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In reply to the discussion: New Studies Show Pundits Are Wrong About Russian Social-Media Involvement in US Politics [View all]Uncle Joe
(64,769 posts)59. Here is a little more information regarding the swing states.
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Having lost the presidential election to a reality-TV host, the Democratic Party leadership is arguably the most incentivized to capitalize on the Russia panic. They continue to oblige. Like clockwork, former Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook seized on the new Senate studies to warn that Russian operatives will try to divide Democrats again in the 2020 primary, making activists unwitting accomplices. By unwitting accomplices, Mook is presumably referring to the progressive Democrats who have protested the DNC leaderships collusion with the Clinton campaign and bias against Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary. Mook is following a now familiar Democratic playbook: blaming Russia for the consequences of the party elites own actions. When an uproar arose over Trump campaign data firm Cambridge Analytica in early 2018, Hillary Clinton was quoted posing what she dubbed the real question: How did the Russians know how to target their messages so precisely to undecided voters in Wisconsin, or Michigan, or Pennsylvania?
In fact, the Russians spent a grand total of $3,102 in these three states, with the majority of that paltry sum not even during the general election but during the primaries, and the majority of the ads were not even about candidates but about social issues. The total number of times ads were targeted at Wisconsin (54), Michigan (36), Pennsylvania (25) combined is less than the 152 times that ads were targeted at the blue state of New York. Wisconsin and Michigan also happen to be two states that Clinton infamously, and perilously, avoided visiting in the campaigns final months.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-elections-interference/
Could the candidate not appearing in the final months of two swing states during the general election have created an adverse headwind in regards to winning them?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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New Studies Show Pundits Are Wrong About Russian Social-Media Involvement in US Politics [View all]
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
OP
Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein presidential campaigns
George II
Apr 2019
#28
Stories like that are often suppressed or dismissed. We deserve to know the truth.
NurseJackie
Apr 2019
#29
Well, maybe the "pundits" are wrong, but I'm sure Robert Mueller III is 100% correct.
George II
Apr 2019
#45
So? I'm sure at one time you were a new member. This one joined about 10 months prior....
George II
Apr 2019
#31
I'm more concerned about American Oligarchs like the Koch Brothers influencing our
jalan48
Apr 2019
#2
I'm sure the Koch Brothers prefer we focus on Russia which is what has been happening. This focus
jalan48
Apr 2019
#8
It would be nice but focusing on a bogeyman outside of our society is much easier than focusing
jalan48
Apr 2019
#14
Yep, and focusing on outside takes our attention off the inside. Imagine Rachel spending three hours
jalan48
Apr 2019
#32
You don't think we should focus on a "bogeyman" who has been documented to have...
George II
Apr 2019
#36
Mueller found that Russia helped Bernie Sanders and targeted Hillary Clinton.
stonecutter357
Apr 2019
#7
Do you see any statistics in the un-blacked version of Muller's Report that dispute
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#9
Just a reminder that the redacted portion of Mueller's report is ongoing criminal matters
Indygram
Apr 2019
#61
What "Pundits"? It mentions 2 that I see. Also, although those percentages might seem low...
PeeJ52
Apr 2019
#10
Are you aware of any studies, reports or investigations which dispute the findings
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#16
Indeed. THE CEO of NEW KNOWLEDGE was suspended for disseminating fake news by FACEBOOK
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#19
No one disputes Russian meddling in the 2016 election but nothing in Mueller's report
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#38
What precisely in Mueller's report disputes the findings or statistics in the OP?
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#40
Yeah, them and Democracy Now! seem to be forming an alliance with Glenn Greenwald...
PeeJ52
Apr 2019
#20
Gee lookie what comes up from cited "NEW KNOWLEGE" who participated in these studies!
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#17
Exactly.. Your research promoter fraudulently tried to press a pedophile into office.
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#33
So what is your rebuttal to University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project?
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#53
I'd say the issue is very difficult to study and though they have made attempt, their methodology
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#55
Taking a single unvalidated study of questionable methods as Gospel while ignoring Mueller/FBI
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#68
Nothing in the OP contradicts the Mueller Report (at least what is visible) nor FBI/CIA findings.
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#70
If you can't find my last post to you sequentially numbered then I think I'm not able to assist you
hlthe2b
Apr 2019
#73
No one is ignoring the Mueller Report, CIA or FBI investigations, and you can't present
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#74
so they were working for Doug Jones against Roy Moore and trying to copy Russian Rethug models
Celerity
Apr 2019
#79
background on it, a large Democratic donor funded the company, but apparently knew nothing that they
Celerity
Apr 2019
#82
Does this analysis look at the US as a whole or does it analyze specific swing districts
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#42
Thank you. And the answer is they didn't focus on the swing states, and they included data
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#56
We know that in at least one of those states, the tallies didn't match up to the ballots
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#75
So what is your rebuttal to University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#66
Thank you. I didn't know that but I'd noticed the odd bias toward Russia long ago. n/t
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#76
"Putinistas?" so everyone that doesn't follow along with the 21st century version of a red scare
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#69
I still wonder if the anti Wasserman-Schultz anointing of Hillary theme was amplified by Russia?
Freethinker65
Apr 2019
#78