Democratic Primaries

Mike Nelson

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5. They did not cheat or rig...

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:12 AM

Apr 2019

… The superdelegates were there... and, in the end, they made no difference. Hillary (like Obama, before her) understood and used the system in place. The open votes favored Hillary. The caucuses favored Bernie, but they were there and he used them - as he should.

Candidates are always trying to negotiate debates - when, where, how long, formats... who gets in any why. Some like it one way, some like it another... use your pull to get it the way you want. After it's decided, stop complaining and try to make the best impression with what you're given - that's my advice.

The real cheating... the real rigging... we know where that was...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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These Are the BS Supporters I'm Talking About [View all] louis c Apr 2019 OP

this was more typical than not as these voters hate america more than anything when they don't beachbum bob Apr 2019 #1

People at DU hate Bernie so much they would believe a conservative rag? Stellar Apr 2019 #62

What do you mean by more typical than not? Sounds to me like a broad statement that KPN Apr 2019 #81

Not sure the Washington Examiner is the best source namahage Apr 2019 #2

The Washington Examiner is a right wing rag. mountain grammy Apr 2019 #3

Please point to the parts of the article that are untruthful. louis c Apr 2019 #10

All of it if it's in the Examiner mountain grammy Apr 2019 #18

I didn't see that quote in the article... louis c Apr 2019 #29

They were other headlines in the right wing crap you chose mountain grammy Apr 2019 #35

Can we talk to the issues in this article? louis c Apr 2019 #36

The article doesn't bash any candidates. lapucelle Apr 2019 #41

I can't believe the Washington Examiner is being defended here.. mountain grammy Apr 2019 #45

The article does not mention any candidates. lapucelle Apr 2019 #48

Oh, I get it. KPN Apr 2019 #83

yep, its a tRumpster rag spreading fascist propaganda yaesu Apr 2019 #11

+1000 Power 2 the People Apr 2019 #28

Voting for Jill Stein in 2016 DID send a message. That message said: MineralMan Apr 2019 #4

THIS! radical noodle Apr 2019 #8

Yes leftofcool Apr 2019 #13

Yep. calimary Apr 2019 #32

It was more like BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #43

Yep LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #52

They did not cheat or rig... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #5

Really? fatrick Apr 2019 #61

Because Sanders and company whined like petulant children LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #63

More and more states are getting rid of caucuses because they actually disenfranchise people. Agschmid Apr 2019 #68

Why did we also change the requirement of pledging to run as a Democrat? namahage Apr 2019 #73

To avoid having all the toys being thrown out of the pram again. nt Codeine Apr 2019 #82

It's becoming clear radical noodle Apr 2019 #6

I personally know three people who voted for Jill Stein MineralMan Apr 2019 #7

What a fucked-up attitude that man has. Wow. MH1 Apr 2019 #9

K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #12

How contemptible of him. KitSileya Apr 2019 #14

Calling them deplorable was stupid and probably cost us an election Kentonio Apr 2019 #51

Who cares what this guy thinks... Dave in VA Apr 2019 #15

I've got hundreds of people to replace people like him... louis c Apr 2019 #17

This exactly! Dave in VA Apr 2019 #19

Absolutely this. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #44

This leftofcool Apr 2019 #59

"Nearly half of Sanders-Trump voters disagree with Hortensis Apr 2019 #16

Is this from the Washington Examiner too? mountain grammy Apr 2019 #20

Sorry, NPR, link below, but this study is quoted by many. Hortensis Apr 2019 #22

Hey, if the goal is to make Democrats mad at each other by rehashing 2016 mountain grammy Apr 2019 #33

This is about 2020. WHAT do we do about these people Hortensis Apr 2019 #38

oh yeah, ok, maybe that works for you.. mountain grammy Apr 2019 #39

Russia's use of Sanders voters was central to their strategy. Hortensis Apr 2019 #47

I have only one question mountain grammy Apr 2019 #69

Here's mine: Would you really vote for him in the primary Hortensis Apr 2019 #70

Because nothing's at stake in the general mountain grammy Apr 2019 #71

And you may spout NPR pieces and statistics all day long about Bernie supporters mountain grammy Apr 2019 #75

It's from Professor Schaffner's two studies on the 2016 election. lapucelle Apr 2019 #49

The Washington Examiner is a right wing rag left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #21

I agree! mountain grammy Apr 2019 #24

How about refuting on the merits? louis c Apr 2019 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author tritsofme Apr 2019 #23

The Washington Examiner? Really? Politicub Apr 2019 #25

Please argue on the merits. louis c Apr 2019 #27

There are no merits to be had from a site that peddles in right wing smears. Politicub Apr 2019 #30

Here you go. lapucelle Apr 2019 #53

No merits to argue G_j Apr 2019 #80

The merits are that a large proportion of BS supporters voted 3rd party, stayed home... louis c Apr 2019 #85

Unrec. for source. n/t demmiblue Apr 2019 #31

DU rules state ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #34

Maybe things have changed? They seem to have some really bad articles on Joe Biden. CentralMass Apr 2019 #37

Exactly! Wonder how the OP missed those.. mountain grammy Apr 2019 #42

Funny how Sanders appeared on Fox. louis c Apr 2019 #56

Bloomberg has a similar story. lapucelle Apr 2019 #60

I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking my OP was already alerted on... louis c Apr 2019 #40

That went out the window when Sanders' supporters started crowing about FOX LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #50

I've made numerous posts condemning fox news and stating my support CentralMass Apr 2019 #54

If it untruthful? louis c Apr 2019 #57

I believe that is untruthful and I can site the last elections stats as CentralMass Apr 2019 #65

... CentralMass Apr 2019 #55

It is the culmination of BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #46

The white privilege and stupidity are strong with those BS supporters. LonePirate Apr 2019 #58

The NPR polling is extremely significant. Thank you for bringing it up. Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #64

Remember, three of Sanders' top campaign staffers admitted openly.... George II Apr 2019 #66

The fucking insane logic would drive Spock to suicide. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #67

Bernie's greatest enemy... JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #72

You're correct. It's not Bernie, it's far too many of his supporters... louis c Apr 2019 #74

I agree with you. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #78

some have the same ignorance and apathy that the trumpers have samnsara Apr 2019 #76

It takes all kinds of people to make a political party. The Dems are the party of the people! walkingman Apr 2019 #77

We can't change 2016. But we can commit to voting for the democratic nominee. 33taw Apr 2019 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author mountain grammy Apr 2019 #84