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EffieBlack

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148. African American women were asking him what he would do

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 11:21 PM

Apr 2019

He didn't answer the question. They asked him again. He launched into his "history" (attending a march 56 years ago and supporting a black candidate 35 years ago). At that point, any sane person would be groaning out loud.

If Sanders can't answer a simple question about what he would do on a specific matter without prefacing it with a case history of having done something good on civil rights in his 20s - something every informed woman in the audience likely already knew - he is not ready for prime time.

The bottom line is that Sanders doesn't know how to connect with minorities and when called to do so, falls back on his "Did you know I marched with Dr. King?"

And then, when black folks react with less than slavish "Bernie is so dreamy" devotion, as sure as day follows night, his followers swarm us to whitesplain (that applies to Nina, too) why WE are wrong and rude and cluekess because we just don't understand how awesome Bernie truly is.

Bernie blew it. HE'S the problem, not us. If he wants to be president, he'd better learn how to do better. And your lectures about how Bernie was mistreated by the audience only dig him in deeper.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Nina Turner Blasts Audience From Black Women's Forum for Booing Senator's MLK Comments [View all] ehrnst Apr 2019 OP

WhoTF is Nina Turner? LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #1

Well, she's not a campaign manager who ensures the candidate is briefed and prepared ehrnst Apr 2019 #5

Their campaign manager job description must be Hortensis Apr 2019 #103

He was active in college, and he endorsed Jessie Jackson for POTUS! ehrnst Apr 2019 #155

And how DARE they not sit quietly while he AGAIN told them his history?! EffieBlack Apr 2019 #158

Apparently, he was "setting the stage for showing them he was on their side" ehrnst Apr 2019 #161

Hey Effie, hi. Just one part of the enormous burden Hortensis Apr 2019 #162

A former Congress Woman True Blue American Apr 2019 #15

Turner bailed on Hillary's 2016 campaign, got on Bernie's payroll oasis Apr 2019 #70

Turner was never in Congress BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #78

Right True Blue American Apr 2019 #153

A Jill stein Groupie... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39

She's been promised big things from BERNIE, I THINK Dream Girl Apr 2019 #77

She can certainly speak for one Black Woman. nt tonedevil Apr 2019 #95

i think she is horrible. She spewed tons of hatred on Hillary. .... and she still does to this day trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #106

Revolutionaries are trying to invent history dalton99a Apr 2019 #2

Political Hatchet Persons Come in All Shapes and Sizes dlk Apr 2019 #3

i dont think ppl are falling for her rhetoric any more..her anger looks more like whats on the.. samnsara Apr 2019 #4

I wonder if they would gave been booingJoe Bidens comments from CentralMass Apr 2019 #6

'Back in that era'.... last week? ehrnst Apr 2019 #8

This is about comparisons. What were these two people CentralMass Apr 2019 #28

So now you want to avoid the answer to the question I asked because the answer was ehrnst Apr 2019 #54

Yep. You got it. lillypaddle Apr 2019 #63

I thought that I had. However we do all think and process differently. CentralMass Apr 2019 #69

So you believe want you want and hate who you hate. ehrnst Apr 2019 #80

Whataboutism is a bunch if crap. History matters. CentralMass Apr 2019 #87

You deployed whataboutism "But what about JOE?" So clearly you don't think it's a bunch of crap. ehrnst Apr 2019 #92

I see you are trying to somehow tie Sanders to white nationalism or not condemning it CentralMass Apr 2019 #111

Another ugly, ugly strawman? Really? ehrnst Apr 2019 #154

BUT WHAT ABOUT JOE BIDEN IN 1975???? LOOK OVER THERE!!! ehrnst Apr 2019 #160

excellent assessment Skittles Apr 2019 #151

Bernie 1963, Joe 1970 mcar Apr 2019 #61

Joe 1972: Senator. Bernie 1972: "essays" ehrnst Apr 2019 #68

I always wonder why some supporters cannot admit their candidate mcar Apr 2019 #120

Especially because we've seen this conservation a million times: betsuni Apr 2019 #128

2nd B is me mcar Apr 2019 #131

Thank you for sharing this. underthematrix Apr 2019 #97

Not entirely sure you want to go there dsc Apr 2019 #29

If you could, please link an article to the specific on that. CentralMass Apr 2019 #37

No problem dsc Apr 2019 #72

You think that is a postive ? CentralMass Apr 2019 #75

ah no dsc Apr 2019 #79

My apologies. I thought the reply was to me. CentralMass Apr 2019 #83

Attacked even before you read it fully. ehrnst Apr 2019 #163

The problem is radical noodle Apr 2019 #13

It is not back in the era.and Sanders also voted for the crime bill. He didn't answer Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #43

She attacked the audience. She did not help Sanders. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #47

They booed him because he didn't answer the question. Joe would have answered the question, ie would MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #86

Wonder away.. The WOC Booed BS at Cha Apr 2019 #105

And now, our daily dose of Whataboutism... LanternWaste Apr 2019 #173

Oh, please. Sanders got a negative reaction because he didn't answer the question directly. Turner highplainsdem Apr 2019 #7

I'm no fan of Nina Turner PatSeg Apr 2019 #16

You might also be uncomfortable in a historically black church as well. ehrnst Apr 2019 #23

I am not uncomfortable in a black Church. True Blue American Apr 2019 #33

I'm talking about your observation that the audience was "rude" and "disrespectful." ehrnst Apr 2019 #62

Yup. Black audiences are familiar with white men telling them MineralMan Apr 2019 #170

Someone who doesn't think they have anything to learn doesn't listen. ehrnst Apr 2019 #171

Bernie has a story to tell. He thinks it's a great story and that everyone MineralMan Apr 2019 #172

A status quo career politician's sidestep, as it were.(nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #176

Hmm I though it was great. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #81

The WOC Booed BS at#SheThePeople Cha Apr 2019 #109

He should've been more prepared MustLoveBeagles Apr 2019 #122

"Instead of blaming the hosts and the audience for what happened, his campaign needs to take Cha Apr 2019 #126

I understand that PatSeg Apr 2019 #124

I'm glad they did it.. it was too Cha Apr 2019 #127

I guess I just disagree PatSeg Apr 2019 #138

This is the same woman who addressed a rally/town hall a few weeks ago, referring to.... George II Apr 2019 #9

+1. Evidently that's how revolutionairies talk dalton99a Apr 2019 #12

Last night Cornell West was on Anderson Cooper's show, and he immediately launched.... George II Apr 2019 #17

Gosh, 2016 all over again? Iliyah Apr 2019 #88

When I see BS supporters like Cornell West calling perfectly good Democrats comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #89

Cornel West is a "milqtoast neo-liberal"- Jill Stein voter.. Cha Apr 2019 #116

Cornel West isn't a revolutionary StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #117

Nina should have told Bernie about being truthful NYMinute Apr 2019 #10

Take you own advice and be truthful, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #11

Just his supporters.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #14

Some supporters thought it was Bernie because of a strong resemblance in the pics. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #21

When did I say that Sanders claimed to be? ehrnst Apr 2019 #30

Bernie was trying to set the stage by citing his history in order to let Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #34

He has been setting the stage since 2015 NYMinute Apr 2019 #41

He didn't 'set the stage' he was on the defensive, and gave it instead of an answer... ehrnst Apr 2019 #44

Well said. MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #90

Why couldn't he answer the question about white supremacy? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #50

Serious question... JHan Apr 2019 #55

I understand that he "annoints Democratic ideas, then presents them to the public." ehrnst Apr 2019 #57

I mean the communication failure here is so damn obvious. JHan Apr 2019 #59

He should have been grateful to She the People for the opportunity, ehrnst Apr 2019 #66

The WOC Booed BS at#SheThePeople Cha Apr 2019 #113

Then why were his surrogates etc. irate when John Lewis TRUTHFULLY said, in reference to... George II Apr 2019 #20

You might try using John Lewis' words TRUTHFULLY, he wasn't referring to just Selma Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #24

Yes, he said "I never saw him, I never met him." in the 1960s. That's what he said, and.... George II Apr 2019 #26

The inference taken was that Bernie didn't participate in the 1960s civil right movements. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #31

And BS likes to "infer" that he was "with" MLK at the 1963 march when, in fact he wasn't.... George II Apr 2019 #35

Not to mention touring Europe during the height of the Vietnam war protests... ehrnst Apr 2019 #38

Bernie doesn't "infer," he states unequivocally that he was there, and who are you to say he wasn't? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #42

"But he endorsed Jessie Jackson!" attempt to derail ehrnst Apr 2019 #45

Your post would make sense if Jesse Jackson didn't believe in civil rights Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #56

And you still continue to try to derail... ehrnst Apr 2019 #64

I never said he wasn't there (in DC), but he certainly among the dignitaries, or.... George II Apr 2019 #65

I was at Capitol Arena with Fleetwood Mac last month. ehrnst Apr 2019 #67

"Simply?" In 1963 segregationist America! Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #71

This all goes back to the OP and Nina Turner bashing the people at the She the People.... George II Apr 2019 #76

He acted like he was doing them a favor, so he could tell them what they should be asking about ehrnst Apr 2019 #99

Charleton Heston and Mitch McConnell were there on the Mall that day "with MLK," too. ehrnst Apr 2019 #98

The inference that Sanders was a civil rights icon is not accurate. ehrnst Apr 2019 #36

I know scores if not hundreds of people who were at the March on Washington StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #119

No person can project their feelings on an event to another person, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #123

Unfortunately, this bears repeating ... Again EffieBlack Apr 2019 #125

Bernie no sooner got the words out of his mouth before some started heckling him, he was Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #130

That's probably because they'd heard it before ... EffieBlack Apr 2019 #134

Yes that would have taken at least an entire minute or two, short time in Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #137

He never answered the question EffieBlack Apr 2019 #141

He was never given the chance, they cut him off as he was speaking to a televised town hall, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #142

Did you actually watch it EffieBlack Apr 2019 #143

Bernie wasn't finished speaking and the only person to determine that is the speaker unless Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #146

African American women were asking him what he would do EffieBlack Apr 2019 #148

Now you're just using hyperbole, giving a speaker respect Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #149

So tell us, why didn't any other candidate have this reaction to this audience? ehrnst Apr 2019 #156

Thank You, ehrnst! Cha May 2019 #178

Thank you, Effie. betsuni Apr 2019 #132

This is so well said mcar Apr 2019 #133

It was an OP EffieBlack Apr 2019 #135

Can't say I'm surprised mcar Apr 2019 #139

What they REALLY slammed Lewis for was saying that he did see Bill and Hillary... ehrnst Apr 2019 #32

It was a passion for Hillary and Bill NYMinute Apr 2019 #46

When Bernie was writing 'essays' in VT, Hillary was in Mississippi going door to door ehrnst Apr 2019 #51

+1 betsuni Apr 2019 #101

Exactly. betsuni Apr 2019 #102

Scolding AA women for "disrespecting" BS? mcar Apr 2019 #18

I absolutely detest Nina Turner. She's a big reason why, for me, BS is last on the list. writes3000 Apr 2019 #19

Washington PostAnalysis: Why women of color booed Bernie Sanders at a recent speech Gothmog Apr 2019 #22

What neither of them ever say is that there were 249,999 others "with" MLK at that march... George II Apr 2019 #27

What's Nina Turner the senator of? N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #94

BS just doesn't get it.. Cha Apr 2019 #118

Nina Turner is not a top tier political mind calguy Apr 2019 #25

Her mouth moves way faster than her brain cells. nt NYMinute Apr 2019 #48

I wonder if she would still agree with.. Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #73

I have long viewed her as having the political savvy or a mushroom. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #144

+1. Diamond and Silk are taken dalton99a Apr 2019 #74

Simone Sanders, once his press sec. is now with the Biden campaign. brush Apr 2019 #84

But having a WOC as his campaign manager seems to be handy for giving him cover ehrnst Apr 2019 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #40

Handwriting has been on the wall NYMinute Apr 2019 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #52

His message is tired and for the 1970's NYMinute Apr 2019 #58

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #53

Oh Nina.. we know you are worried as the polls show your guy losing points in the polls! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #60

He sure didn't think she was useful as a source for what WOC might ask him about ehrnst Apr 2019 #82

Wow. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #85

The world where you're asked about 2020 and you talk about what you did in college in the '60s. betsuni Apr 2019 #91

Charlton Heston marched with MLK Buzz cook Apr 2019 #93

Mitch McConnell was there too. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #96

Heston was a very prominent marcher also. Blue_true Apr 2019 #145

So Nina Turner thought it was a good idea to admonish a crowd full of Black women in Houston Cha Apr 2019 #104

They will never learn. ucrdem Apr 2019 #108

The BS team should have put their energy into figuring out how to win a room full of black women Cha Apr 2019 #110

"Senator Bernie Sanders is consistent" says Nina. ucrdem Apr 2019 #112

lol. That's their Go To. Cha Apr 2019 #114

"... if they stood up with the Reverend": well, he didn't. ucrdem Apr 2019 #107

"In what world when you mention the fact you were at the March on Washington do people boo that?" StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #115

If you paid attention you would Cha Apr 2019 #129

John Lewis/Democratic leaders booed at convention didn't happen/fake news/you're a troll. betsuni Apr 2019 #136

LOL.. There's Video! Cha Apr 2019 #152

I think you may have misread my post StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #140

OMG! I am so Sorry, StarFishSaver! Cha Apr 2019 #150

No worries and no apologies necessary! StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #159

Oh Yes Cha Apr 2019 #167

I feel it was viewed as his... WeekiWater Apr 2019 #121

Yeah. Blue_true Apr 2019 #147

Sanders sending a WOC to smear WOC to a cheering very white crowd is very bad optics. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #157

Nina, "in what world" do Sanders supporters boo John Lewis? Because they did. Hekate Apr 2019 #164

I was there when this happened Gothmog Apr 2019 #175

I know, and I am so not going to forget Hekate Apr 2019 #177

Best response to all this... ehrnst Apr 2019 #165

So, the audience was also establishment? robbedvoter Apr 2019 #166

This was a bad move by turner Gothmog Apr 2019 #168

And her boss. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #169

Here is some good polling Gothmog Apr 2019 #174