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marylandblue

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70. It was a major news event of the time, and it brought about a shift in attitudes

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 04:22 PM

Apr 2019

that reverberate to this day. Few people who lived through it have forgotten. I did not initially recall Biden's role in it myself, but now I do. I also don't care if he apologizes or not, because I am not the one who deserves an apology and I do think he would do it differently today. But there are women for whom it remains a sore spot who would see it differently.

I don't think this is fatal to him, but he does need to own his past, both the good and bad of it. There is a lot to look at and it will all come out. The problem of having too long a record has hurt other politicians. The things that maybe made sense back then no longer make sense and become hard to justify.

If he can't handle his past deftly, he can't win. This is an "electability" factor unique to Biden, because he has such a long and prominent record.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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About Anita Hill [View all] ancianita Apr 2019 OP

Anita is 62 years old and would be the first to say DURHAM D Apr 2019 #1

It's not really that big of an issue BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #2

Speaking of issues, is Joe going to forcefully stand up for net neutrality? mobeau69 Apr 2019 #8

I don't know, why don't you ask him? BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #9

You brought up the topic of issues so I thought you'd know. mobeau69 Apr 2019 #15

Fuck that. I lived through that shit. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #16

Those were different times BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #19

Are you kidding? zentrum Apr 2019 #27

ok, you convinced me BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #55

Are you sure? zentrum Apr 2019 #90

"Different Times." Then Joe needs to own it. He hasn't. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #36

Alrightythen BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #56

BINGO!!! ... looks like we hava winner!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #67

different times? progressoid Apr 2019 #82

Would you like to read essays from the 70's? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #93

I lived through the 70's. What would reading 70's essays do? progressoid Apr 2019 #96

ummm well, there are essays BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #97

Oh, I see. So you've changed your position and now it's OK to: progressoid Apr 2019 #98

It was a mistake on Joe's part and that's why he should apologize to Anita for his OWN actions. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #66

I don't think that's so hard. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #68

It's NOT hard... pride just makes it UNNECESSARILY hard!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #71

It seems to be, for ### here 'at least.' elleng Apr 2019 #32

She's much too old for SC. mobeau69 Apr 2019 #3

Lol at the concern BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #14

I'm concerned about winning the election. mobeau69 Apr 2019 #17

I saw a clip of Biden from THE VIEW on Andrea Mitchell's show and I cringed a bit. He should helpisontheway Apr 2019 #43

Get Thomas and Repugs to apologize emmaverybo Apr 2019 #61

Yes. He needs to address it. The WaPo article also makes him look weak, able to be pushed around. femmedem Apr 2019 #89

"nominate Anita Hill for confirmation to SCOTUS when Ginsberg retires. " WeekiWater Apr 2019 #4

... ancianita Apr 2019 #11

Will I be forgiven if I don't issue an apology? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #13

Of course! I wasn't 100% behind myself on the suggestion and knew I'd get flack. No problem! ancianita Apr 2019 #21

Damn right loves_da_dems Apr 2019 #5

I'm not sure what you mean by Joe is "woke" DesertRat Apr 2019 #118

Woken up, aware loves_da_dems Apr 2019 #119

Interesting DarthDem Apr 2019 #6

Beer summit ? Negative comments?? You must be joking? delisen Apr 2019 #39

? DarthDem Apr 2019 #44

Very bad idea. Good thing you are not a campaign advisor. drray23 Apr 2019 #51

LOL DarthDem Apr 2019 #54

He called her a few weeks ago to apologize. marylandblue Apr 2019 #63

Seems a bit late.. and for whom is Joe apologizing? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #65

What? Have her have to sit and look at C.Thomas every day???!!!! flor-de-jasmim Apr 2019 #7

Anita Hill was and still is an American icon we all learned from lunatica Apr 2019 #10

A kind way to look at him and us all. Thanks. ancianita Apr 2019 #12

It was shame what happened but that is very long time ago.. honest.abe Apr 2019 #18

No It is Indelible on the hippocampus for thousand upon thousands delisen Apr 2019 #38

I suspect if you did a survey of current voters a small percent.. honest.abe Apr 2019 #45

Possibly that is what you want to believe nt delisen Apr 2019 #62

It was a major news event of the time, and it brought about a shift in attitudes marylandblue Apr 2019 #70

I remember the event because Im an old fart but I didnt recall Biden's involvement.. honest.abe Apr 2019 #72

Sure it's unfair, but that's politics. Everything you ever did will be used against you. marylandblue Apr 2019 #73

If you think its unfair then you should drop it. honest.abe Apr 2019 #78

I'm just talking about what I think Biden should do about it. marylandblue Apr 2019 #80

This issue wont affect him in the general. honest.abe Apr 2019 #81

Every real or imagined fault of his would be an issue in the general marylandblue Apr 2019 #84

Its a non-issue in the general. honest.abe Apr 2019 #94

I'm afraid you haven't been paying attention. And there are no guarantees in life. marylandblue Apr 2019 #95

Im afraid you are pushing a non-issue... guaranteed. honest.abe Apr 2019 #99

Yeah whatever. I'm not even sure you realize what issue I am pushing. marylandblue Apr 2019 #100

Perhaps I dont understand your comments. honest.abe Apr 2019 #102

Ok, I have nothing against Biden. But this is going to be a highly negative campaign cycle. marylandblue Apr 2019 #104

Thank you for this thoughtful and detailed post. honest.abe Apr 2019 #106

I'd be happy to join Biden six months from now, if he's doing well then, and my guy isn't. marylandblue Apr 2019 #120

Cool. I work in Rockville. Used to live there too a few years back. honest.abe Apr 2019 #121

I suspect Anita Hill has long given up expecting a proper apology. Demit Apr 2019 #20

I never read full reports on what was said. We might not ever really know, imo. ancianita Apr 2019 #24

Heres the link to the video where he makes that sweeping statement: Demit Apr 2019 #40

as for this apology issue, wouldn't there be a huge number of other treestar Apr 2019 #115

It wasn't one mistake. zentrum Apr 2019 #22

Okay, I'll do that. I just wanted to get out my first thoughts on what I've read on social media. ancianita Apr 2019 #25

Agreed. zentrum Apr 2019 #30

He said on the view one of the witnesses marlakay Apr 2019 #48

I know what you mean. zentrum Apr 2019 #57

Keep it classy! Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #69

Already reduced to personal attacks on his appearance BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #74

It's a fact we have to deal with. Many voters aren't going to vote on substance but on appearance. progressoid Apr 2019 #85

We don't have to stop BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #86

And yet... BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #77

Temper, temper. zentrum Apr 2019 #83

I guess it is not fair to balance that with the positives treestar Apr 2019 #116

Biden has been my second choice but this REALLY bothers me, A LOT Indygram Apr 2019 #23

This hurts him. Not just the women he hurt. He's got to think and feel this through much better. ancianita Apr 2019 #26

Someone needs to educate him on how obnoxious non-apologies are Indygram Apr 2019 #28

I know you really want that to be true but.... BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #31

Very interesting. Doesn't mean he doesn't have to have better thought about the issue if it comes up ancianita Apr 2019 #34

I'm sure he will be BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #35

Sorry, didn't read past your accusation that people "making a fuss" are politically motivated. Demit Apr 2019 #46

If you don't read what someone says you should not reply to them Indygram Apr 2019 #49

Sorry, didn't read past your calling me rude. Demit Apr 2019 #52

blocked Indygram Apr 2019 #53

What also bothers me zentrum Apr 2019 #103

My issue isn't with the hearing itself Indygram Apr 2019 #107

Got it. zentrum Apr 2019 #109

Cling desperately?? You are misrepresenting Anita Hill delisen Apr 2019 #29

You are right. And he still does have time and a platform. ancianita Apr 2019 #37

Joe believed Anita. True Blue American Apr 2019 #33

All the worse. and when the senators voted Clarence delisen Apr 2019 #42

so why the need to humiliate her? Skittles Apr 2019 #79

I am can to say something that is unpopular. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #41

Yes, and to keep things in perspective Elizabeth Warren was a registered Republican at the time. honest.abe Apr 2019 #47

I am a woman True Blue American Apr 2019 #50

If he had not contacted her to apologize it would be one thing Indygram Apr 2019 #58

Whoa! Keep it classy... Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #59

A real apology would mabe made this a non issue. Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #60

exactly Indygram Apr 2019 #64

Please tell me what a real apology would be. nolabear Apr 2019 #92

He did not say he treated her badly. He should have said "I treated her badly". IMO nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #101

I can give you an example Indygram Apr 2019 #108

Great post nt Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #87

How about we ask Christine Ford what she thinks? leftofcool Apr 2019 #75

The attacks on Anita Hill yesterday were beyond disgusting. demmiblue Apr 2019 #76

The damage done to Hill was done by Republicans Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #88

Yes! emmaverybo Apr 2019 #91

+100000000 treestar Apr 2019 #114

Careful what you wish for. ucrdem Apr 2019 #105

Not wishing. Just making a suggestion. I hear you about all that evangelical leaning (ewww). ancianita Apr 2019 #111

Seriously? However unintentional, this post seems a bit disparaging to Anita Hill and women voters Raven123 Apr 2019 #110

Please read what I read to ucrdem above. If that isn't satisfactory, let me know. ancianita Apr 2019 #112

Why is it all Biden's fault? treestar Apr 2019 #113

Joe takes the pile on today over things his Republican committee members wanted. ancianita Apr 2019 #117