information from April 2019 that Bernie is a member of the Democratic party. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #352

Nope. I guess you didn't read the post you responded to... he said that in 2017 ehrnst Apr 2019 #353

Nope, read it. Mere quoting what the poster said - accurately BTW - which agreed with my point InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #354

That call to Bernie's office didn't go well? Or are you still scared to prove "you're right?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #355

No he's not. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #243

LOL..oooops, you cited the same 80% statistic that I did, which is more often than most Democrats InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #244

You haven't provided any statistics that support your claim about other ehrnst Apr 2019 #253

It doesn't make logical sense cuz I never said that!! Good try again tho!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #256

Yet another tactic... deny you ever made up what you made up! ehrnst Apr 2019 #257

Do you even read what you write?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #258

And now we have "I know you are but what am I?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #259

Clever! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #261

Still waiting for that "evidence" you claim you have "posted many times" ehrnst Apr 2019 #262

Not at all... the truth speaks for itself. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #263

Still no truth based backup for those claims? Still no voting records? ehrnst Apr 2019 #264

Truth?! From the guy that makes up quotes?! Okay, THAT was funny!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #266

Projection? ehrnst Apr 2019 #267

Have you heard some news the rest of us haven't? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #138

No... you've heard the news too. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #160

No, I haven't. Please provide a source that he is now a Democrat, like you say. ehrnst Apr 2019 #162

I've provided you the source numerous times in countless other threads. Pretending you don't know InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #169

Actually, no, you haven't. And Senate.gov shows you're wrong... ehrnst Apr 2019 #171

Senate.gov hasn't "heard the news" He's listed as Independent... ehrnst Apr 2019 #186

You never actually show that anyone is wrong about this. ehrnst Apr 2019 #168

Nope... voting records are readily available. I've gven you Bernie's in the past, so you know InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #230

I don't think you even know how to find those records, so I don't think you know ehrnst Apr 2019 #234

Nope, you haven't. If you have, you would be "only too happy" to share it right now. But you can't. ehrnst Apr 2019 #236

BS is no Democrat. we can do it Apr 2019 #87

You should let the DNC know... they'll need to get Bernie off the ballot and the debate stage. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #260

You should let the Senate know that they are "wrong" about Bernie being an Independent.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #265

Don't tell me... tell the DNC and have them remove Bernie from the ballot and debate stage. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #268

Have you contacted the Senate to tell them they're wrong about him being an Independent? ehrnst Apr 2019 #269

No, as I'm not bothered in the least by an out-of-date website listing. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #272

Updated daily when Senate is in session. But splain us this, bLue... ehrnst Apr 2019 #275

Everyone makes mistakes... you of all people should know that given all the ones you've made lately. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #277

So you admit you haven't provided the evidence you claim,? ehrnst Apr 2019 #278

No, not saying that at all. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #280

Sounded like you admitted mistakes. Unless you don't include yourself in "everyone?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #281

LOL, I don't mind admitting to mistakes at all... when I'm wrong. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #329

Doubling down again... ehrnst Apr 2019 #333

Precisely billpolonsky Apr 2019 #24

Why is the shit does the point you're trying to make matter. Blue_true Apr 2019 #41

Who is this large number you are referring to and where do you get your facts from. Every Sanders vsrazdem Apr 2019 #46

Like I said... SergeStorms Apr 2019 #69

Are you going to vote for Trump? sweetloukillbot Apr 2019 #76

Same goes for all those Hillary supporters who voted for McCain... I agree. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #330

It's an overlapping but different set of Venn diagram circles. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #25

ty Go Vols Apr 2019 #66

That would be my first question. Kentonio Apr 2019 #11

10% of Bernie supporters... SergeStorms Apr 2019 #16

I understand that, and 13% of Hillary suporters voted for McCain. That always happens. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #35

around 30% total of Hillary 2008 primary voters did not vote for Obama in the general Celerity Apr 2019 #45

ZIIIIIIINNNNGG!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #53

It is nothing I am happy about, and tbf, other than DU Sanders supporters Celerity Apr 2019 #60

I think you have a good grasp of the political reality at play that's both accurate and fair. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #63

seeing that the reality atm is so UTTERLY fucked up, I guess having a grasp on that makes me... Celerity Apr 2019 #65

hahaha, yes!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #67

.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #271

But Trump is no McCain. Apples & oranges. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #110

beloved is a huge stretch, he was a right wing neocon ultra hawk Celerity Apr 2019 #124

The rethugs were pretending to be Hillary supporters. Remember Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #118

Lets do a drill down Celerity Apr 2019 #166

The GOP really worked this...thinking they would destroy the eventual nominee...I moved that year Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #190

Facts.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #191

I would bet that most of those "Hillary" voters were in open primary states and.... George II Apr 2019 #246

Already adressed that above in great detail Celerity Apr 2019 #248

And how many of Sanders 2016 voters did not vote for Hillary? namahage Apr 2019 #326

those stats are for his CURRENT supporters, which is going to be a big issue in 2020, unfortunately Celerity Apr 2019 #343

Thank you for this in depth artislife Apr 2019 #344

The 2020 underlying fundamentals buttressing the Sanders supporters demographics Celerity Apr 2019 #345

I think the voters this time around artislife Apr 2019 #346

the problem is many of theses are new voters, or voters with no institutional ties or hard linkages Celerity Apr 2019 #347

When I talked to artislife Apr 2019 #348

I genuinely don't understand that. Kentonio Apr 2019 #74

I think that a politician's response, or lack of response, to supporters' actions in their support ehrnst Apr 2019 #193

GOOD QUESTION!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #132

I would like to know the demographics of that poll. It doesn't smell right to me. Every Autumn Apr 2019 #43

You're both in the 3/4 who are Hortensis Apr 2019 #221

So What Else Is New? Me. Apr 2019 #8

They " have no trouble with burning the village in order to save it" MH1 Apr 2019 #12

Forbes. Friend to progressives everywhere. shanny Apr 2019 #13

Do you discard the data just because it is from Forbes? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #50

Funny how his supporters are quick to take us for granted, but Amimnoch Apr 2019 #15

I guess those if us not supporting Senator Sanders KitSileya Apr 2019 #20

Yes. We need to realize THEY'RE NOT OUR VOTERS. If Sanders Hortensis Apr 2019 #36

To sum it up, "if he wins you'd better support him, but if he doesn't we can look elsewhere." George II Apr 2019 #22

Agree, we had better vote for whoever wins the primary or we are in deep shit. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #47

Which is why the regular "pledge to support BS if he gets the nom" OPs mcar Apr 2019 #213

That's implicit to remain a member of this site. To have to keep asking that.... George II Apr 2019 #214

It is a feature and not a bug BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #51

+1. The base is the people that can be counted on treestar Apr 2019 #75

Yes. Base is most reliable, not most extreme. Hortensis Apr 2019 #218

This makes no sense. We should all vote blue, no matter who... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Apr 2019 #284

Why promote divisiveness indeed! ehrnst Apr 2019 #294

Voting blue, no matter who is the point... the poster correctly expects to count on InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #299

Here is the example of a divisive post, in case you missed it. ehrnst Apr 2019 #304

As expected. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #305

Yes, again, I have the facts to back up my claims. ehrnst Apr 2019 #306

Yes, an outdated website... have you called the DNC yet to inform them InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #307

And we have the double down - again! ehrnst Apr 2019 #310

So, I take it you haven't called the DNC yet and informed them Bernie is not a Democrat... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #313

And we have the red herring along with the Double down! ehrnst Apr 2019 #316

Yeah, didn't think so. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #318

And now we have "I know you are but what am I?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #319

Guess that musta Berned... can't just accept the fact Bernie is a Democrat?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #328

"Musta Berned....." The "we all need to be positive!" mask falls away... ehrnst Apr 2019 #332

The truth hurts, exactly! Whats it about the clear statement "I am a member of the Democratic Party" InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #340

What's it about the clear statement "I don't consider myself a Democrat" are you calling a falshood? ehrnst Apr 2019 #350

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Apr 2019 #303

I think that means Sanders is drawing considerable support from Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #17

The % that would vote for Trump over Warren are either bitter dead enders or idiots Trenzalore Apr 2019 #18

No, it means possibly that Sanders supporters may not want a Democrat to win... George II Apr 2019 #19

That is a possibility. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #21

We can evaluate based on Hortensis Apr 2019 #223

Ding! Ding! Ding!... We hava winner!!! Pick ANY PRIZE from the top row!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #102

.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #293

... ehrnst Apr 2019 #295

Republicans want him as the nominee for a reason. We are being played. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #119

I wish I could say I'm surprised NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #23

So, they would rather vote for a psychopath . . . peggysue2 Apr 2019 #26

Yes it does... reminds me of the 2008 general election! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #117

The one where Obama won 365 electoral votes in a landslide? BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #147

You're interrupting BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #225

Seems to me, Susan Sarandon threatened to leave . . . peggysue2 Apr 2019 #181

....... ehrnst Apr 2019 #285

There is a certain segment of the population that wants to burn it all down Renew Deal Apr 2019 #27

I expected nothing less radical noodle Apr 2019 #28

I would argue that his hiring of David Sirota, Nina Turner, and Briahna Joy Gray is actually still_one Apr 2019 #30

"Bern it down" is apparently alive and well LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #31

This should why I hoped he would not run. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #125

And it's why I wrote the DNC chair to refuse his candidacy LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #127

From the article: (Not worrying at all) floppyboo Apr 2019 #32

In a normal cycle BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #38

That is true. Unfortunately the largest chunk of voters are independents. Who knows what vsrazdem Apr 2019 #48

No they are not nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #49

Yes, they are. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #112

They all "lean" -- doesn't matter how they identify themselves. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #116

Yes, and you cannot be sure which way they will lean. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #123

The leaning is very consistent BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #128

First of all, I am responding to the statement I made that the largest voting block vsrazdem Apr 2019 #130

No, we generally know what most of them will do. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #97

It's an EXCELLENT sign for Bernie... all the more reason to believe he will wipe the floor InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #99

"Only 42% who voted for Bernie in the 2016 Primary selected him as their top choice in the 2020" ehrnst Apr 2019 #139

INCREDIBLE sign... with 20 candidates running this time?! Abso-fuckin'-lutely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #141

42% of those "who voted for him" - not of all voters this time around. ehrnst Apr 2019 #145

Yes, because they have another choice they prefer... and when those alternative candidates drop out InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #153

Because you say so? ehrnst Apr 2019 #270

C'mon man BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #151

Of course you're not worried; you're a JPR from Canada. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #129

"Only 42% who voted for Bernie in the 2016 Primary selected him as their top choice in the 2020" ehrnst Apr 2019 #140

It's patently clear that many of Bernie's supporters don't care about his positions or goals. LonePirate Apr 2019 #33

What does this say? Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #34

That's the point that many seem to be missing. He *adds* votes that other Dems may not get. JudyM Apr 2019 #70

Everyone gets your point... they're just afraid to admit it! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #135

You won't get any arguments from me on your last sentence. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #152

It happens to be the case with a lot of other candidates too Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #194

Supporters motivated by anger and retribution BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #37

"I want a woman, just not that woman" mcar Apr 2019 #39

Or that woman (Warren)... SidDithers Apr 2019 #68

LOVE, LOVE, LOVE that woman (Warren)... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #101

Or any woman. It's fairly apparent. we can do it Apr 2019 #95

I want a leader who will Unify.. Cha Apr 2019 #40

Me too. we can do it Apr 2019 #93

And, that wouldn't be Cha Apr 2019 #200

Then Bernie's your man... he'll unify not just Democrats, but the entire country!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #142

+1000000 BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #154

So, you're saying Biden should stay out of the race?! Agreed!! Bernie, with his progressive policies InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #308

"If Democrats don't nominate our guy, then we'll vote for Trump to punish Democrats" dalton99a Apr 2019 #42

That sounds fsmiliar...Deja vue? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #113

