Democratic Primaries

Qutzupalotl

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15. Great list, but one quibble:

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:44 PM

Apr 2019

Regarding the raid on bin Laden, it is true Biden advised the president extensively. However, Biden felt the daring raid was too risky, and advised against it. My sense is that Biden objected to conducting the capture without notifying Pakistan. Obama suspected Pakistan of secretly and knowingly harboring bin Laden, and did not want to give them a heads up. This was a rare instance where Obama disagreed with his VP. The raid was indeed risky and could have ended in disaster, so I don’t fault Joe here. I only point this out to say that advising against the raid is not the same as killing bin Laden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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More Biden Baggage For The Debates -- Pick On THIS [View all] ancianita Apr 2019 OP

My my! That's a lot of baggage to cover..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #1

They'll probably lead with Anita Hill and Joe's "hypocrisy." But I've got a solution for that, too. ancianita Apr 2019 #2

"Grab em by the pussy" will be a great comeback from Joe in any debate about Trump.... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #3

Killer comeback! ancianita Apr 2019 #5

GREAT minds think alike..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #8

Yep. ancianita Apr 2019 #11

when I see media talking about Anita Hill I reply to them "trump raped his own wife" EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #4

Yet another! ancianita Apr 2019 #6

We should all be careful DownriverDem Apr 2019 #25

Contrast that to Sander's accomplishments of two post offices named and one Vet bill. olegramps Apr 2019 #36

That's been my talking point about Biden- He knows how to put our shattered government back together NBachers Apr 2019 #7

Yes! Now if we can spread our focus to getting Senate Democrats into the majority, yes? ancianita Apr 2019 #9

Another plus: I think Biden will have coat tails, and will campaign for other Democrats relentlessly NBachers Apr 2019 #13

Sure. I rather think they will campaign with HIM. I get your point, though. ancianita Apr 2019 #14

wow BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #10

Awww. Just helping the team out. ancianita Apr 2019 #12

Thank you emmaverybo Apr 2019 #16

Great list, but one quibble: Qutzupalotl Apr 2019 #15

Right on both counts. Do you think he learned from that event, how his decisions should err? ancianita Apr 2019 #17

Joe was very gracious Qutzupalotl Apr 2019 #21

Biden was probably flashing back on the Iran hostage rescue disaster. mn9driver Apr 2019 #22

His input was valuable as a point to be taken into concideration. Contrast that to Trump. olegramps Apr 2019 #40

Thanks for such an extensive list! CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #18

I hope we can get the corporate media to go along. jalan48 Apr 2019 #19

That's been the dance, hasn't it. It's Joe who dances by taking the lead and "guiding." We'll have ancianita Apr 2019 #23

Adding this, under Holder, but stopped... emmaverybo Apr 2019 #20

How do you think it will and/or should play out? ancianita Apr 2019 #24

Paranoid? Why did you feel the need to do this onit2day Apr 2019 #26

Why should I be paranoid? How does a set of facts or arguments for Biden's qualifications show that? ancianita Apr 2019 #28

At least your OP was a positive one about YOUR candidate, unlike some who post negative OPs and... George II Apr 2019 #33

Thank you, George! I just think we can't win by anything but earnest, honest discussion, nothing ancianita Apr 2019 #35

Wow, no idea where you saw paranoia. It was a fact filled post. Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #34

why do you feel the need to question this Skittles Apr 2019 #51

We aere on the fence before he announced msdogi Apr 2019 #27

Amazing list of accomplishments, thanks for putting that together. I don't bookmark much here.... George II Apr 2019 #29

Maybe someone here can do that? It's always good to be armed with past accomplishments. ancianita Apr 2019 #31

Great post. I've been listening to the talking heads too much today and was Vinca Apr 2019 #30

I have bookmarked this thread for future reference. PatrickforO Apr 2019 #32

And don't forget he brings with him Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #37

Dr. Biden is my idol. brandnewday2009 Apr 2019 #39

True that. ancianita Apr 2019 #41

Wow, she has a little in common with my mother. Doreen Apr 2019 #54

Marriage Equality brandnewday2009 Apr 2019 #38

Number 11 is most definitely NOT something for Biden to be proud of Persondem Apr 2019 #42

Me, too. It was the infamous Arne Duncan's pet piece of crap. Still, it had Obama's blessing. ancianita Apr 2019 #43

48. Introduced Legislation to address global warming in 1986 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #44

Can't throw that into the list. It didn't pass. Thanks, anyway. ancianita Apr 2019 #45

He also sponsored the Violence Against Women Act of 2000 and 2005. ancianita Apr 2019 #46

OMG, I just assumed that was on the list! LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #47

I can't find a record of this. Can you link it? The earliest pieces I see are from 1993. ancianita Apr 2019 #48

Global Climate Protection Act of 1986 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #49

The Atlantic says the bill didn't pass in 2015. But he's clearly been ahead of the curve on climate. ancianita Apr 2019 #50

No, but he introduced it. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #53

Not an accomplishment to add to the OP list, sorry. ancianita Apr 2019 #56

I disagree completely; he was one of the first to present the issue on the national stage LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #57

True! But since a bill isn't a law, nothing but a little awareness growth has come of it. Just sayin ancianita Apr 2019 #58

That looks like a list of what Obama did - not what Biden did. bloom Apr 2019 #52

By your logic, any laws the 112th -115th Congresses passed, Obama should not get equal credit for. ancianita Apr 2019 #55

They absolutely were saying Biden should get credit for Obama's accomplishments bloom Apr 2019 #59

"I just want people to keep it real." Do you, now. 1. SOME credit isn't ALL the credit, ancianita Apr 2019 #60

Biden's biggest + Prosper Apr 2019 #61