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LongtimeAZDem

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42. By pledging to run as a Democrat, he forfeits any claim of integrity

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 01:37 PM

Apr 2019

"It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."

- Socialist Scholars Conference, New York, April 1990.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders v the Democratic establishment: what the battle is really about [View all] Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP

We need to focus on beating Trump. J_William_Ryan Apr 2019 #1

That's precisely what the primaries are about, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #9

Yes, but where exactly does BS's money come from? lapucelle Apr 2019 #25

About those sources in that article CentralMass Apr 2019 #41

So there is a super pac involved and that super pac is against strengthening the ACA. lapucelle Apr 2019 #49

Its publc information. From the polls that I've read Medicare for all is as or more popular CentralMass Apr 2019 #80

NottaDem disses actual Democrats again. What a surprise. we can do it Apr 2019 #2

Bernie Sanders' three homes, from left to right ucrdem Apr 2019 #3

Of course I may be wrong but I believe you're intelligent enough to make a distinction between Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #7

Can you give an example of where a Democrat expressed or demonstrated such an intention? ucrdem Apr 2019 #8

First of all watoos Apr 2019 #31

What is your point in posting this?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #101

Bernie Sanders is part of the Democratic establishment ? stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #4

No. Jut the DC political establishment. Not Democratic tho. robbedvoter Apr 2019 #77

The "battle" is about whether or not Bernie is a team player. Laelth Apr 2019 #5

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Apr 2019 #10

He got the DNC to change, didn't he? watoos Apr 2019 #32

I don't deny that. That was a positive change, I think. n/t Laelth Apr 2019 #65

Bernie was the first to sign the pledge, the last time I checked Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #68

I suspect that is true. Laelth Apr 2019 #93

I believe that Bernie believes in Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #94

Oh no kidding.. he sees himself as a one man show..not good!! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #70

Bingo. Hence, dumping on audiences, CAP, PP, HRC and requesting "credit" robbedvoter Apr 2019 #78

Bernie's been a career politician for most of his adult life. Maybe he's not a Democrat The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #6

Establishment dem here Politicub Apr 2019 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #12

The battle resides in the minds of Sanders supporters only NYMinute Apr 2019 #13

Exactly this. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #14

Big money influencing politics and policies is only a "conspiracy theory?" Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #16

But it is OK for Sanders? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #23

Open Our Revolution's books NYMinute Apr 2019 #56

The Sanders camp argument basically boils down to Blue_true Apr 2019 #100

Zaid Jilani who wrote this peace BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #15

Jilani is still churning out Hillary hate for The American Conservative. lapucelle Apr 2019 #24

Zaid Jilani? Doesn't he write for The American Conservative? lapucelle Apr 2019 #17

Zaid Jilani has written for publications across the spectrum Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #26

Have Jilani's Hillary hate pieces been confined to The American Conservative? lapucelle Apr 2019 #29

As much as you would love to personalize this, I see nothing on your link Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #34

Really? lapucelle Apr 2019 #51

I read the article but I didn't see anything in there about "Hillary Hate." Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #53

The ideology is decidedly conservative and armchair psychology is hardly most reader's lapucelle Apr 2019 #60

It would've been nice to have at least included the entire paragraph instead of chopping it off. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #62

Few Democrats will ever forget what those attendees did at the convention lapucelle Apr 2019 #73

You can bet John Lewis remembers. GulfCoast66 Apr 2019 #81

Stacey Abrams remembers as well. N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #84

And he's on staff at Greenwald's Intercept fish wrap...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #28

Ahh...that explains a lot. N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #30

Lol grantcart Apr 2019 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author crazytown Apr 2019 #19

Barney Frank said it best: LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #20

+1 for Barney Frank. n/t Laelth Apr 2019 #91

To me, this time around is going to be less about Bernie vs. The Establishment.... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #21

If he's so upset with the way the Democratic Party is and operates, why doesn't he.... George II Apr 2019 #22

He already made the DNC better, watoos Apr 2019 #33

No he hasn't. People like to believe that but it's simply not true. George II Apr 2019 #35

Actually he has. Some people deny it but they are not being truthful. rgbecker Apr 2019 #45

George, it appears that you might be "just trying to influence the American election". lapucelle Apr 2019 #76

No he hasn't; at best, he's weakened our ability to choose a strong candidate LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #37

There you admitted it, watoos Apr 2019 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #59

It's got nothing to do with superdelegates. Why bring that into this discussion? George II Apr 2019 #79

Explain to me what it means watoos Apr 2019 #87

I totally agree watoos. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #38

Because he's proud of not being a Democrat LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #36

That's only one of many similar comments of his. George II Apr 2019 #40

The DNC accepted Sanders because he has good ideas and to keep him from running as an Independent. rgbecker Apr 2019 #47

I couldn't agree more rgbecker. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #64

... SidDithers Apr 2019 #27

Bernie Sanders is the ultimate "Establishment" figure EffieBlack Apr 2019 #39

By pledging to run as a Democrat, he forfeits any claim of integrity LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #42

Running as a Democrat just reinforces Bernie's realism Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #43

No, it's called lying to get what you want LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #44

What precisely do you mean lying about? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #46

He has said, time and again, over and over, that he is not a Democrat, doesn't want to be LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #48

That takes us back to my post #43 Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #50

And if it was a genuine change of heart, would he have switched back to I-VT in 2016? KitSileya Apr 2019 #54

Yeah, he registered to run again as an independent in Vermont, just before he signed the DNC pledge. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #67

If Bernie wins the nomination and G.E. he will govern as a Democratic President. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #72

Generally speaking, no. Laelth Apr 2019 #85

Bernie is speaking of the issues and policies which he and I believe are Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #89

I don't deny that. n/t Laelth Apr 2019 #90

When Bernie does it, it's "realism" EffieBlack Apr 2019 #52

It is realism, when was the last time a third party candidate won the Presidency? n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #55

Let's face it Bernie is a Democrat of convenience NYMinute Apr 2019 #58

This is a slippery slope to throwing our hands up and it becoming 2016 again. YOHABLO Apr 2019 #61

No one does, most of all Bernie, he was the first to sign the pledge, to my knowledge Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #63

I remember back when Ned Lamont watoos Apr 2019 #66

Some Democrats want the Democratic party to address the concerns of this century Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #71

Hmm, warren is one of my picks watoos Apr 2019 #88

if you are dead, in fear of your life, in prison, or abused... Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #92

If Bernie has that weakness, he really should entirely bow out of politics. Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #69

The statement is an implicit interpretation by the author based on Bernie's long held Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #74

Where exactly is the money coming from? N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #83

his real opponent is the Democratic party robbedvoter Apr 2019 #75

Help help I'm being repressed. nycbos Apr 2019 #82

Ahem. Laelth Apr 2019 #86

Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses nycbos Apr 2019 #96

The s-word, socialism, plenty is about that. Interesting points: appalachiablue Apr 2019 #95

I believe the article absolutely nails it Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #97

Thank you Uncle Joe. You are an inspiration. You can take it and you can dish it out. rgbecker Apr 2019 #98

... Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #99