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highplainsdem

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16. Because what Sanders is doing is VERY likely to result in a backlash and hard feelings toward

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 11:22 PM

Apr 2019

whatever volunteer provides such personal contact info on friends and family.

I don't want to think that anyone I know and like would be so inconsiderate of me.

And I don't want to think that anyone I know and like would be so gullible or brainwashed as to think this app was a good idea.

I'm used to being irked if databases are sold by companies I've done business with in some way. I can either assume I didn't read fine print carefully enough, or those companies were unethical.

I think it's grotesque that Sanders is doing something here that will result in anger and feelings of betrayal between friends and family members as his most deluded followers think this is a good idea and set up those close to them for what they might see as harassment.

I have relatives who are very careful not to give out cell phone #s in any way that can lead to robocalls on them -- they'll provide a landline # if there's a chance of that. I hope to God they don't have a Bernie bro in the family who'll dutifully hand over that cell phone number to the Sanders campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So Sanders is asking his followers to feed other people's names, phone numbers & email [View all] highplainsdem Apr 2019 OP

Every campaign uses databases filled with names Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #1

Yes, I know they can get public records, and also buy or share some databases. But usually even highplainsdem Apr 2019 #3

So you'd prefer databases provided by Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #4

I'd have a very low opinion of any volunteer turning over family & friends' contact info without highplainsdem Apr 2019 #7

So you would prefer the use of commercial Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #9

No, I'd prefer people not give out my information without my permission. What part of that LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #10

The part where every campaign is using Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #12

I've gotten used to them, but that's not the point. It in no way excuses the actions described LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #14

Yes. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #11

Why? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #13

Because what Sanders is doing is VERY likely to result in a backlash and hard feelings toward highplainsdem Apr 2019 #16

Strawman Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #27

Really? dawg day Apr 2019 #60

Obama pioneered this Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #86

Of Course He Won't Share His Info Me. Apr 2019 #83

So when one straw man doesn't work, just switch to another? Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #85

THe Past Is Prologue Here Me. Apr 2019 #87

A Strawman argument is a logical fallacy Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #94

Then You Are Using It Incorrectly Me. Apr 2019 #97

Makes your head spin don't it? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #93

I would be pissed if anyone I know turned over my information without my permission. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #35

Your data is collected all the time. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #43

No, asking a friend or family member is different. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #46

Yep, and saying, "they get your information anyway" is a lame defense. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #70

Yes it is. It gives me hope that Sanders will be out fairly quickly. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #71

+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #76

Very few people have my email address. I do that for a reason. If a friend gives my email away GemDigger Apr 2019 #82

No they don't. We do NOT "know that", right? I've never seen that before, but whatev' George II Apr 2019 #15

Me neither and I have been working on campaigns DURHAM D Apr 2019 #21

Seriously? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #28

So have I and no campaign ever got prior explicet permission from everybody on their ... marble falls Apr 2019 #45

I've worked on dozens of local, district and state wide campaigns - this has NEVER happened.... George II Apr 2019 #57

Yes they do. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #25

Not the same thing. nt DURHAM D Apr 2019 #63

These are heavy handed techniques used BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #2

"Heavy handed techniques used to aggressively peddle something people don't want." Exactly. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #5

It does seem somewhat of a desperate action. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #6

I've been unsubscribing from email messages since the midterms; The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #8

NEXT: "Dear You, Thank You for Joining The Revolution. .... dalton99a Apr 2019 #17

! crazytown Apr 2019 #19

ROFL! highplainsdem Apr 2019 #20

LOL! Cha Apr 2019 #23

More likely .... NYMinute Apr 2019 #62

After 2020 he'll start a "multi-level" marketing company awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #18

The new BernWOW towels NYMinute Apr 2019 #64

Isn't that what Facebook got busted for? ucrdem Apr 2019 #22

Facebook is facing $5B in fines from FTC and is being sued by Canada over C.A. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #58

Sounds like the perfect place to launch a data-mining campaign app. ucrdem Apr 2019 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author McKim Apr 2019 #24

All serious campaigns do this Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #26

Amazing isn't it? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #29

Do you have some proof for this assertion? n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #30

This is standard "Growing your email database!" stuff Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #31

That is your opinion. Those of us who worked Obama's campaign know this is BS Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38

Obama/Biden's campaign pioneered it Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #61

No they didn't. Databases have nothing to do with asking people who work for Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #74

Upthread I linked to an article about Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #32

Thank you. Just getting up to speed this morning. rzemanfl Apr 2019 #34

No shit. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #44

This isn't big data ...not the same. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #40

You are correct. This is, quite decidedly ... small data. mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #77

I worked Obama's campaign twice and was never asked to provide Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36

Everyone was asked to use their campaign app. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #41

How many serious campaigns have you worked on? we can do it Apr 2019 #59

NO THEY DONT. Using MY information without my consent IW WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #91

Obama/Biden pioneered this Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #33

No that is simply untrue. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #37

I linked to the story upthread Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #42

I understand databases. But the Obama campaign did not ask for names from Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #47

In fact the Obama campaigns software Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #50

That is not the same thing. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #51

Actually it was basically the same. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #54

You're right, it's not 'the same'. But it's arguably more nefarious if you think about it ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #78

No offense, I work elections every year... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #48

I guess you didn't like the first article Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #53

Obama doing it doesn't count. Bernie is not Obama. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #72

But but mommy... he started it ... sob sob (nt) NYMinute Apr 2019 #65

Everybody uses databases and harvests information, but... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #49

+1000 Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #52

On the fail scale. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #56

Nope. As I documented upthread Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #55

"Social network data" is still public data. People sign up for stuff and that makes... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #88

Lulzd Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #92

When you refer 5 friends NYMinute Apr 2019 #66

How nice for Sanders' book sales. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #68

Btw, do you have a link for that? Just tried to find one to add here. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #75

My comment was sarcastic. NYMinute Apr 2019 #80

Thanks for explaining that it was sarcasm. Yes, I'd already read about the campaign spending highplainsdem Apr 2019 #81

Bernie has to get rid of them somehow. zackymilly Apr 2019 #107

so when he loses, will he share this w the nominee? mopinko Apr 2019 #69

0% chance of that if his past behavior is any indication. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #73

So now the bros can be even more obnoxious sweetloukillbot Apr 2019 #79

This is a stupid spin. Everyone asks for referrals in business and politics. Pisces Apr 2019 #84

Any friend who supplies my contact information to any candidate MineralMan Apr 2019 #89

BERNIE better NOT use my info without my permission. I will call SPAM and complain about him. trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #90

Anyone who sends my info to the Sanders campaign will get theirs sent to the Scientologists LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #95

Does that include the DNC? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #98

Don't be dense; I was clearly referring to the practice by individuals described in the OP. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #100

Oh the horror!!!!! No one has ever done that before. Except for the Autumn Apr 2019 #96

LOL, calling it the "BERN" app doesn't bring back ANY bad memories from 2016, does it? * MH1 Apr 2019 #99

And, he keeps reminding.. Cha Apr 2019 #102

yeah, I've received his crap a couple of times. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #101

If anyone puts me on a list for Bernie and I find out about it Indygram Apr 2019 #103

You know, you could just go the old fashioned route and ask people to *talk* to others Cha Apr 2019 #104

I didn't think my opinion of BS could get any lower and then I read about this Indygram Apr 2019 #105

Stay classy. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #106