Democratic Primaries

demmiblue

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17. Yes, Obama had a lower percentage in 2012, but...

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:48 PM

Apr 2019

he was also up against a native son.

2016 was just a weird election in Michigan... a one-off, as I recall Senator Peters saying. I don't think it was primarily because Hillary is a woman, though. There are a lot of factors that went into the loss of our state. However, look at what we achieved in 2018: Governor Whitmer, AG Nessel, Sen. Stabenow (that was a given, really), Associate Justice Cavanagh, etc.

All over the country, women, PoC, and LGBT candidates have made tremendous progress. I think we focus too much on those who will never vote for us (but I also believe we can get back a lot of the Obama/Trump crossovers).

That being said, I am going to wait it out to see what emerges regarding our candidates. Also, there is nothing wrong with backing Biden; he has a whole lot of positives.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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You have to think about electability [View all] demmiblue Apr 2019 OP

You have to think about winning even more. ancianita Apr 2019 #1

We are currently in no position to "Risk" anything Siwsan Apr 2019 #2

I personally don't think having a woman, PoC or LGBT candidate is a risk. demmiblue Apr 2019 #3

You don't and I don't. We have to worry about a whole lot more people, though Siwsan Apr 2019 #4

Did you feel that way about Clinton or Obama? demmiblue Apr 2019 #8

I readily admit that it was a bit of a worry in 2008. Siwsan Apr 2019 #10

Yes, Obama had a lower percentage in 2012, but... demmiblue Apr 2019 #17

Great "chatting" with you! Siwsan Apr 2019 #19

Have a wonderful rest of the day! demmiblue Apr 2019 #21

Neither do I JonLP24 Apr 2019 #7

I don't agree. You have to consider who can be elected. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #11

All of our candidates are electable. BlueStater Apr 2019 #5

It has been a little shocking to see some of the attitudes regarding our candidates. n/t demmiblue Apr 2019 #9

Wrong . Other years are different. But this year we need to rebuild the blue Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #12

How do you know? BlueStater Apr 2019 #14

I can look at the electoral map and see where we can win. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36

Vote for him when he wins the general. This is what counts. But I predict barring Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38

+100,000,000,000 mobeau69 Apr 2019 #28

All our candidates are electable, tRump is too but in a very bad way. He lied, committed crimes to yaesu Apr 2019 #6

He has a good shot at getting reelected if he holds PA... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #13

Even if it's not Biden Butterflylady Apr 2019 #15

Yes, thank you. BlueStater Apr 2019 #18

I don't think we can count on that without either Biden or Ryan on the ticket. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32

The WaPo article seems to be an attempt at sarcasm. nt IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2019 #16

I don't think Biden can survive negative press articles especially during a general election JonLP24 Apr 2019 #20

I don't think Sanders can win a general. The smears won't work. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #33

I'm afraid Alexandra Petri's satire is sailing right over some heads. Demit Apr 2019 #22

And I'm afraid you're right. demmiblue Apr 2019 #25

Seems like it. elleng Apr 2019 #27

Electablity is a key factor in this race Gothmog Apr 2019 #23

By Alexandra Petri elleng Apr 2019 #24

Satire, anyone??? elleng Apr 2019 #26

I don't think Biden is any more "electable" that the women Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #29

The women are not winning the primary, I wish it was different. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #35

Nobody's winning any primaries until January 2020 Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #41

You have to think Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #30

So many Democrats ignoring the reality of Putin. nt delisen Apr 2019 #31

Jimmy Carter is the most electable democrat eligible for 2020 Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #34

He'll only be 96 and he's technically eligible to run for another term. BlueStater Apr 2019 #37

Bernievsanders older than Biden. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39

Carter-Mondale 2020! Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #40