The Way Forward

Bluetus

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22. I agree with you on several levels

Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:25 PM

Apr 24

We certainly have many Americans who can't get concerned about an issue until it affects them personally. And this lack of empathy/foresight is much stronger among Republicans than Democrats. But that just means we have to focus our message more clearly for them. Just about everybody needs a hospital or advanced specialty SOMETIME. We need to help them focus, and that is easier if we can, at the same time, explain a plausible solution that really will make their lives better and also the lives of their neighbors, relatives, friends, etc.

And I also realize there is an "America of the rugged individualist" attitude among many, and that is stronger in the sparsely populated West than in other places. But you know, none of them ever turn away their Social Security, Medicare, small business loans and big infrastructure projects. Even these "rugged individualists" want bridges that are safe, and they need a government that isn't bankrupted by corruption and outrageous spending on useless military gear and adventures. They need a safe food network in order to have demand for their cattle, and so on. They need fair and sustainable plans for water for crops and cattle. They mostly want the same things the rest of us want, but we have been talking past one another.

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Looking at today's Fox News poll [View all] everyonematters Apr 23 OP

Democrats have moved this country forward for almost 100 years Keepthesoulalive Apr 23 #1

STAND FOR SOMETHING, Dems. Bluetus Apr 23 #2

Most people don't care Keepthesoulalive Apr 23 #3

People tend to ignore anything they don't experience. That's why we must learn Bluetus Apr 23 #7

The only things I see Americans respond to Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #8

We must understand the difference between governing and elections Bluetus Apr 24 #9

Real lofty thoughts Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #10

So, let's run straight at the REAL issue Bluetus Apr 24 #16

I agree with your proposals Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #17

Tell me who is presenting bold ideas Bluetus Apr 24 #18

They don't care if you close their hospitals Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #21

I agree with you on several levels Bluetus Apr 24 #22

They want it Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #23

We cannot win them all over, but many are coming around. Bluetus Apr 25 #24

Thank you Bluetus and Keepthesoulalive for your passionately argued dialogue. Ilikepurple Apr 25 #27

During our fight to stop the orange degenerate gerrymandering Keepthesoulalive Apr 25 #28

We are paying the price for 40+ years of no real opposition Bluetus Apr 25 #36

FDR was a transformative president Keepthesoulalive Apr 25 #37

"If you want to compromise with racists, sexists, religious zealots, billionaire bros count me out." Bluetus Apr 25 #38

I don't want my politicians reaching across the isle Keepthesoulalive Sunday #39

our party began abandoning labor in the mid to late 70s somsai Sunday #40

It seems to me that this sort of poll about comgress Klarkashton Apr 23 #4

I don't think it's the issues, I think it's the Congressional Ds showing a lack of spine on the issues. nt in2herbs Apr 23 #5

A lack of imagination. Bluetus Apr 24 #19

Many in our party enjoy not having to pay higher prices for services somsai Sunday #41

For the past decades, a lot of people have been struggling economically. everyonematters Apr 23 #6

How about you get folks to vote for that Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #11

What are we doing - Government shutdowns and gerrymandering. everyonematters Apr 24 #12

We are attempting to stop him Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #13

The gerrymandering is senseless. everyonematters Apr 24 #14

You don't understand Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #15

so you're saying Dems should just lay low Skittles Apr 25 #26

OK. Those are constructive ideas. They need to be formalized into an action statement with some accountability. Bluetus Apr 24 #20

fuck Fox "News" Skittles Apr 25 #25

The policies are not the problem. This is a perennial messaging problem. Scrivener7 Apr 25 #29

It is not a messaging problem. It is a trust problem. The voters give both parties low approval ratings. everyonematters Apr 25 #30

We disagree. Democrats have consistently worked to improve wages but been thwarted by r's. Scrivener7 Apr 25 #31

You can have healthcare, help with childcare and still have trouble paying the rent or buying groceries. everyonematters Apr 25 #32

They have tried and tried, and been thwarted by republicans. If that were the message Scrivener7 Apr 25 #33

As far as I know, when the Democrats were in power, they haven't put it up for a vote since the everyonematters Apr 25 #34

I think we are not really disagreeing. And yes that's true about federal minimum wage. Scrivener7 Apr 25 #35