Democratic Primaries

doompatrol39

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79. Honestly, watching a clip of him cheerleading his crime bill....

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:41 PM

Apr 2019

....put me firmly in the "No fucking way" in the primary camp. Yeah, obviously better than Trump, I'll vote fore him in the GE and all of that. But this wasn't just a vote, this was him crowing about how it was going to make people stop saying Democrats were soft on crime.

That AND his marijuana stance.
That AND his behavior during the Anita Hill hearing.
That AND his heavy support of the bankruptcy bill.
That AND the fact that we have so many good candidates who have consistently been on the CORRECT side of these issues and who understand firsthand the dangerous impact of the policies that Joe vigorously supported but has had to "evolve" on and how important it is put forward someone who is a symbol of progress and the future as opposed "Hey, it's that guy we liked in that other thing."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Dear Joe Biden: Marijuana is not a gateway drug and it should be legalized. [View all] garybeck Apr 2019 OP

... BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #1

R U thinking we should just skip over issues and just go straight to anointment? jalan48 Apr 2019 #2

Because we know how well anointment works out. Merlot Apr 2019 #6

Yep. jalan48 Apr 2019 #10

All issues should be properly vetted, as part of the primary process. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #12

I agree, duforsure Apr 2019 #19

Yes, as long as the issue is ACCURATELY represented... there should nothin to fear!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #20

How about some essays from the 70's? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #44

EVERYTHING should be on the table... bring it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #49

You must be talking about... tonedevil Apr 2019 #50

Guess so. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #9

Don't forget DownriverDem Apr 2019 #25

I'm sorry to tell you this, but the system Biden knew is dead. marylandblue Apr 2019 #35

It is just trying to find one minor issue after another BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #43

I'm not sure what you mean by "panic in some quarters". Marijuana legalization is a real issue, jalan48 Apr 2019 #73

POTUS cannot legalize marijuana BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #74

The President is allowed to take stands on certain issues. Are you suggesting the President should jalan48 Apr 2019 #75

will it help him win in general election? AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #84

I think the legalization of marijuana will help Democrats win, yes. jalan48 Apr 2019 #87

That remark probably stings True Dough Apr 2019 #65

So you think pot smokers should be locked up, then? ZZenith Apr 2019 #3

Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #13

I don't get that from the post Leith Apr 2019 #29

It's not his personal beliefs on pot that concern me. ZZenith Apr 2019 #41

lol BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #45

I will add this to the list of reasons Leith Apr 2019 #92

As you wish. ZZenith Apr 2019 #94

What do you think vetting looks like? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #7

Seems to me vetting should apply to ALL candidates... why should Joe get a pass? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #14

It's not going to go away! cannabis_flower Apr 2019 #16

Nor should it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #18

So you think if you pounced on Biden and weakened him BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #47

No one thinks that. Biden is out of touch on this subject compared to all other candidates. Autumn Apr 2019 #77

lmao BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #81

How odd that you find truth to be laughable. Autumn Apr 2019 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #4

No one has been able to explain to me what they mean by "status quo" ehrnst Apr 2019 #32

Status quo BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #48

You know, that totally fits all the times i've heard the term deployed. ehrnst Apr 2019 #54

Yes, when Bernie is elected everything will change from the "status quo" NYMinute Apr 2019 #58

The cost to society for the drug war on MJ is horrendous Merlot Apr 2019 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author happybird Apr 2019 #33

Wow. So sorry you are going through this. marylandblue Apr 2019 #37

Oh, thank you. happybird Apr 2019 #55

Biden on enforcement. Cattledog Apr 2019 #78

Joe has been wrong on several issues in 30 years leftofcool Apr 2019 #8

True, but IMHO, other Democratic candidates, who've been wrong on issues far less frequently... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #17

+1 Go Vols Apr 2019 #23

+1. JudyM Apr 2019 #24

Wrong less frequently... ehrnst Apr 2019 #34

ANd I thought Bernie was nEvEr wRoNg NYMinute Apr 2019 #61

True, but.... paleotn Apr 2019 #51

Gifys of H. Wood, Celebs everywhere lately. Long season ahead appalachiablue Apr 2019 #11

yes, me too. barbtries Apr 2019 #15

So sorry for all that pain, barbtries. JudyM Apr 2019 #26

Exactly. His long history of support for mass incarceration and rollin74 Apr 2019 #21

Sen sanders voted for the crime bill and ran on it in Vermont in 2006. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36

If Biden announces a change of heart and supports rollin74 Apr 2019 #59

Joe Biden is a progressive....so that is untrue. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38

He's always been a moderate, that is a big part of his appeal. marylandblue Apr 2019 #69

It can be statistically proven that Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #22

Heard recently that the zentrum Apr 2019 #27

K&R Kurt V. Apr 2019 #28

Once again Jimmy Carter was ahead of his time Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #30

Still my fav. garybeck Apr 2019 #93

We need a real progressive candidate in the GE or we will get 4 more years of tRump yaesu Apr 2019 #31

Exactly the opposite. We need a candidate who can attract moderates. We won the Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39

Joe has his work cut out for him with young people. crazytown Apr 2019 #85

An ultra left candidate will be destroyed by Trump NYMinute Apr 2019 #64

He'll come around on this issue or he won't. Ain't gonna change my pot smoking not one damn UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #40

It would bother me if he was on the wrong side of the issue... NNadir Apr 2019 #42

If it is illegal... tonedevil Apr 2019 #56

It is illegal to drive 95 miles down the freeway. It has a real potential to harm people. NNadir Apr 2019 #67

I'm sorry to hear your Nephew... tonedevil Apr 2019 #83

The experience of being a designated driver at a wild party has some relevance here. NNadir Apr 2019 #97

Again my sincerest sympathy... tonedevil Apr 2019 #98

Do you wish alcohol was also not legal? nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #86

Do you wish that alcohol was more widely used? Tobacco? Guns? NNadir Apr 2019 #95

heavy handed drug laws and enforcement have... rollin74 Apr 2019 #63

This is true, no question. NNadir Apr 2019 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author NYMinute Apr 2019 #66

You may have misplaced this answer, since I agree with Biden. NNadir Apr 2019 #70

Yes, I did. Thank you. NYMinute Apr 2019 #71

Alcohol is theeeeee, I said theeeeee warmfeet Apr 2019 #46

Purity I tell you. Purity is the only way! tymorial Apr 2019 #52

That quote is from 2010. Cattledog Apr 2019 #53

Subsequent quotes indicate his position remains the same. DesertRat Apr 2019 #76

Saw Joe Biden last summer on the UW Madsion GOTV rally LakeArenal Apr 2019 #57

I am reading everywhere he is not for it marlakay Apr 2019 #62

Well I was there. I heard it. I didn't read it. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #80

Needs to get out then marlakay Apr 2019 #88

A few thousand people here do. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #89

His WI visits are all YouTube FreeState Apr 2019 #91

I agree with you on this issue, but it is SO far down my list. MH1 Apr 2019 #60

Exactly. honest.abe Apr 2019 #90

Biden has qualities that many people don't appreciate NYMinute Apr 2019 #72

Honestly, watching a clip of him cheerleading his crime bill.... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #79

Joe has evolved in 42 years... A lot. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #96

Biden did not say that Marijuana is a gateway drug Gothmog Nov 2019 #99