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namahage

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111. The "fact" he would defeat Trump?

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 09:00 PM

Feb 2019

I assume you're basing this on polls where Bernie outpolls Trump?

Because those taking stock in such polls tend to ignore the fact that if Bernie had been the nominee, the actions of everyone involved would have been different.

You think the Republicans wouldn't have made hay of the rape essay, among other things, and made "socialism" the new "radical Islamic terrorism"?

You think they wouldn't have pointed to him being in congress for over 20 years and getting little of note done--in essence, being even more part of the "establishment" than Hillary?

And that's just a few of the things we KNOW ABOUT. Who's to say that the RNC, Trump's campaign, the FBI, Russia, etc. wouldn't have something(s) else up their sleeves, ready to deploy?

And that's just THE OPPOSITION. You think there wouldn't be backlash from Hillary supporters, or even Hillary herself, after losing the nomination twice? Imagine PUMA 2.0, very likely egged on by the same forces behind the supposedly mythical "Bernie bros."

All of these, or even just a few of them, could conceivably give Trump the win--possibly even a popular vote loss as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Sanders Town Hall participants doxxed, harassed by ALLEGED supporters after asking questions. [View all] RandySF Feb 2019 OP

twitter. a pox on humanity in so many ways nt msongs Feb 2019 #1

College bulletin boards, a pox on humanity in so many ways brooklynite Feb 2019 #54

I've seen another thread on here criticizing CNN PupCamo Feb 2019 #2

CNN admitted they were wrong. Uncle Joe Feb 2019 #47

They didn't admit they were wrong, they said this: George II Feb 2019 #94

Well that's literally admitting they were wrong. Uncle Joe Feb 2019 #126

"probably most, if not all, are connected to politics"...link? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #110

According to some here it was all part of a vast conspiracy to kneecap Bernie. BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #3

Apparently they feel Senator Sanders is far too fragile to answer questions emulatorloo Feb 2019 #6

Heh quickesst Feb 2019 #11

God! Already with the divisiveness? 2016 anyone? brush Feb 2019 #105

This seems to be a systemic problem. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #4

"Systemic problem" describes it perfectly. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #25

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #5

Unmitigated bullshit emulatorloo Feb 2019 #8

She had it coming? RandySF Feb 2019 #9

Her comeuppance perhaps. backabby-blue Feb 2019 #34

Frightening. R B Garr Feb 2019 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Cha Feb 2019 #13

This has fuck all to do with Hillary & everything to do with Cha Feb 2019 #15

Ridiculous. honest.abe Feb 2019 #19

It's beyond Cha Feb 2019 #21

Lol. Ok. cwydro Feb 2019 #29

Is this sarcasm? nt backabby-blue Feb 2019 #33

This is a profoundly embarrassing development for Sanders. R B Garr Feb 2019 #7

Bernie is perfectly willing to answer questions.....but, the Russian bots have DU in a frenzy again. irresistable Feb 2019 #12

Just Stop trying to Blame "russian bots" Cha Feb 2019 #14

Stop pretending that people on twitter with #freeassange in their profile represent Bernie Sanders irresistable Feb 2019 #16

You STOP "pretending" "russian Bots" are Calling Cha Feb 2019 #17

I never said that the people who asked questions were Russian bots irresistable Feb 2019 #18

I didn't say you did. Cha Feb 2019 #20

The twitter handle from the article was the one that I looked up. irresistable Feb 2019 #22

It did. What we witnessed up to, including, and after the convention convinced many of us otherwise. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #26

I think that you may have been witnessing a side effect of the Russian bot program. irresistable Feb 2019 #27

Those weren't russian bots at the convention. You need to read up a little more. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #37

Those were people who were angry about the things that the Russian hackers revealed about the DNC. irresistable Feb 2019 #39

Yeah. Sure. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #40

Just reality. irresistable Feb 2019 #41

Exactly.. Always an Excuse.. that No One Cha Feb 2019 #89

the reality based wing should consider taking its blinders off irresistable Feb 2019 #96

Sez you.. who aways has an excuse. Cha Feb 2019 #97

I like Bernie, but the fact that he would have defeated Trump in the General Election haunts me. irresistable Feb 2019 #99

The "fact" he would defeat Trump? namahage Feb 2019 #111

So you imagine that Hillary supporters would have put Trump in the white house... irresistable Feb 2019 #121

I concede that Hillary abandoning the Dems namahage Feb 2019 #127

Actually, most people weren't that aware of Trump's failed businesses or bankruptcies. irresistable Feb 2019 #128

.... lapucelle Feb 2019 #115

Could be part of Glenn Greenwald's crowd. RandySF Feb 2019 #24

I have a hard time distinguishing where Greenwald ends, and Russia begins... irresistable Feb 2019 #28

He is not perfectly willing to answer questions. KitSileya Feb 2019 #30

That's really Skidmore Feb 2019 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author lunamagica Feb 2019 #78

Exactly, Kit.. that's a Myth. Cha Feb 2019 #101

No, he actually isn't. He has a decades-long pattern of avoiding questions both from the press pnwmom Feb 2019 #31

The Bernie hate has grown tiresome. irresistable Feb 2019 #38

Recognizing his severe limitations in the general election is not hate. nt pnwmom Feb 2019 #57

That's why he has the highest home state rating among Senators. Because of his "severe limitations". irresistable Feb 2019 #58

Vermont is a tiny, very rural, very white, very liberal state. It doesn't give any indication pnwmom Feb 2019 #60

It doesn't prove any "severe limitations" either. irresistable Feb 2019 #64

He lost the primary by 4 million votes, and somehow his followers think he'd do better pnwmom Feb 2019 #65

He started with no name recognition but finished with 43.1% of the Democratic primary vote... irresistable Feb 2019 #66

He's already hit his maximum. There's no reason to think Hillary voters will choose him pnwmom Feb 2019 #67

I saw a poll where Bernie was the top second choice of supporters of about six of the top candidates irresistable Feb 2019 #69

In the real world, Hillary voters won't be switching over to Bernie -- so he won't be getting pnwmom Feb 2019 #72

The world isn't DU....and only 17 million voted for Hillary in the primary. irresistable Feb 2019 #73

Only 13 million voted for Bernie. Most independents are centrists or non-partisan, pnwmom Feb 2019 #74

We will see. It doesn't matter what you or I imagine. irresistable Feb 2019 #76

A majority approves of Social Security, Medicare, etc. but they don't BRAND that as "socialism." pnwmom Feb 2019 #82

Tell me a position of Bernie's that is unpopular? irresistable Feb 2019 #84

Tell me how his BRAND is popular. pnwmom Feb 2019 #86

Can't name one? melman Feb 2019 #88

No. I can't think of a single popular position of his that Elizabeth Warren doesn't share. pnwmom Feb 2019 #92

That's them trying to scapegoat. Cha Feb 2019 #116

Odd reponse to the post about his refusal to answer questions. Pure deflection lunamagica Feb 2019 #79

I've never seen him refuse to answer questions. irresistable Feb 2019 #80

It was pointed out that he has walked out of press conferences when he doesn't like the questions lunamagica Feb 2019 #81

I've never seen that. And I have watched him since he announced his run in 2015. irresistable Feb 2019 #83

Here's him walking out of an interview: betsuni Feb 2019 #91

Wow! That is nasty and inexcusable. Attack Hillary instead R B Garr Feb 2019 #93

Yeah, BS doesn't like any questions.. Cha Feb 2019 #107

All one has to do is literally Google "Bernie Sanders walks out of interview"! betsuni Feb 2019 #132

The video proves the opposite, that he had given him 4 minutes. irresistable Feb 2019 #95

Here's another one, over his Amber Alert vote: betsuni Feb 2019 #134

He clearly explained the reasons for his vote. irresistable Mar 2019 #137

"He doesn't waste his time with reporters who keep asking questions that he has completely betsuni Mar 2019 #138

None of that has anything to do with Bernie. irresistable Mar 2019 #139

LOL betsuni Mar 2019 #140

The weak attacks on Bernie are laughable indeed. irresistable Mar 2019 #141

"Bernie Sanders walks out of interview " Cha Feb 2019 #106

And that's not the only one! betsuni Feb 2019 #133

As IF! Cha Feb 2019 #135

People in Vermont have had decades to watch him. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #129

And they vote him in with 67.32% of the vote. irresistable Feb 2019 #130

It tells me people in VT are willing to put up with stuff that wouldn't impress people elsewhere. pnwmom Feb 2019 #131

What's Tiresome is some trying to scapegoat Cha Feb 2019 #113

Excellent FIND, pmwmom.. It's What the Reality Cha Feb 2019 #112

... lapucelle Feb 2019 #120

Wow. Thanks for posting, lapucelle! pnwmom Feb 2019 #124

Spare me the unmitigated BS leftynyc Feb 2019 #36

Right there with you... SidDithers Feb 2019 #45

I've got to say leftynyc Feb 2019 #48

Thank YOU, leftynyc! Cha Feb 2019 #108

It looks like others have provided links that show your R B Garr Feb 2019 #75

"Behaviors to media" don't decide elections, and anyway... irresistable Feb 2019 #77

No need to quote my words when you've been given links R B Garr Feb 2019 #90

... Scurrilous Feb 2019 #23

BS too busy running around trying to be elected president again?? Amimnoch Feb 2019 #32

Bernie is supposed to have a press conference to react to one person tweeting? irresistable Feb 2019 #42

A press conference is equal to a response of some type? Amimnoch Feb 2019 #43

The point is clear. Responding to a single anonymous tweet is absurd. irresistable Feb 2019 #46

The nerve of us! Amimnoch Feb 2019 #49

Bernie hate is just boring, that's all. irresistable Feb 2019 #51

Yeah, and Outrageous that Democrats are asking him Questions!!! Cha Feb 2019 #100

That is a great tweet Gothmog Mar 2019 #142

It wasn't one tweet RandySF Feb 2019 #103

People criticize other people on twitter, just as they do here. irresistable Feb 2019 #117

It wasn't one person. That was just an example of what was going on..... George II Feb 2019 #118

And we have no idea who they are....but Bernie is responsible for them. irresistable Feb 2019 #119

Oh, Twiiter deleted ProgBlackSmith's account? Cha Feb 2019 #125

Maybe if CNN was honest.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #44

So CNN made people harass questioners online? RandySF Feb 2019 #50

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #52

So there should be no questions about reparations? RandySF Feb 2019 #53

Sure.. I just find it ..... disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #55

I'm sure Bernie handle the town hall just fine RandySF Feb 2019 #56

I thought he handled all the questions.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #61

BS Did "stumble".. that's the Problem. Or else Cha Feb 2019 #123

Seriously? You seriously don't see how 2019 is light years away from 2008? pnwmom Feb 2019 #71

I still don't see how they were dishonest. KitSileya Feb 2019 #59

CNN is what it is.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #62

Well, by several accounts.. BS didn't "handle Cha Feb 2019 #87

Because they weren't.. BS' hyper Cha Feb 2019 #102

Plus, the event took place in Washington DC. Was it expected that there wouldn't be people.... George II Feb 2019 #114

How Was CNN Not Honest in this TOWN HALL with BS? Cha Feb 2019 #122

I've been saying for 3+ years Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #63

The problem with fueling populist rage... CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #68

"Populism is playing with fire" Blue_true Feb 2019 #109

In the current political climate ripcord Feb 2019 #70

Bernie asked his followers to be nice Yosemito Feb 2019 #85

the "follower" on twitter that this article is based on has #FreeAssange in their profile. irresistable Feb 2019 #98

We've only just begun radical noodle Feb 2019 #104

So Bernie didn't do well and they blame others?? Sounds like our President. PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #136