E. Musk, "Anyone who actually writes software, please report to the 10th floor at 2 p.m. today."

[Botany]

BTW a question for the smart I.T. / DU people. What will happen to Twitter if it has no real time
human type support people ready to go 24/7? Can Twitter "run on its own" through A.I. and the
programs that "run things" which are already installed? Any "moving parts" than need to be oil?

thanx to DUer PSBS

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217388928

[lapfog_1]

1. the server farm or farms that host twitter needs to be maintained

he could, potentially, move it all to the cloud (if it isn't already). thereby offloading the need to keep the IT operations staff.

If they add no new features or need to meet new regulations... he could keep the software stack "static".

What he really needed to keep were the customer service people and the regulatory compliance people. He will soon find that various nations will start banning twitter, thereby making it much less useful.

As for using an AI to run it... perhaps... I don't know what it would take to train the model to operate the service.

Not going to happen overnight.

Eventually he needs the software engineers to adapt the current stack to new technology... and to add features or implement new rules or whatever.

[Ray Bruns]

2. I think some astronauts tried that with a HAL 9000 computer once.

It didn’t end well.

[BootinUp]

3. Any database needs maintenance.

So they need trained db people to keep it running good. I am a self taught db programmer.

[WarGamer]

4. Much ado about nothing.

Apparently SpaceX Software Engineers have been on the ground in Twitter HQ since Day 1.

The servers and AI are "not" lonely and abused.

[Birdfeeder]

5. The End is Near

Twitter is going the slow implosion route. Too bad, it had been a valuable link to others.

[gulliver]

6. I'd be surprised if a ton of software engineers aren't drooling over Twitter jobs opening up

The very best software engineers have no risk of unemployment. Would they take a (non-)risk on remaking Twitter with Elon Musk, maybe for some ground floor options? Yeah, I think so. Twitter folds and they have yet another great story in their career. It succeeds and they're rich.

[ZonkerHarris]

15. because life's too short to spend it working for a tempermental asshole

[viva la]

7. I saw all the Elon fanboys saying that everyone is now going to flock to Twitter and apply

and they'd be 10 times better than any of the actual employees.

So I went to "Twitter/careers" and tried to apply, or just look at the jobs. Nothing. Not one single search term resulted in a list of jobs. It's like no one has updated the database maybe?

Anyway, I don't think there's a big rush to apply to elon, but if there is, they'll be frustrated. Can't apply.

[TlalocW]

8. Everything need maintenance

Software, hardware, databases, etc. All the Elon simps crowing about how Twitter is still working just fine don't understand and don't want to understand that.

[usonian]

9. Breaking the laws of physics is way more fun than breaking labor laws or covid restrictions. HOW?

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OPERATIONS ARE VERY COMPLEX.
article
Elon Musk vs. Physics

Twitter is a complex web of network infrastructure, data ingestion, data storage and content delivery systems! A true tour-de-force of CS and Network theory hidden behind a deceptively simple mobile app interface. The engineers at Twitter have made this look easy for a over a decade, its anything but!

High stakes situations and industrial scale solutions are poor bed fellows.

Behind the pleasant and clean mobile interfaces of modern social media lays a dark world full of dangerous content and bad actors. Out side of government hackers and accidental cascading failures are some of the worst human behavior imaginable. Modern websites must be built to withstand massive liability risks due to the constant ways that users participate on these sites.

Failure to appropriately respond to disturbing user submitted content and forged surveillance requests could have dire consequences for the business its customers and especially advertisers. The departure of Twitter’s SRE teams poses a grave liability threat to the business which could easily cause government intervention.

Network diagrams at the site.
This is ALL more complex than a brake job.

And by the way TWO THINGS.

1. Programmers do not maintain complex networks and databases.
2. Programmers count starting at zero, so they will end up on the ELEVENTH FLOOR.

On Edit, I used the link tag and the link works. DU hiccups when the link has an @ sign in it, and probably more things.
DU4?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Counting from Zero works fine in European buildings. They have Ground floor, then 1, then 2, .... nt

[chriscan64]

14. I have noticed that about complexity in building a site.

To make a simple interface doesn't reduce complexity, it pushes it all to the back end. The amount of complexity is baked in.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Did anybody show up?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. As to your question, there are two Twitters

The first Twitter is the hardware, network and the software that runs it. The "tech stack". That runs well because it is tuned and basically just ticks over.

The second Twitter is the one that Musk broke. With fewer fact checkers and moderators, he will achieve his primary goal of more leniency for authoritarian speech. That part of Twitter worked about as well as modern understanding of social moderation allows. It takes people, though, and it doesn't just tick over. It requires constant care and tending.

Thus by breaking the social contract that allowed Twitter to be the meeting place where opposites would debate (primitively) and journalists break news and people would "come out", etc., Egoloon has opened the gates to the town square to a herd generating tons of bovine excrement.

No wonder advertisers are fleeing the town square as fast as their millions of desirable eyeballs are fleeing it.

[usonian]

16. As techies depart, the tech stack, totally unfamiliar to Tesla "imports" may break.

I fixed the link to the article above
https://democraticunderground.com/100217389067#post9

Short:
article
Elon Musk vs. Physics

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. It will break. But he has lots of time to shore it or even re-engineer that. No need for 16 hr days.

[Quixote1818]

13. While this is an issue for him, the loss of advertisers is by far his biggest issue

They can probably keep it rolling with a skeleton crew but if it continues to lose money then he will have to ditch it sooner or later.