Democratic Primaries

StarfishSaver

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58. I wasn't retired when I got involved in politics

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:03 PM

Apr 2019

I was in school and working and handling many responsibilities.

Everyone doesn't have to spend 24-7 toiling away in the political world. But if people have time to post cool pictures on Instagram, hang out with their friends, and go online to complain about how politicians aren't "connecting" with them, they at least have time to study up on the issues and vote and shouldn't wait around to be "inspired" by someone before they get engaged.

My parents and grandparents and countless other people worked several jobs, went to school, raised families, and STILL managed to organize and march and protest and get informed and inform others and vote. And they had many fewer resources and opportunities than we have today (and often had to do these at great risk to their safety and livelihoods). I'm tired of the whining, excuses and sense of entitlement we see too often among Democrats who don't face a fraction of the challenges that other people did (and still do).

If we want change, we have to get involved and stop expecting to be treated like precious, fragile commodities who must be catered to and coddled.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Young people are the most progressive generation in history. [View all] Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #1

Being the most progressive generation in history is wise, do you believe otherwise? n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #2

And you know, PatSeg Apr 2019 #6

I remember the 60s and 70s as well, yes we made quantum leaps but then we Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #13

Maybe you did but you can't speak for all of us. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #35

The Democratic Party turned to the right after Reagan and the Republican Party became Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #45

Quite true. Laelth Apr 2019 #79

That's why Bernie says "change must come from the ground up" Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #84

Many working class Dems voted For Reagan as a rejection of progressive government wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #83

Reagan could not deliver on his promise. Laelth Apr 2019 #92

Agree Reagan was a criminal also wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #97

That's not what happened Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #95

Yes it is. Today's "progressives" love to rewrite history wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #98

Not what happened Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #99

We can go back and forth all day. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #107

That proves the younger generation are more progressive JonLP24 Apr 2019 #101

The younger generation faces a world with less of a chance wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #104

A lot of the young people PatSeg Apr 2019 #56

you literally are saying that being anti-racist, anti-sexist and anti-religious bigotry Celerity Apr 2019 #28

I meant nothing of the sort BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #44

I did not do that, your own words did, and you offered no clarification just now which could have Celerity Apr 2019 #46

I edited my post just for you! BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #48

let me lay out fully what I meant, in the interest of fairness Celerity Apr 2019 #63

"Your generation is anti-racist, anti-sexist and anti-religious bigotry." Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #65

Then they grow, become pragmatic, and start voting. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #59

Being anti-racist is extremism? Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #64

Misinterpreting what I wrote BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #71

Democrats are all progressive, not to be confused with Hortensis Apr 2019 #70

The problem is that they don't actually vote. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #3

Then perhaps the two major parties in the U.S. should listen to them and speak Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #5

It's always been that way and there are a lot of reasons for it, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #12

Why do you believe the vote was so high with the younger generation in 1972? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #18

My first vote was in 1972, and yes, it had a whole lot to do with the war. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #20

No it wasn't because the baby boomers were just rising to a demographic point of power Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #24

Even so, only 55% could be bothered to vote despite the widespread opposition The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #29

Bernie got more votes from Americans under 30 years old than Clinton and Trump combined. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #37

That was for the primary elections. Anyhow, I'm not talking about Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #47

You can't separate the two results and it wasn't binary, my post included Trump's totals as well n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #50

Trump participated in the 2016 Democratic Primary? OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #87

Whoever said Trump was in the Democratic Primary? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #88

You did. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #105

There were always at least three selections even counting the primary. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #43

He didn't even win the primary last time... where were the young people? Agschmid Apr 2019 #78

There is nobody running that doesn't have the same wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #36

They should still vote treestar Apr 2019 #120

This is true. They did turn out in bigger numbers for the 2018 mid-terms... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #60

They will be coming out in droves in 2020 Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #66

Easy to be all that progressive when you don't have a Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #4

Ha! oldsoftie Apr 2019 #9

It's easy to be progressive when you're trying to start a family but are swamped Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #10

Some of the answers on this thread are disturbing Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #68

I feel the same way Mr Tibbs. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #69

So it's hard to be anti-racist, anti-sexist and anti-religious bigotry.... Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #67

The Woodstock Generation crazytown Apr 2019 #7

No Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #93

'Generation' : 20 in '69, 70 in 2019 crazytown Apr 2019 #94

The Woodstock generation was the hippie movement Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #96

That's not what the OP is about. It's the year. crazytown Apr 2019 #100

Most people of that age were not part of any movement treestar Apr 2019 #121

No way in hell appalachiablue Apr 2019 #134

Tell me how progressive 70+ year people are? crazytown Apr 2019 #135

A song doesn't make facts. People younger than 70 also appalachiablue Apr 2019 #137

Sorry. crazytown Apr 2019 #138

We need a candidate that will inspire them enough to get to the polls & vote yaesu Apr 2019 #8

Maybe people should stop waiting to be "inspired" by strangers and go out and make change themselves StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #39

Excellent point. Politics shouldn't be treated as show business The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #51

Exactly this BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #52

So we're such political experts BlueWI Apr 2019 #77

It's not our fault BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #86

Nothing is our fault. BlueWI Apr 2019 #141

Your blaming older Democrats for electing Trump? StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #110

Older voters, white voters, BlueWI Apr 2019 #140

Older white voters, conservative white voters, young white voters, female white voters, male white StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #145

I haven't looked up the figures for Democrats voting for Trump BlueWI Apr 2019 #146

well, maybe someone who is retired, but those just starting out, 2 or 3 jobs, school, well yaesu Apr 2019 #55

I wasn't retired when I got involved in politics StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #58

Many of them are making change. BlueWI Apr 2019 #76

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ JHan Apr 2019 #106

I agree. betsuni Apr 2019 #111

We're totally on the same page StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #117

+1 good grief it is so tiring to hear that claim treestar Apr 2019 #122

Some of them are. Some are not. MineralMan Apr 2019 #11

You and I bracket the Baby Boom: I was born in '62. Your perspective matches mine. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #15

Yup. I was born about a week before the Hiroshima bomb. MineralMan Apr 2019 #17

I find it so amusing that Sanders says the current young generation is the most progressive, yet he LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #19

Indeed. I've told my story here several times. MineralMan Apr 2019 #25

In 2016, a third of young voters voted for Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #30

Exactly. Some people are pushing the idea that all young people MineralMan Apr 2019 #73

You are not accounting for Demographic differences. BlueWI Apr 2019 #80

+1 treestar Apr 2019 #124

I agree; I am in the younger Baby Boom and treestar Apr 2019 #123

My political position never changed from those days. MineralMan Apr 2019 #127

The generation is its entirety, or the average treestar Apr 2019 #129

Climate change will make them even more so as time passes. The days of corporations running jalan48 Apr 2019 #14

I agree on all counts jalan. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #21

I feel like we're living in a fantasy land when it comes to dealing with THE biggest issue facing us jalan48 Apr 2019 #23

I hope that's the case. We're in real trouble on this good earth. appalachiablue Apr 2019 #136

Other countries manage to have old liberals IronLionZion Apr 2019 #16

There are a lot of old liberals in the US. I attended some marches and rallies The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #22

My mom was a "libbie". How many even remember that term? LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #26

We didn't have the draft by then either. n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #27

When I was a teenager in the 50's marybourg Apr 2019 #31

I get that we have many older liberals on DU IronLionZion Apr 2019 #85

So glad. Now, vote. Show us how willing you are to live up to BS's praise. Chin music Apr 2019 #32

Yea? In the sixties we had the civil rights movement wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #33

Seriously. It's like he thinks he's the only lifelong liberal out there. nolabear Apr 2019 #57

Don't *assume* young people will vote, or that they will be reliably progressive/liberal. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #34

Youth voters played a significant role in the 2018 midterm election dalton99a Apr 2019 #38

Thanks for the addition dalton. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #41

I know young people on both extremes. MH1 Apr 2019 #40

What does "extreme progressive" mean to you? n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #42

"Progressive" is in quotes because that's what they call themselves MH1 Apr 2019 #49

Bravo for this! The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #54

+∞ LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #62

Bravo! nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #72

Ah, yes, "progressives"... lapucelle Apr 2019 #81

Strawman argument Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #103

If we energize the youth vote, we win, no question Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #53

I take Morning Consult with a grain of salt, but Biden seems to do well with the youth here LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #61

Yes he does, but don't try to tell Sanders supporters that. MineralMan Apr 2019 #74

What do you know? This chart proves Bernie's point.... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #91

That's a pretty big "would not vote" segment for Gen Z and Millennials... Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #118

I would actually expect it to be much higher; that age group historically has the lowest turnout LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #119

We have learned from last time though treestar Apr 2019 #126

The party needs to evolve past "Get off my lawn" Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #113

They see something many earlier trailblazers and beneficiaries refuse to acknowledge loyalsister Apr 2019 #75

As a baby boomer, I agree with you loyalsister. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #89

I know a lot of baby boomers who see it as more work for us all to do loyalsister Apr 2019 #90

Now that's some high caliber pandering Renew Deal Apr 2019 #82

Whether you consider it "pandering" or not, it's the truth, do you dispute it? n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #109

i take partial credit. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #102

... Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #112

What about the 60's generation? honest.abe Apr 2019 #114

Most of them are trump voters today. nt RandiFan1290 Apr 2019 #115

I seriously doubt that. honest.abe Apr 2019 #116

Oh, it's true. Mariana Apr 2019 #125

Whos to say this current younger generation wont swing conservative? honest.abe Apr 2019 #130

We don't know what the future holds. Mariana Apr 2019 #132

Most of them were going to work in suits by treestar Apr 2019 #128

A progressive cant wear a suit?? honest.abe Apr 2019 #131

Certainly, a progressive can wear a suit. Mariana Apr 2019 #133

Is this the definition of progressive? qwlauren35 Apr 2019 #139

Here is a nice article on the subject from this past January Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #142

Thanks for the article. qwlauren35 Apr 2019 #143

You are welcome qwlauren. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #144

Absolutely. BeckyDem Apr 2019 #147