Trump Doesn't Even Know What Greenland Is (w/ Rep. Sarah McBride) The Bulwark Podcast [View all]

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Jan 20, 2026
In his rambling mess of a speech at Davos, Trump confused Iceland and Greenland, and demonstrated that he doesn't understand how NATO works. The infamous draft-dodger also seemed to call Truman and Eisenhower "stupid" for not just taking Greenland after WWII. Nevertheless, his threat to somehow get the island is undermining our international rules-based order. Plus, the secret, imperfect alliance in Congress that is blocking anti-trans legislation, the growing Dem opposition to the DHS funding bill, and the need to fight the trust deficit in the country —and the anger-tainment that is driving it.

Delaware's Rep. Sarah McBride joins Tim Miller.

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:50 Trump’s Davos speech breaks as taping begins
1:12 Why presidential rhetoric matters
3:54 Kids bullied using Trump rhetoric
7:11 Setting up Sarah McBride
7:31 Sarah McBride joins the show
8:41 Trump Greenland and Davos fallout
9:39 Greenland NATO and real world consequences
13:02 An 80 year inflection point and Trump history rants
16:42 Inside the Denmark CODEL
18:32 Economic coercion tariffs and instability
22:27 Why the Greenland gambit fails
23:33 Dog sleds and reality on the ground
24:47 Ad break Trust and Will
26:20 Budget fights DHS and shutdown strategy
27:33 Secret Congress and stopping anti trans riders
30:29 Imperfect allies and coalition politics
37:25 The Axios trans gotcha question
46:18 What McBride has actually delivered
49:46 Faith in democracy and closing argument
51:11 Wrap up