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Gothmog

(179,870 posts)
23. Electablity is a key factor in this race
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:04 PM
Apr 2019

We have to defeat trump. There is a very good chance that trump will win if we pick a weak or unsafe choice. There are posters who believe that we can nominate the most liberal/socialist nominee as possible and that candidate will easily win because everyone hates trump. It is their position that this is a historic opportunity to nominate someone would otherwise not be electable.

From Larry Sabato https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-economy-got-nixon-reagan-and-bush-reelected-it-could-do-it-for-trump-too/2019/04/23/b8920d34-65e6-11e9-a1b6-b29b90efa879_story.html?utm_term=.a35b315730d2

Ultimately, Trump may turn out to be at the mercy of conventional factors. In 2016, academic predictive models based on fundamentals such as the state of the economy suggested that Trump, or any other Republican candidate, was in position to win the election or come very close. This time, such models (once they become operative next year) could make Trump the early favorite despite his poor approval ratings.

Credit the powers of incumbency and a strong economy, the state of which may matter more to Trump’s odds than nearly anything else. Incumbency and the economy, among other matters, ended up being more than enough for Nixon, Reagan and Bush. Despite Trump’s unprecedented outlandishness, that same combination might work for him, too.

Most POTUS are re-elected if the economy is good. Here is a scary study that shows this


There are good reasons to doubt this study


I do not believe that trump is assured of winning. If we want to win, Democrats need to nominate a strong nominee who is NOT too far out of the mainstream
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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You have to think about winning even more. ancianita Apr 2019 #1
We are currently in no position to "Risk" anything Siwsan Apr 2019 #2
I personally don't think having a woman, PoC or LGBT candidate is a risk. demmiblue Apr 2019 #3
You don't and I don't. We have to worry about a whole lot more people, though Siwsan Apr 2019 #4
Did you feel that way about Clinton or Obama? demmiblue Apr 2019 #8
I readily admit that it was a bit of a worry in 2008. Siwsan Apr 2019 #10
Yes, Obama had a lower percentage in 2012, but... demmiblue Apr 2019 #17
Great "chatting" with you! Siwsan Apr 2019 #19
Have a wonderful rest of the day! demmiblue Apr 2019 #21
Neither do I JonLP24 Apr 2019 #7
I don't agree. You have to consider who can be elected. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #11
All of our candidates are electable. BlueStater Apr 2019 #5
It has been a little shocking to see some of the attitudes regarding our candidates. n/t demmiblue Apr 2019 #9
Wrong . Other years are different. But this year we need to rebuild the blue Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #12
How do you know? BlueStater Apr 2019 #14
I can look at the electoral map and see where we can win. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36
Vote for him when he wins the general. This is what counts. But I predict barring Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38
+100,000,000,000 mobeau69 Apr 2019 #28
All our candidates are electable, tRump is too but in a very bad way. He lied, committed crimes to yaesu Apr 2019 #6
He has a good shot at getting reelected if he holds PA... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #13
Even if it's not Biden Butterflylady Apr 2019 #15
Yes, thank you. BlueStater Apr 2019 #18
I don't think we can count on that without either Biden or Ryan on the ticket. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32
The WaPo article seems to be an attempt at sarcasm. nt IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2019 #16
I don't think Biden can survive negative press articles especially during a general election JonLP24 Apr 2019 #20
I don't think Sanders can win a general. The smears won't work. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #33
I'm afraid Alexandra Petri's satire is sailing right over some heads. Demit Apr 2019 #22
And I'm afraid you're right. demmiblue Apr 2019 #25
Seems like it. elleng Apr 2019 #27
Electablity is a key factor in this race Gothmog Apr 2019 #23
By Alexandra Petri elleng Apr 2019 #24
Satire, anyone??? elleng Apr 2019 #26
I don't think Biden is any more "electable" that the women Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #29
The women are not winning the primary, I wish it was different. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #35
Nobody's winning any primaries until January 2020 Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #41
You have to think Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #30
So many Democrats ignoring the reality of Putin. nt delisen Apr 2019 #31
Jimmy Carter is the most electable democrat eligible for 2020 Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #34
He'll only be 96 and he's technically eligible to run for another term. BlueStater Apr 2019 #37
Bernievsanders older than Biden. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39
Carter-Mondale 2020! Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #40
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