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Showing Original Post only (View all)New Studies Show Pundits Are Wrong About Russian Social-Media Involvement in US Politics [View all]
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2016 Election Content: The most glaring data point is how minimally Russian social-media activity pertained to the 2016 campaign. The New Knowledge report acknowledges that evaluating IRA content purely based on whether it definitively swung the election is too narrow a focus, as the explicitly political content was a small percentage. To be exact, just 11% of the total content attributed to the IRA and 33 percent of user engagement with it was related to the election. The IRAs posts were minimally about the candidates, with roughly 6% of tweets, 18% of Instagram posts, and 7% of Facebook posts having mentioned Trump or Clinton by name.
Scale: The researchers claim that the scale of [the Russian] operation was unprecedented, but they base that conclusion on dubious figures. They repeat the widespread claim that Russian posts reached 126 million people on Facebook, which is in fact a spin on Facebooks own guess. Our best estimate, Facebooks Colin Stretch testified to Congress in October 2017, is that approximately 126 million people may have been served one of these [IRA] stories at some time during the two year period between 2015 and 2017. According to Stretch, posts generated by suspected Russian accounts showing up in Facebooks News Feed amounted to approximately 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content".
Spending: Also hurting the case that the Russians reached a large number of Americans is that they spent such a microscopic amount of money to do it. Oxford puts the IRAs Facebook spending between 2015 and 2017 at just $73,711. As was previously known, about $46,000 was spent on Russian-linked Facebook ads before the 2016 election. That amounts to about 0.05 percent of the $81 million spent on Facebook ads by the Clinton and Trump campaigns combined. A recent disclosure by Google that Russian-linked accounts spent $4,700 on platforms in 2016 only underscores how minuscule that spending was. The researchers also claim that the IRAs manipulation of American political discourse had a budget that exceeded $25 million USD. But that number is based on a widely repeated error that mistakes the IRAs spending on US-related activities for its parent projects overall global budget, including domestic social-media activity in Russia.
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Based on all of this data, we can draw this picture of Russian social-media activity: It was mostly unrelated to the 2016 election; microscopic in reach, engagement, and spending; and juvenile or absurd in its content. This leads to the inescapable conclusion, as the New Knowledge study acknowledges, that the operations focus on elections was merely a small subset of its activity. They qualify that accurate narrative by saying it misses nuance and deserves more contextualization. Alternatively, perhaps it deserves some minimal reflection that a juvenile social-media operation with such a small focus on elections is being widely portrayed as a seismic threat that may well have decided the 2016 contest.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-elections-interference/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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New Studies Show Pundits Are Wrong About Russian Social-Media Involvement in US Politics [View all]
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
OP
Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein presidential campaigns
George II
Apr 2019
#28
Stories like that are often suppressed or dismissed. We deserve to know the truth.
NurseJackie
Apr 2019
#29
Well, maybe the "pundits" are wrong, but I'm sure Robert Mueller III is 100% correct.
George II
Apr 2019
#45
So? I'm sure at one time you were a new member. This one joined about 10 months prior....
George II
Apr 2019
#31
I'm more concerned about American Oligarchs like the Koch Brothers influencing our
jalan48
Apr 2019
#2
I'm sure the Koch Brothers prefer we focus on Russia which is what has been happening. This focus
jalan48
Apr 2019
#8
It would be nice but focusing on a bogeyman outside of our society is much easier than focusing
jalan48
Apr 2019
#14
Yep, and focusing on outside takes our attention off the inside. Imagine Rachel spending three hours
jalan48
Apr 2019
#32
You don't think we should focus on a "bogeyman" who has been documented to have...
George II
Apr 2019
#36
Mueller found that Russia helped Bernie Sanders and targeted Hillary Clinton.
stonecutter357
Apr 2019
#7
Do you see any statistics in the un-blacked version of Muller's Report that dispute
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#9
Just a reminder that the redacted portion of Mueller's report is ongoing criminal matters
Indygram
Apr 2019
#61
What "Pundits"? It mentions 2 that I see. Also, although those percentages might seem low...
PeeJ52
Apr 2019
#10
Are you aware of any studies, reports or investigations which dispute the findings
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#16
Indeed. THE CEO of NEW KNOWLEDGE was suspended for disseminating fake news by FACEBOOK
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#19
No one disputes Russian meddling in the 2016 election but nothing in Mueller's report
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#38
What precisely in Mueller's report disputes the findings or statistics in the OP?
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#40
Yeah, them and Democracy Now! seem to be forming an alliance with Glenn Greenwald...
PeeJ52
Apr 2019
#20
Gee lookie what comes up from cited "NEW KNOWLEGE" who participated in these studies!
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#17
Exactly.. Your research promoter fraudulently tried to press a pedophile into office.
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#33
So what is your rebuttal to University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project?
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#53
I'd say the issue is very difficult to study and though they have made attempt, their methodology
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#55
Taking a single unvalidated study of questionable methods as Gospel while ignoring Mueller/FBI
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#68
Nothing in the OP contradicts the Mueller Report (at least what is visible) nor FBI/CIA findings.
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#70
If you can't find my last post to you sequentially numbered then I think I'm not able to assist you
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#73
No one is ignoring the Mueller Report, CIA or FBI investigations, and you can't present
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#74
so they were working for Doug Jones against Roy Moore and trying to copy Russian Rethug models
Celerity
Apr 2019
#79
background on it, a large Democratic donor funded the company, but apparently knew nothing that they
Celerity
Apr 2019
#82
Does this analysis look at the US as a whole or does it analyze specific swing districts
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#42
Thank you. And the answer is they didn't focus on the swing states, and they included data
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#56
We know that in at least one of those states, the tallies didn't match up to the ballots
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#75
So what is your rebuttal to University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#66
Thank you. I didn't know that but I'd noticed the odd bias toward Russia long ago. n/t
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#76
"Putinistas?" so everyone that doesn't follow along with the 21st century version of a red scare
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#69
I still wonder if the anti Wasserman-Schultz anointing of Hillary theme was amplified by Russia?
Freethinker65
Apr 2019
#78