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panfluteman

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69. I Think We Need New Ground Rules for Political Campaigning in the Era of Trump - Russia

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:53 AM

Apr 2019

With the main ground rule being no needless attacks and mudslinging among Democratic candidates opposing Trump. These will only be amplified by Russian trolls and bots, whose main job is to sow division and chaos among those who are wanting to run against Trump. Democratic candidates should focus only on the positive, the substantial, and above all, only on the issues. What are the advantages and virtues of your own position on the issues, and how do you see it as being superior to what else is out there? Hold yourself up, and don't waste your time putting other candidates down. Please remember that we are Americans first, and that there is a hostile foreign power out there who is wanting to sow chaos, hatred and division among us. E pluribus unum!

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Nate Silver: Sanders surrogates' attacks on Pete Buttigieg are "extremely weird" [View all] highplainsdem Apr 2019 OP

Ro Khanna Needs to retract his remarks crazytown Apr 2019 #1

It isn't just Ro Khanna. It's Nina Turner and James Zogby, too. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #6

Oh right ... the crew crazytown Apr 2019 #9

No. Jarqui Apr 2019 #30

The Young Turks sent people digging for dirt at South Bend crazytown Apr 2019 #35

vetting is part of journalism's job. nt floppyboo Apr 2019 #127

He is taking voters from Sanders. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36

If he wasn't pulling many before ... he probably is pulling even more now n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #97

That's also what I see. Corgigal Apr 2019 #107

The fact that Nina Turner is taken remotely seriously.... RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #43

She's the co-chair of his campaign along with Khanna. This after she boasted about voting for Stein! George II Apr 2019 #50

Calling Turner a Bimbo Would be An Upgrade! I See Panic Setting In Among the 78-Year Old Crowd! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #57

Turner was a big turnoff in 2016. Lonestarblue Apr 2019 #61

I hate to say it.... RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #66

Shows poor judgment nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #62

"Senator" Nina Turner, Senior Fellow at the Sanders Institute! lapucelle Apr 2019 #89

They are not people of honor DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #104

Both ran last time as outsiders and a horrible percentage of Bernie Bros didn't vote for HRC. lark Apr 2019 #133

you are right still_one Apr 2019 #22

bernie boys Larrybanal Apr 2019 #77

Really strange.. BS surrogates attacking Cha Apr 2019 #2

Why is it always Sanders supporters who are attacking their 20202 Democratic rivals? lark Apr 2019 #3

They haven't learned Cha Apr 2019 #4

But they are genuinely concerned crazytown Apr 2019 #7

What ever!:) True Blue American Apr 2019 #34

There aren't that many rivals. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #16

Because.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #27

the gentrification, and awarding of contracts to donators is also being discussed floppyboo Apr 2019 #128

It is what they do. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #37

Will Bernie run again in 20202? lostnfound Apr 2019 #59

Yes mcar Apr 2019 #81

I've recognized that in the past - most of the other candidates' staffs.... George II Apr 2019 #85

Another reason not to support Sanders, he hired Manaforts' partner in Ukraine. lark Apr 2019 #102

Intolerance and spiteful indignation that anyone could possibly not support Sanders tymorial Apr 2019 #91

Personal attacks suck. floppyboo Apr 2019 #131

This! It is glaringly from one camp. R B Garr Apr 2019 #137

Weird? Not at all when you consider why: BS is losing support to PB so here come the knives. LonePirate Apr 2019 #5

I really like Pete. But yeah, It is intellectually dishonest to compare Bernie to Trump. Autumn Apr 2019 #8

on the subject of intellectual dishonesty dsc Apr 2019 #12

Clip? There is no video clip. The OP has tweets. Your post to me reeks of intellectual dishonesty. Autumn Apr 2019 #26

Post 2 and post 6 in this thread dsc Apr 2019 #32

Watched it. True Blue American Apr 2019 #39

I responded to a tweet which was in the first link in the OP. If there is a clip the OP should Autumn Apr 2019 #49

Except that Buttigieg didn't do that. He clearly compared Sanders' followers to Trump's LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #19

As I said, I like Pete. If he want's to compare me to Trump supporters that his perogitive. Autumn Apr 2019 #29

If Sanders supporters dislike being compared to Trump supporters, perhaps they should LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #46

All Sanders supporters are not the same, nor do they behave the same. Autumn Apr 2019 #54

What about the senior campaign staffers he's hired who have slammed the Democratic Party? ehrnst Apr 2019 #75

The people doing this are top-level in Sanders campaign. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #79

There is no way capitalism will ever be overthrown even if some want it. Most of us Autumn Apr 2019 #90

Ro Khanna isn't just some "Bernie supporter" - he's the campaign co-chairman... George II Apr 2019 #87

I'll take your lack of response as a "No comment at this time." ehrnst Apr 2019 #123

Exactly! And well said... BigOleDummy Apr 2019 #88

Here's the thing, Autumn True Dough Apr 2019 #20

Exactly, True Dough. Some are Cha Apr 2019 #33

Actually, this is what Pete said: ehrnst Apr 2019 #82

Here's the thing, True Dough. I responded to the OP and clicked on this link. Autumn Apr 2019 #52

In truth radical noodle Apr 2019 #76

There are videos in the OP showing exactly what Buttigieg said. Looks like they were added.... George II Apr 2019 #106

Thanks for the clarification True Dough Apr 2019 #108

Yes his credibility is thin now. As is the credibility of those who focus and flog the supporters Autumn Apr 2019 #114