The poll appears to have a sample size of 914. I am hard pressed to find those troubling trends in CentralMass Apr 2019 #56

I could so easily get a, One of your posts has been removed for breaking a forum rule ! stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #57

Sanders is dead to me and some of his supporters need their head examined. OrlandoDem2 Apr 2019 #58

"Vote Blue no matter who"... so true!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #89

Please...as if most of the people here would vote fort Bernie.... Stellar Apr 2019 #59

Oh FFS, knock it the fuck off already Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #61

Oh, please! Nobody here is bashing Bernie. Nobody is bashing his supporters... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #81

The Bernie bashing NEVER ends. You could've walked over hot coals to vote for the Democratic nominee InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #105

What these people don't see Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #122

I hear ya... SO fuckin' true!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #126

Wow. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #227

And the threats start coming again LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #120

Its fairly simple:Bernie supporters are, in part, swing voters. aikoaiko Apr 2019 #62

2008 comes immediately to mind... how quickly people forget!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #64

It's hard to forget all the Jill Stein voters that are part of BS's team ... SFnomad Apr 2019 #72

This is sickening and disheartening-convinces me that Bernie must have voted for Stein too. Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #83

The word on the street was BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #226

There is no basis in fact artislife Apr 2019 #341

Bernie fans continue to refer to 2008 PRE-election day polling... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #78

Imagine Hillary being subjected to this new "Bernie Standard," should she decide she IS running InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #84

I think you have some things reversed there... ehrnst Apr 2019 #286

Why don't you remind us? ehrnst Apr 2019 #292

I'm not at all surprised. That is EXACTLY what I'd expect. It's all very Sarandonesque... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #79

++++, it is definitely not progressive. We are not fooled. nt R B Garr Apr 2019 #245

Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #82

Same BS we can do it Apr 2019 #85

The greatest political party in the history of the world will not be held hostage. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #86

It's a cult. MontanaMama Apr 2019 #104

Maybe Levi, or a facsimile thereof dalton99a Apr 2019 #149

That's very disturbing. It's more like results for a third party candidate. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #106

Not a Surprise... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #107

Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #108

Not surprised. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #121

The people who sit it out or vote for the opposition make me angry Politicub Apr 2019 #114

He is at the absolute bottom of my BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #133

What does it say about Bernie riverwalker Apr 2019 #134

It says Bernie is a true patriot who bravely wants to lead this country in a new direction. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #276

.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #289

"Only 42% who voted for Bernie in the 2016 Primary selected him as their top choice in the 2020" ehrnst Apr 2019 #136

Another reason not to support him.... Historic NY Apr 2019 #137

Bernie has attracted a cult of personality. His positions don't matter to a chunk of his followers. LonePirate Apr 2019 #155

+1. Their animosity toward Warren speaks volumes dalton99a Apr 2019 #161

"Animosity toward Warren"?!?! LMFAO!!! Most fellow Bernie supporters I know LOVE Elizabeth... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #179

Many were SHREDDING on twitter and FB the minute she endorsed HRC. ehrnst Apr 2019 #189

Bernie brings a wobbley political base to the Democratic Party. dubyadiprecession Apr 2019 #201

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Apr 2019 #233

Also, 29% report being Clinton 2016 primary voters. David__77 Apr 2019 #252

to me there are two types of his supporters qazplm135 Apr 2019 #254

seems like 2016 will repeat itself in 2020. riversedge Apr 2019 #255

the 26% are Republicans. In GE, they'll vote 🍊 over Burnie. robbedvoter Apr 2019 #296

You should be glad they don't visit DU artislife Apr 2019 #298

From my twitter feed Gothmog Apr 2019 #300

I don't trust Emerson's polling very much Jarqui Apr 2019 #301

Damn! calimary Apr 2019 #315

They have the same message RB TexLa Apr 2019 #325

When I see the number of replies to this thread it scares me captain queeg Apr 2019 #342

It's why I try to avoid posting at this site ZeroSomeBrains Apr 2019 #349

Don't worry. Democrats are strikingly united in Hortensis Apr 2019 #356