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In reply to the discussion: Nina Turner Blasts Audience From Black Women's Forum for Booing Senator's MLK Comments [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)156. So tell us, why didn't any other candidate have this reaction to this audience?
Last edited Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:57 AM - Edit history (1)
No one can seem to answer that. Inconvenient truth?
Bernie was making his case by his history as to why he would be on the side of African American Women but was never able to finish because of a few hecklers that just couldn't handle that inconvenient truth.
You said that no one could know what Bernie was going to say, but now you know what he was thinking?
"A member of the audience asked Sanders What do you believe is the federal governments role to fight against the rise of white nationalism and white terrorist acts, and how do you plan to lead on that in your first year as president?
Sanders delivered a lengthy response that wandered from a critique of Trumps demagoguery to policies like immigration reform and Medicare for All, but did not address white supremacist terrorism. It was during this reply that the audience began to jeer.
Moderator Amy Allison had to refocus Sanders, telling him The core of the question is about, as president what would you do with the rise of white supremacist violence, to protect our communities?
You know, as somebody who, I know I date myself a little bit here, but I actually was at the March on Washington with Dr King back in 1963, Sanders replied, to audible groans from the audience, and as somebody who actively supported Jesse Jacksons campaign, as one of the few white elected officials to do so in 88, I have dedicated my life to the fight against racism and sexism and discrimination of all forms.
Sanders delivered a lengthy response that wandered from a critique of Trumps demagoguery to policies like immigration reform and Medicare for All, but did not address white supremacist terrorism. It was during this reply that the audience began to jeer.
Moderator Amy Allison had to refocus Sanders, telling him The core of the question is about, as president what would you do with the rise of white supremacist violence, to protect our communities?
You know, as somebody who, I know I date myself a little bit here, but I actually was at the March on Washington with Dr King back in 1963, Sanders replied, to audible groans from the audience, and as somebody who actively supported Jesse Jacksons campaign, as one of the few white elected officials to do so in 88, I have dedicated my life to the fight against racism and sexism and discrimination of all forms.
So switching his non-answer to talking about his past was "setting the stage?" Why not a simple, no-brainer response like, "I will restore the Homeland Security Domestic Violence Unit that Trump disbanded. That is the first line in stinging plans by these groups before they can carry them out."
Why would he need "setting the stage" that "he would be on the side of African American Women" with a reciation of his history after a long rambling non-answer? Wouldn't listening to them and respectfully answering their questions do that? Do you think that they were incapable of thinking that he "he would be on the side of African American Women?"
It was obvious he hadn't prepared for their most predictable questions - trying to tapdance back to his bullet list stump speech, and clearly wasn't appreciative of what an opportunity that they were giving him. In fact the opposite - he acted like he was granting them the opportunity to listen to his stump speech in person.
He blew off their question with the status quo politician sidestep, got defensive when they vocally expressed frustration,
and you want to portray him a "victim" of a bunch of rude WOC, who clearly just "couldn't handle" someone who is talking about his civil rights history?
Then this he sends out a WOC to say with a straight face to a cheering, overwelmingly white crowd, that the group of WOC were "booing his civil rights record," and his white supporters defend that as not being a very bad look, at least?
Think about it, Joe. Just think about the inconvenient truths that you are desperately trying to avoid.
Kandice Webber, Houston Rising, explained what they needed to hear from him clearly enough.
If economics is Bernie Sanders sweet spot then you need to talk about economics as it pertains to black women and he didnt do that. One of the things that were fighting for right now is to stop feeding off the scraps of the white mans table. Bernie Sanders gave us scraps today; we came for a feast.
He's stepped in it, and instead of acknowledging that he did and wipe it off his shoe, he's tracking it all over the rug.
Barack Obama was invited to a candidates' forum on health care reform in 2008. He declined because he didn't feel he had his policies developed enough to talk about. Sanders does not seem to have that sort of self-awareness or wise campaign counsel - at least that he listens to. But he's not known for his listening skills, which is somehow is considered a virtue by many of his supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Nina Turner Blasts Audience From Black Women's Forum for Booing Senator's MLK Comments [View all]
ehrnst
Apr 2019
OP
Well, she's not a campaign manager who ensures the candidate is briefed and prepared
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#5
i think she is horrible. She spewed tons of hatred on Hillary. .... and she still does to this day
trueblue2007
Apr 2019
#106
i dont think ppl are falling for her rhetoric any more..her anger looks more like whats on the..
samnsara
Apr 2019
#4
So now you want to avoid the answer to the question I asked because the answer was
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#54
You deployed whataboutism "But what about JOE?" So clearly you don't think it's a bunch of crap.
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#92
I see you are trying to somehow tie Sanders to white nationalism or not condemning it
CentralMass
Apr 2019
#111
It is not back in the era.and Sanders also voted for the crime bill. He didn't answer
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#43
They booed him because he didn't answer the question. Joe would have answered the question, ie would
MaryMagdaline
Apr 2019
#86
Oh, please. Sanders got a negative reaction because he didn't answer the question directly. Turner
highplainsdem
Apr 2019
#7
I'm talking about your observation that the audience was "rude" and "disrespectful."
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#62
"Instead of blaming the hosts and the audience for what happened, his campaign needs to take
Cha
Apr 2019
#126
This is the same woman who addressed a rally/town hall a few weeks ago, referring to....
George II
Apr 2019
#9
Last night Cornell West was on Anderson Cooper's show, and he immediately launched....
George II
Apr 2019
#17
When I see BS supporters like Cornell West calling perfectly good Democrats
comradebillyboy
Apr 2019
#89
Some supporters thought it was Bernie because of a strong resemblance in the pics.
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#21
He didn't 'set the stage' he was on the defensive, and gave it instead of an answer...
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#44
I understand that he "annoints Democratic ideas, then presents them to the public."
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#57
Then why were his surrogates etc. irate when John Lewis TRUTHFULLY said, in reference to...
George II
Apr 2019
#20
You might try using John Lewis' words TRUTHFULLY, he wasn't referring to just Selma
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#24
Yes, he said "I never saw him, I never met him." in the 1960s. That's what he said, and....
George II
Apr 2019
#26
The inference taken was that Bernie didn't participate in the 1960s civil right movements.
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#31
And BS likes to "infer" that he was "with" MLK at the 1963 march when, in fact he wasn't....
George II
Apr 2019
#35
Bernie doesn't "infer," he states unequivocally that he was there, and who are you to say he wasn't?
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#42
I never said he wasn't there (in DC), but he certainly among the dignitaries, or....
George II
Apr 2019
#65
This all goes back to the OP and Nina Turner bashing the people at the She the People....
George II
Apr 2019
#76
He acted like he was doing them a favor, so he could tell them what they should be asking about
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#99
Charleton Heston and Mitch McConnell were there on the Mall that day "with MLK," too.
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#98
I know scores if not hundreds of people who were at the March on Washington
StarfishSaver
Apr 2019
#119
Bernie no sooner got the words out of his mouth before some started heckling him, he was
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#130
He was never given the chance, they cut him off as he was speaking to a televised town hall,
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#142
Bernie wasn't finished speaking and the only person to determine that is the speaker unless
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#146
So tell us, why didn't any other candidate have this reaction to this audience?
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#156
What they REALLY slammed Lewis for was saying that he did see Bill and Hillary...
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#32
When Bernie was writing 'essays' in VT, Hillary was in Mississippi going door to door
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#51
I absolutely detest Nina Turner. She's a big reason why, for me, BS is last on the list.
writes3000
Apr 2019
#19
Washington PostAnalysis: Why women of color booed Bernie Sanders at a recent speech
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#22
What neither of them ever say is that there were 249,999 others "with" MLK at that march...
George II
Apr 2019
#27
But having a WOC as his campaign manager seems to be handy for giving him cover
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#100
Oh Nina.. we know you are worried as the polls show your guy losing points in the polls!
Thekaspervote
Apr 2019
#60
He sure didn't think she was useful as a source for what WOC might ask him about
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#82
The world where you're asked about 2020 and you talk about what you did in college in the '60s.
betsuni
Apr 2019
#91
So Nina Turner thought it was a good idea to admonish a crowd full of Black women in Houston
Cha
Apr 2019
#104
The BS team should have put their energy into figuring out how to win a room full of black women
Cha
Apr 2019
#110
"In what world when you mention the fact you were at the March on Washington do people boo that?"
StarfishSaver
Apr 2019
#115
John Lewis/Democratic leaders booed at convention didn't happen/fake news/you're a troll.
betsuni
Apr 2019
#136