Further to that... True Dough Apr 2019 #116

+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #60

Exactly. But Bernie can handle it. He's the one candidate on the move to reach the most voters, ancianita Apr 2019 #83

there is much to compare Larrybanal Apr 2019 #84

"many of his supporters are petulant spoilers "? Autumn Apr 2019 #94

Well, except the ones who are Stein supporters ... SFnomad Apr 2019 #98

I really don't give a damn that some people who supported Bernie in 2016 voted for Stein. Autumn Apr 2019 #101

These aren't just "some people", those are their CURRENT titles under BS SFnomad Apr 2019 #109

I'm not responsible for who any politicians will use or who they surrounds themselves with. Autumn Apr 2019 #112

I guess I have higher standards then ... BS's current team helped the Democrats lose to tRump SFnomad Apr 2019 #113

I see how high your standards are. Good luck. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #115

Said politicians are responsible for who they hire & what those people say. If said politicians... Hekate Apr 2019 #117

Like I said, I despised Brock for what he did to the President. But I don't lose sleep over Autumn Apr 2019 #119

Is comparing how they both represent shaking things up disingenuous? Chemisse Apr 2019 #95

No it isn't disingenuous. Our country and our system needs a shake up. In 08 there were Autumn Apr 2019 #99

Fair enough. You make valid points. n/t Chemisse Apr 2019 #124

As always, great points Autumn Celerity Apr 2019 #125

Many Sanders Supporters (not all, but some) Have No Loyalty to the Democratic Party louis c Apr 2019 #10

+1. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #21

THIS RIGHT HERE... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #31

And, BS' staff hires who voted 3rd party Cha Apr 2019 #38

Some on his senior campaign staff have been downright hostile to the Democratic Party. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #41

True, because their not all democrats. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #53

That's true! David__77 Apr 2019 #70

Is there a list of candidates and their surrogates? Dorn Apr 2019 #11

I'm largely clueless on that front as well True Dough Apr 2019 #23

Turner is a Sanders co-chair. Zogby is a Sanders adviser and on the Our Revolution highplainsdem Apr 2019 #28

David Sirota, Nina Turner, Jeff Weaver, and Briahna Joy Gray are certainly on that list. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #44

THis is why the "rapid response" team for any candidate BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #13

That kind of "everything that is not praise is a threat" response ehrnst Apr 2019 #55

Send in the Trolls. Never mind they're already here. Ford_Prefect Apr 2019 #14

....................................................................... still_one Apr 2019 #25

Often masquerading as supporters of other candidates BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #100

I was speaking to the frequency and intensity of bashing attacks on progressive candidates on DU. Ford_Prefect Apr 2019 #111

Perhaps Sanders' biggest weakness is his selection of people who speak on his behalf. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #15

I see a pattern in his selection, and in what they say. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #45

Of course. Attacks are how these "surrogates" roll. Hortensis Apr 2019 #18

+1! Cha Apr 2019 #48

+1 nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #132

Another Here We Go Again Moment Me. Apr 2019 #24

But unfortunately, not surprising. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #40

The bottom line is the Sanders campaign identifies Pete's campaign as MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #42

You're not alone. floppyboo Apr 2019 #129

True - our numbers will only get smaller MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #134

What I find very interesting is that the surrogates of only one candidate have been on a mission.... George II Apr 2019 #47

Oh yeah, I see this BS surrogate already starting Cha Apr 2019 #58

"Credentialed elitism"? Politicub Apr 2019 #51

and just another reason lillypaddle Apr 2019 #56

Of course they see the comparison. murielm99 Apr 2019 #63

It appears that the veritable gloves are coming off. nt littlemissmartypants Apr 2019 #64

Nothing weird about it BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #65

Lets hope things don't get too out of hand during the campaign season. nt yaesu Apr 2019 #67

That is weird. Looks like it's getting dirty. PatrickforO Apr 2019 #68

I Think We Need New Ground Rules for Political Campaigning in the Era of Trump - Russia panfluteman Apr 2019 #69

Look at this melman Apr 2019 #71

Yep. Even here people were like ohhhh burn! Good job Pete! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #92

Sometimes the truth hurts I guess BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #103

While I may not like the equation of Trump and Sanders voters... David__77 Apr 2019 #72

Well said MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #126

I'm so surprised... radical noodle Apr 2019 #73

PB is our newest Progressive hope. Too bad he doesn't have a voting record to back up his rhetoric. jalan48 Apr 2019 #74

True Believers like some of Bernie's staff are the most problematic. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #78

It's not "weird", this is just what Bernie's staffers *DO* Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #80

This is repugnant, dishonest and dishonorable tymorial Apr 2019 #86

Thanks to Nate. elleng Apr 2019 #93

The person who mentioned "rage-driven campaigns" is on to something... Hekate Apr 2019 #96

According to many on here The Mouth Apr 2019 #105

This post is symbollic of the reason I won't support Bernie in the primaries. GitRDun Apr 2019 #110

They are "extremely weird" NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #118

:) And employees are chosen for their attack-dog abilities. Hortensis Apr 2019 #135

Does anyone know that Buttigieg actually said? aikoaiko Apr 2019 #120

This: LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #121

Thanks. aikoaiko Apr 2019 #122

Does anyone have the number of registered Dem voters floppyboo Apr 2019 #130

Maybe they just wanted Cha Apr 2019 #136