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Democratic Primaries

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pnwmom

(110,316 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:35 PM Apr 2019

Four years ago, Jeb Bush was leading the polls -- out of 16 candidates. Trump polled at 1%. [View all]

Jeb Bush was clearly benefiting from name recognition, but that wasn't enough in the long run.

No one should think that the current Democratic front runners are guaranteed to remain the front runners. In politics a dark horse coming from behind isn't unusual, especially this early in the election season.

We will know more once we start having the first debates and primaries.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/jeb-bush-surges-lead-gop-pack-new-2016-poll

*** Jeb leads the GOP pack: A brand-new national NBC/WSJ poll finds Jeb Bush leading the crowded Republican presidential field, with 22% of GOP primary voters saying he’s their first choice. He’s followed by Scott Walker at 17%, Marco Rubio at 14%, and Ben Carson at 11%. While Jeb had a similar five-point lead in our April NBC/WSJ poll, you see his current position has strengthened when you look inside the numbers of this new poll. (It was conducted during the buildup and coverage of Bush’s official presidential announcement on June 16.) The latest survey shows him ahead among self-identified conservative GOP primary voters – when he was in third place in April behind Rubio and Walker. And as we unveiled on Sunday, 75% of Republican primary voters in our new poll say they could see themselves supporting Bush – up from 70% in April and 49% in March. Bottom line: While Jeb has plenty of potential problems to overcome (his last name, his positions on immigration and Common Core, his desire to run a general-election campaign instead of one aimed at GOP primary voters), this poll is very good news for him.

*** Who gets left off that first debate stage? The NBC/WSJ poll measured 16 GOP candidates in our horserace question. And here are the 10 Republicans who make our poll’s Top 10 – the criteria being used for the first GOP debate in August – and the six who get left off:

Jeb Bush 22%
Scott Walker 17%
Marco Rubio 14%
Ben Carson 11%
Mike Huckabee 9%
Rand Paul 7%
Rick Perry 5%
Ted Cruz 4%
Chris Christie 4%
Carly Fiorina 2%

Donald Trump 1%
Lindsey Graham 1%
John Kasich 1%
Bobby Jindal 0%
Rick Santorum 0%
George Pataki 0%

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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the media made trump the favorite with in months as he was given special treatment and free PR beachbum bob Apr 2019 #1
Eventually that happened. But it hadn't happened by the spring four years ago. pnwmom Apr 2019 #2
Joe is going to be the nominee . And that is a good thing. He will beat Trump. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #4
I recall trump getting free time on all the cable networks and that propelled him beachbum bob Apr 2019 #5
He was given lots of room to run, covered as an entertainer, readily accessible Justice Apr 2019 #9
Trump had a media strategy, the others did not. marylandblue Apr 2019 #13
You're using the Republicans as an example of how we will vote? LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #3
I'm using them to demonstrate the phenomenon of dark horse candidates, pnwmom Apr 2019 #6
And Hillary was the favorite to win in 2008. BlueStater Apr 2019 #7
There were only a handful of candidates who tried. That election was not like this one. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #8
I'm agreeing with you. BlueStater Apr 2019 #10
The mood seems to have shifted hurl Apr 2019 #12
+1 marylandblue Apr 2019 #14
GOP voters don't want government LuvLoogie Apr 2019 #11
You make a solid point. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #15
Not a fair comparison NYMinute Apr 2019 #16
Beto is one of the dark horses that could upend the primaries. It's way too early pnwmom Apr 2019 #18
#1, that would be Sanders -- yesterday. ucrdem Apr 2019 #17
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