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Uncle Joe

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74. No one is ignoring the Mueller Report, CIA or FBI investigations, and you can't present

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:15 PM

Apr 2019

one link that disputes the OP and study for which it's based on.

Of course the Mueller Report is heavily redacted except the parts that Barr wanted everyone to see.

Taking a single unvalidated study of questionable methods as Gospel while ignoring Mueller/FBI

and CIA findings. No way. Even Facebook has admitted internal findings in contrast to this study. They found that the Russsian efforts profoundly influenced the ultimate election in favor of Trump and peeling off votes in favor of Sanders from HRC. Trump refuses to believe the former. You apparently refuse to believe the latter.

The point of the OP was addressed as to how effective Russia's propaganda attempt was in determining the outcome of the G.E.

To my knowledge Mueller's Report hasn't addressed that aspect.

You just repeating your unsubstantiated points without an actual link doesn't serve your argument very well.

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New Studies Show Pundits Are Wrong About Russian Social-Media Involvement in US Politics [View all] Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP

The Nation endorsed Bernie Sanders Blinko Apr 2019 #1

The Nation is citing the studies from Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #3

If you like this spin, how about "Mueller obstructed his own investigation Hortensis Apr 2019 #22

How do you get "Mueller obstructed his own investigation?" Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #24

From "The Nation," of course. Some good stuff Hortensis Apr 2019 #27

Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein presidential campaigns George II Apr 2019 #28

Stories like that are often suppressed or dismissed. We deserve to know the truth. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #29

Well, maybe the "pundits" are wrong, but I'm sure Robert Mueller III is 100% correct. George II Apr 2019 #45

I am equally certain of that. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #50

There's also this: George II Apr 2019 #48

+1 nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #4

P.S. This is your first day here, welcome to D.U. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #5

Welcome to DU artislife Apr 2019 #25

So? I'm sure at one time you were a new member. This one joined about 10 months prior.... George II Apr 2019 #31

+++ sheshe2 Apr 2019 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #52

... SidDithers Apr 2019 #47

I'm more concerned about American Oligarchs like the Koch Brothers influencing our jalan48 Apr 2019 #2

It is best to be concerned about both. Big Blue Marble Apr 2019 #6

I'm sure the Koch Brothers prefer we focus on Russia which is what has been happening. This focus jalan48 Apr 2019 #8

We can do both. namahage Apr 2019 #13

It would be nice but focusing on a bogeyman outside of our society is much easier than focusing jalan48 Apr 2019 #14

It is our MO artislife Apr 2019 #26

Yep, and focusing on outside takes our attention off the inside. Imagine Rachel spending three hours jalan48 Apr 2019 #32

Woot woot artislife Apr 2019 #34

You don't think we should focus on a "bogeyman" who has been documented to have... George II Apr 2019 #36

Of course we should. However, the United States has interfered in other jalan48 Apr 2019 #39

Mueller found that Russia helped Bernie Sanders and targeted Hillary Clinton. stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #7

Do you see any statistics in the un-blacked version of Muller's Report that dispute Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #9

Just a reminder that the redacted portion of Mueller's report is ongoing criminal matters Indygram Apr 2019 #61

Which could be beneficial to Bernie, it was Barr that blacked it out. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #64

What "Pundits"? It mentions 2 that I see. Also, although those percentages might seem low... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #10

18% not 20 of Instagram and 7% of Facebook which brings us to content Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #15

This is from December 2018, before the Mueller report even came out... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #18

I have always believed the Russians targeted susceptible individuals rzemanfl Apr 2019 #11

I used to love and trust The Nation, especially Katrina vanden Heuvel hlthe2b Apr 2019 #12

Are you aware of any studies, reports or investigations which dispute the findings Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #16

Indeed. THE CEO of NEW KNOWLEDGE was suspended for disseminating fake news by FACEBOOK hlthe2b Apr 2019 #19

That doesn't answer my question and I responded to your post# 17 Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #23

You ignore evidence of fraud from a key contributor. Do YOUR OWN research. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #30

No one disputes Russian meddling in the 2016 election but nothing in Mueller's report Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #38

My guess would be... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #37

What precisely in Mueller's report disputes the findings or statistics in the OP? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #40

Yeah, them and Democracy Now! seem to be forming an alliance with Glenn Greenwald... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #20

Well said Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #41

This is why I stopped subscribing murielm99 Apr 2019 #43

+1 nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #57

Gee lookie what comes up from cited "NEW KNOWLEGE" who participated in these studies! hlthe2b Apr 2019 #17

This was from the election in Alabama in 2017 and Morgan states Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #21

Exactly.. Your research promoter fraudulently tried to press a pedophile into office. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #33

Does that not sound like to you that old excuse on "To Catch A Predator"? namahage Apr 2019 #44

So what is your rebuttal to University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #53

I'd say the issue is very difficult to study and though they have made attempt, their methodology hlthe2b Apr 2019 #55

It is the most valid study to date, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #65

Taking a single unvalidated study of questionable methods as Gospel while ignoring Mueller/FBI hlthe2b Apr 2019 #68

Nothing in the OP contradicts the Mueller Report (at least what is visible) nor FBI/CIA findings. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #70

Again, you refuse to accept the findings. See my last post. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #71

Present a link please. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #72

If you can't find my last post to you sequentially numbered then I think I'm not able to assist you hlthe2b Apr 2019 #73

No one is ignoring the Mueller Report, CIA or FBI investigations, and you can't present Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #74

so they were working for Doug Jones against Roy Moore and trying to copy Russian Rethug models Celerity Apr 2019 #79

Your last proposition is my belief. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Apr 2019 #81

background on it, a large Democratic donor funded the company, but apparently knew nothing that they Celerity Apr 2019 #82

Does this analysis look at the US as a whole or does it analyze specific swing districts pnwmom Apr 2019 #42

Here is the full report. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #54

Thank you. And the answer is they didn't focus on the swing states, and they included data pnwmom Apr 2019 #56

Here is a little more information regarding the swing states. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #59

We know that in at least one of those states, the tallies didn't match up to the ballots pnwmom Apr 2019 #75

I will be the first to agree that our voting systems need major overhaul. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #77

One turd in 17,000 gallons of water, is still, a turd in the pool... Mersky Apr 2019 #46

Hmm ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #49

k&r nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #58

Balogna. Triloon Apr 2019 #51

Gosh, I read all the way through.. stillcool Apr 2019 #60

Err... the cost to conversion ratio is why FB is worth $500 Bn Recursion Apr 2019 #62

The Nation's publisher is rusty fender Apr 2019 #63

So what is your rebuttal to University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #66

Thank you. I didn't know that but I'd noticed the odd bias toward Russia long ago. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #76

You betcha! rusty fender Apr 2019 #83

Russia/Putin ratfucked us to death in 2016 rusty fender Apr 2019 #67

"Putinistas?" so everyone that doesn't follow along with the 21st century version of a red scare Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #69

I still wonder if the anti Wasserman-Schultz anointing of Hillary theme was amplified by Russia? Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #78