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DURHAM D

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63. Not the same thing. nt

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Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:31 AM

Apr 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
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So Sanders is asking his followers to feed other people's names, phone numbers & email [View all] highplainsdem Apr 2019 OP

Every campaign uses databases filled with names Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #1

Yes, I know they can get public records, and also buy or share some databases. But usually even highplainsdem Apr 2019 #3

So you'd prefer databases provided by Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #4

I'd have a very low opinion of any volunteer turning over family & friends' contact info without highplainsdem Apr 2019 #7

So you would prefer the use of commercial Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #9

No, I'd prefer people not give out my information without my permission. What part of that LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #10

The part where every campaign is using Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #12

I've gotten used to them, but that's not the point. It in no way excuses the actions described LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #14

Yes. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #11

Why? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #13

Because what Sanders is doing is VERY likely to result in a backlash and hard feelings toward highplainsdem Apr 2019 #16

Strawman Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #27

Really? dawg day Apr 2019 #60

Obama pioneered this Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #86

Of Course He Won't Share His Info Me. Apr 2019 #83

So when one straw man doesn't work, just switch to another? Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #85

THe Past Is Prologue Here Me. Apr 2019 #87

A Strawman argument is a logical fallacy Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #94

Then You Are Using It Incorrectly Me. Apr 2019 #97

Makes your head spin don't it? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #93

I would be pissed if anyone I know turned over my information without my permission. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #35

Your data is collected all the time. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #43

No, asking a friend or family member is different. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #46

Yep, and saying, "they get your information anyway" is a lame defense. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #70

Yes it is. It gives me hope that Sanders will be out fairly quickly. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #71

+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #76

Very few people have my email address. I do that for a reason. If a friend gives my email away GemDigger Apr 2019 #82

No they don't. We do NOT "know that", right? I've never seen that before, but whatev' George II Apr 2019 #15

Me neither and I have been working on campaigns DURHAM D Apr 2019 #21

Seriously? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #28

So have I and no campaign ever got prior explicet permission from everybody on their ... marble falls Apr 2019 #45

I've worked on dozens of local, district and state wide campaigns - this has NEVER happened.... George II Apr 2019 #57

Yes they do. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #25

Not the same thing. nt DURHAM D Apr 2019 #63

These are heavy handed techniques used BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #2

"Heavy handed techniques used to aggressively peddle something people don't want." Exactly. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #5

It does seem somewhat of a desperate action. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #6

I've been unsubscribing from email messages since the midterms; The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #8

NEXT: "Dear You, Thank You for Joining The Revolution. .... dalton99a Apr 2019 #17

! crazytown Apr 2019 #19

ROFL! highplainsdem Apr 2019 #20

LOL! Cha Apr 2019 #23

More likely .... NYMinute Apr 2019 #62

After 2020 he'll start a "multi-level" marketing company awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #18

The new BernWOW towels NYMinute Apr 2019 #64

Isn't that what Facebook got busted for? ucrdem Apr 2019 #22

Facebook is facing $5B in fines from FTC and is being sued by Canada over C.A. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #58

Sounds like the perfect place to launch a data-mining campaign app. ucrdem Apr 2019 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author McKim Apr 2019 #24

All serious campaigns do this Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #26

Amazing isn't it? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #29

Do you have some proof for this assertion? n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #30

This is standard "Growing your email database!" stuff Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #31

That is your opinion. Those of us who worked Obama's campaign know this is BS Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38

Obama/Biden's campaign pioneered it Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #61

No they didn't. Databases have nothing to do with asking people who work for Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #74

Upthread I linked to an article about Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #32

Thank you. Just getting up to speed this morning. rzemanfl Apr 2019 #34

No shit. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #44

This isn't big data ...not the same. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #40

You are correct. This is, quite decidedly ... small data. mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #77

I worked Obama's campaign twice and was never asked to provide Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36

Everyone was asked to use their campaign app. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #41

How many serious campaigns have you worked on? we can do it Apr 2019 #59

NO THEY DONT. Using MY information without my consent IW WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #91

Obama/Biden pioneered this Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #33

No that is simply untrue. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #37

I linked to the story upthread Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #42

I understand databases. But the Obama campaign did not ask for names from Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #47

In fact the Obama campaigns software Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #50

That is not the same thing. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #51

Actually it was basically the same. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #54

You're right, it's not 'the same'. But it's arguably more nefarious if you think about it ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #78

No offense, I work elections every year... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #48

I guess you didn't like the first article Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #53

Obama doing it doesn't count. Bernie is not Obama. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #72

But but mommy... he started it ... sob sob (nt) NYMinute Apr 2019 #65

Everybody uses databases and harvests information, but... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #49

+1000 Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #52

On the fail scale. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #56

Nope. As I documented upthread Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #55

"Social network data" is still public data. People sign up for stuff and that makes... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #88

Lulzd Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #92

When you refer 5 friends NYMinute Apr 2019 #66

How nice for Sanders' book sales. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #68

Btw, do you have a link for that? Just tried to find one to add here. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #75

My comment was sarcastic. NYMinute Apr 2019 #80

Thanks for explaining that it was sarcasm. Yes, I'd already read about the campaign spending highplainsdem Apr 2019 #81

Bernie has to get rid of them somehow. zackymilly Apr 2019 #107

so when he loses, will he share this w the nominee? mopinko Apr 2019 #69

0% chance of that if his past behavior is any indication. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #73

So now the bros can be even more obnoxious sweetloukillbot Apr 2019 #79

This is a stupid spin. Everyone asks for referrals in business and politics. Pisces Apr 2019 #84

Any friend who supplies my contact information to any candidate MineralMan Apr 2019 #89

BERNIE better NOT use my info without my permission. I will call SPAM and complain about him. trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #90

Anyone who sends my info to the Sanders campaign will get theirs sent to the Scientologists LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #95

Does that include the DNC? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #98

Don't be dense; I was clearly referring to the practice by individuals described in the OP. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #100

Oh the horror!!!!! No one has ever done that before. Except for the Autumn Apr 2019 #96

LOL, calling it the "BERN" app doesn't bring back ANY bad memories from 2016, does it? * MH1 Apr 2019 #99

And, he keeps reminding.. Cha Apr 2019 #102

yeah, I've received his crap a couple of times. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #101

If anyone puts me on a list for Bernie and I find out about it Indygram Apr 2019 #103

You know, you could just go the old fashioned route and ask people to *talk* to others Cha Apr 2019 #104

I didn't think my opinion of BS could get any lower and then I read about this Indygram Apr 2019 #105

Stay classy. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #106