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Hortensis

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47. It seemed strange to me that National Nurses United would
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 AM
Apr 2019

support with SO much money a farther-leftist candidate like Bernie Sanders with a long record of hostility toward the Democratic Party, the party that gave them the ACA. Yes, some support, but that much to one candidate whose no-achievement record from the very beginning caused virtually all other large donors to refuse to fund his campaign? Nurses tend to be stable, sensible, dependable. The size of the donations just seemed strange, inappropriately large.

All the healthcare workers I've ever chatted with, and there have been a fair number over the years, have been supporters of the ACA, usually strong. They'd be glad of further advances beyond that initial giant one, of course, but I never caught a whiff of the contempt and rejection Sanders' noisier supporters have for the ACA.

Well, the obvious guess why appears to be correct: Similar ideology in the organization's leadership. The NNU was formed by uniting several nurses' groups, and its executive director is Bonnie Castillo, who until 1991 was a member of the Communist Party. No crime in that, of course, and she's an activist who's done a lot of good work, including leading a strong union in an anti-union era. But it does suggest how the organization's donations came to be channeled in a direction that is most likely far more reflective of her ideology than of the large body of its members.

And the other officers, Deborah Burger, Zenei Cortez, and Jean Ross, are similarly farther-left oriented, noting that these are all women of impressive accomplishment. It explains why they strongly support Sanders' version of Medicare for All, in spite of the grim prognosis for both successfully passing something that extreme into law and not having it struck down by the courts, including by the conservative majority on SCOTUS. That is somewhat out of the norm because nurses overall tend to be committed to protecting, not just expanding, patient care. Also, large numbers of nurses are conservative; there are plenty of Republicans and Trump supporters among them in spite of everything.

They actively worked to elect Sanders and participated in farther-left activities in other ways. Okay.

Revealingly, and shockingly to me, though, last month they joined Sanders in refusing to support the Democratic house bill to protect the ACA from Trump's newest attempts to dismantle and to expand and shore up coverages and reduce premiums. The reason was that a better ACA might weaken political support for the Sanders' version of the MfA, which at best wouldn't be passed for another 3 years or so and couldn't be fully implemented for another 7 years. How many years do they intend to hurt people and even patients by opposing improving coverages and care through the ACA when we can?

Btw, they also positioned themselves on the side of the Sanders delegates against Nevada's Democratic Party after disruptions by Sanders delegates rising to rioting at the NV state convention, publishing an account of grievances that was both contradicted and otherwise not supported by investigative media reports at the time and that completely failed to mention any of a long list of egregious, even potentially criminal behaviors by some Sanders delegates.

So, in any case, there's some insight into how the NNU's extra-big money support for a candidate overall much farther to the left than their membership came about, and very likely continues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Well well well.. Cha Apr 2019 #1
Bernie Sanders's new political group won't have to disclose its donors lapucelle Apr 2019 #2
How is that Cha Apr 2019 #5
Bernie has peaked at 20-25% BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #19
It's life or death.. Cha May 2019 #82
K&R murielm99 Apr 2019 #3
So, unless OR makes it's donor lists public, attacks on Biden's donors are moot. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #4
Only fair. Cha Apr 2019 #6
Supposedly, they do. namahage Apr 2019 #11
"Anonymous Anonymous" a donor name that just defines 'transparency." (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #14
They don't give the amounts that each has contributed. Interestingly a quick rundown of the list... George II Apr 2019 #29
Our Revolution is a PAC Gothmog Apr 2019 #7
Appears to be so. Skidmore Apr 2019 #8
Technically it is a 501(c)(4) progressoid Apr 2019 #22
This is the same structure used by Karl Rove Gothmog Apr 2019 #23
And Stephen Colbert progressoid Apr 2019 #31
Crossroads GPS, anyone? namahage Apr 2019 #32
Interestingly, Rove's Crossroads GPS ran some anti-Hillary ads in some very targeted ehrnst Apr 2019 #35
Thank YOu! Cha May 2019 #89
Here are some facts Gothmog May 2019 #90
Yeah, I always figured if Cha May 2019 #91
K&R betsuni Apr 2019 #9
The revolution will not be televised pbmus Apr 2019 #10
Oh dear oh dear NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #12
"Status quo," I guess. ehrnst Apr 2019 #13
I'm not championing Bernie, but. zaj Apr 2019 #15
It's about Transparency. Cha May 2019 #92
I have always thought of Sanders as sneaky NYMinute Apr 2019 #16
I agree with you BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #17
Wait. Isn't he Senator Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) now?... SidDithers Apr 2019 #18
I'll be keeping my eyes on the Vermont newspapers. lapucelle Apr 2019 #21
I saw the article last night and meant to post it, but got distracted. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #26
.. Cha May 2019 #83
Mahalo! lapucelle May 2019 #84
I thought of it because Cha May 2019 #85
The Revolution can be monitized in many ways, Cha. lapucelle May 2019 #86
Oh yeah.. I have Cha May 2019 #87
K&R nt lillypaddle Apr 2019 #20
Interesting reading, lapucelle. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #24
I need to time to read but it looks there are $$ from a Nurses Union and some progressive PAC with CentralMass Apr 2019 #25
It's the very definition of dark money. lapucelle Apr 2019 #27
A Nursing Union and a Progressive PAC ? CentralMass Apr 2019 #28
Our Revolution lapucelle Apr 2019 #30
After rezding thae articld more i think that it a well written and honest article CentralMass Apr 2019 #37
Yeah, I'm sure Sanders would not be involved with OR. namahage Apr 2019 #50
We know who that donor is, at least. ehrnst Apr 2019 #33
Yes, a nurses union. lapucelle Apr 2019 #49
Not the same. NNU is headed by some long-time activists Hortensis May 2019 #88
If a PAC participates in political activity but doesn't reveal the sources.... George II Apr 2019 #41
I'm curious as to how the number of donations factors in. lapucelle Apr 2019 #42
Some candidates like to blur the line between donor count and donation count, hoping... George II Apr 2019 #44
Do you know anything about Good Jobs Nation's connection to Our Revolution? N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #45
My understanding is that there is a "dotted line" relationship between Our Revolution... George II Apr 2019 #46
Interesting, so Bernie is heavily involved in his groups R B Garr Apr 2019 #56
It also may be a violation of Federal Law on the part of Our Revolution, a 501(c)(4) committee... George II Apr 2019 #60
Breaking the law are we? murielm99 Apr 2019 #67
Blatantly. George II Apr 2019 #68
There is no excuse for this. It's intellectual dishonesty R B Garr May 2019 #71
Even if it's not "against the law" (it probably is), it is proof that Sanders is accepting..... George II May 2019 #72
Yes. Good points, and another reason why we need to see R B Garr May 2019 #73
It is, by definition "dark money". lapucelle May 2019 #94
What? mcar Apr 2019 #34
Hasn't it already been monetized with those stellar book sales? I'm surprised Bernie didn't put UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #36
It's hard tellin' how much the 'free' help that Bernie got from Russia was worth. bloom Apr 2019 #38
Time to kick this with Cha Apr 2019 #39
Our Revolution is a dark money PAC Gothmog Apr 2019 #40
Informative read. brer cat Apr 2019 #43
It seemed strange to me that National Nurses United would Hortensis Apr 2019 #47
This deserves its own OP. lapucelle Apr 2019 #48
Also worth repeating that these were given as dark-money Hortensis Apr 2019 #52
Thank YOu, Hortensis! Cha Apr 2019 #70
I am shocked SHOCKED to find gambling on here. nycbos Apr 2019 #51
Bernie, April 2016: namahage Apr 2019 #53
Hypocrisy indeed LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #54
Seems like we may have a problem here: George II Apr 2019 #57
k&r Skidmore Apr 2019 #59
This is illegal-PACs cannot coordinate with campaigns Gothmog Apr 2019 #61
OMG.. are you still willing to "talk" Cha Apr 2019 #63
Not Walking One's Talk Me. Apr 2019 #55
No Kidding! Cha Apr 2019 #64
... Me. Apr 2019 #66
kick nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #58
"I find this whole virtue signaling around corporate donations and no PACs to be ridiculous as.." Cha Apr 2019 #62
Sanders Struggles to Retain Outsider Status Gothmog May 2019 #77
... Scurrilous Apr 2019 #65
K Cha Apr 2019 #69
But IOIBDI ecstatic May 2019 #74
Deep dive into how Bernie Sanders' 2020 campaign is benefitting from political infrastructure Gothmog May 2019 #75
So, in other words, he DOES accept money from Super PACs and organizations accepting "dark money". George II May 2019 #79
Yep Gothmog May 2019 #80
im still trying to figure out what 'our revolution' is about samnsara May 2019 #76
K & R . revmclaren May 2019 #78
Bernie Sanders, a Front-Runner With Financing to Prove It, Struggles to Retain Outsider Status Cha May 2019 #81
Lots of dark money in those PACs LibFarmer May 2019 #93
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