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Floyd R. Turbo
(32,913 posts)
spanone
(141,617 posts)FREE HEALTHCARE???? BULLSHIT
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Woodswalker
(549 posts)spanone
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RobinA
(10,478 posts)who paid me $3.65 and hour, deducted $80 a month for my BC/BS. Which paid 80% of my medical bills. Thankfully, I was young and healthy.
sinkingfeeling
(57,835 posts)
highplainsdem
(62,148 posts)
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(179,005 posts)What free healthcare?
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AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)
Ptah
(34,122 posts)
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)May need to paint with a substantially smaller brush.
badhair77
(5,182 posts)So glad you did, however.
Tickle
(4,131 posts)on free healthcare, cheap college and starting families in our 20s? Those we trying times, beautiful memories but still trying times.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)can't---it's not true.
"Some"? Yes.
"Too many?" ONE is too many.
There's enough ageism and inter-generational finger pointing. That serves those who prosper from our division.
scarletlib
(3,568 posts)Yes state colleges were affordable.
The economy wasn’t all roses and hearts. Terrible inflation under Nixon, Ford. Rising interest rates so housing became less affordable. OPEC was formed. There was a severe gas shortage due to blockade. Lines at gas pumps. Gas prices continued to rise even after blockade ended.
Reagan came in and things got worse. His tax cuts eliminated a lot of tax breaks for ordinary people. Business started eliminating pensions. Wages became stagnant. Social Security Payroll taxes went up & the retirement age increased for Boomers (although slowly). Unemployment rose.
Yes, good times.
Boomer generation just like all the others. Some are rich. Some are selfish and think only of themselves. Some are good. Others are evil. Others just try to survive. The only distinguishing characteristic of the Boomer generation is its large size which does have an effect on the economic, political, etc. life of the country.
MiHale
(13,032 posts)Bullshit mountains so high you can’t see the sky.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... what nobody is buying.
Raine
(31,179 posts)and should all think and feel the same. 
treestar
(82,383 posts)OP is not thinking past that. It may be our experience, but not nonwhite or working class experience.
walkingman
(10,865 posts)I feel lucky to have grown up in the best music era of all time and retired with a pension (rare these days).
It's sometimes easy to forget that in our best days we were vastly outnumbered by the same greedy, racist people that still exist today. The difference is our social circles were more closely connected - it seemed everyone wanted to end the war, smoked weed, and enjoyed the sexual revolution......but that was not the majority....
I am thankful I was part of that era.
panader0
(25,816 posts)
Ferrets are Cool
(22,957 posts)
The biggest difference between now and then is that the tax system was more fair in the 60's. 
jmbar2
(7,989 posts)I've seen this theme cropping up a lot recently on social media trying to pit younger people against boomers. I think it is being planted and stoked by malign forces to try to drive wedges in the U.S. It's not a coincidence that it reappears in multiple places on a regular basis.
Boomers graduated to multiple back-to-back recessions, repeated layoffs, corporate "downsizing", rightsizing, outsourcing, the Middle East gas crisis, yada yada.
- There was no free healthcare.
- I worked shit jobs for decades before I could afford to buy a home.
- Most of the "Boomers" I know are like the people on DU - committed to democracy, equity, and fairness.
Yes, there are MAGAs too, but I don't think it's a function of age cohort. They are all ages.
Don't take the bait.
scarletlib
(3,568 posts)I am a mother and a grandmother. I care deeply about their future welfare and for all young people. I agonize over the fact that so little has been done to alleviate climate change, etc.
The Boomers probably didn't vote Reagan in, and the problems we have now that are due to his and his following Republicans can be laid on older generations.
Also the OP is limiting self to white middle class. Social issues have advanced and stayed that way and recent backsliding is not due to boomers as such as to right wingers who could be of any age.
RobinA
(10,478 posts)that was being laid off in droves from good paying steel mill jobs in the late '70's and early '80's might take exception to your white middle class carve out. I am not one of them, but I went to college with and among them. Lotta those people didn't do so well.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I think of it that way as my grandparent generation worked in factories and then their children went to college - they were middle class by then.
My carve out is what I grew up in, suburban white middle class who worked in professional jobs.
RobinA
(10,478 posts)in the Pittsburgh area the parents of many of my peers were steel workers and what I would consider to be middle class. They usually encouraged their kids to go to college because they saw what was coming. They had two nice cars, went places in the summer, visited Kennywood, could afford things that weren't absolutely essential. They lived comfortably and have been able to afford comfortable retirements. When the bottom fell out it didn't just take out steelworkers, but all the surrounding industry that served steelworkers - and that includes service industries. Accountants can't do business if their clients don't have any money to account for. I wanted to stay in the area after college, but unemployment in May 1980 was like 15% and climbing. That's why stuff like the OP gets me going.
lark
(26,081 posts)There are many who have survived with our morals and ethics and values firmly in place. Yes, there are some of our generation who sold out to the money or crazy folks, way too many IMO, but not all. Some of us have hung in there and stayed true, people like me and my sister and her partner for 34 years and my husband and friends. In fact, 2 of my friends who were basically apolitical now vote Dem religiously because they have seen the damage tfg caused and wanted to cause even more. So, all is not lost.
calguy
(6,154 posts)I'll let you in on a little secret.... Boomers aren't the only generation voting these days, am I right?
The majority of us are not MAGAts, and we all didn't grow up rich.
Health care was never free, and not all us could afford cheap college.
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)That is if you actually care
Cattledog
(6,656 posts)
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)an "evil b***tard", and who despised RWers.
David, in his own words, which are in italics below:
Ah, jeez.
—because you’ve been calling him out as a con man for as long as he’s been in the public eye. You and I had this conversation 10 years ago about him, before he was even on the radar, politically. Does it feel like he’s ever going to have to pay the piper?
Yes. Probably because he was sloppy. He and his cohorts were sloppy in their crimes. So, he will, probably. I don’t have confidence in the legal system, because it’s too easy to buy your way out of things, and I think that he believes that, too, and that he’s going to be OK. But the Southern District of New York, they know who he is. They know he’s been taking Russian mob money and laundering it into New York real estate for probably 30 years. They’ve watched him do it; they know where the money is coming from. So, the folks at the Southern District may nail him. There are certainly people in there that want to nail him, and they’ve got the goods on him. Whether or not he can buy his way out, that’s a tough one to call.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/david-crosbys-had-it-with-evil-bastard-trump-and-the-rotten-music-industry
The real reason they do that is because they’re frustrated that their side doesn’t have any entertainers — at all. They’ve got that one right-wing guy who is so terrible, but I can’t think of his name. All of us think that they’re idiots, and that frustrates the hell out of them.
So you don’t have much respect for Ted Nugent, for example?
That’s the guy! How embarrassing is it to have that be your guy?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/david-crosby-trump-new-songs-a-csny-reunion-1081441/
Facts and science. They're like magic, only they're real.
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electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)from Roisin Ni Fiachra:
So you don’t have much respect for Ted Nugent, for example?
That’s the guy! How embarrassing is it to have that be your guy?
Baaaahahahahaaaaaaaa! 😄😄😄
GusBob
(8,249 posts)Or one of their groovy doped up idols
When you’re high all the time the music is far out man
niyad
(132,441 posts)
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(4,280 posts)GGoss
(1,273 posts)I was born smack dab in the middle of the "Boom", 1955.
I wanted to go to Woodstock, but my mom wouldn't let me. (I was in the 8th Grade)
As far as "selling out"...
I watched the movie 'Woodstock' the other day, and I wondered about what had happened to all those young (at the time) people.
Not the David Crosbys, or Country Joes, or The Family Stoneses... but the other 499,950 or so people who attended.
It occurred to me that for many, it was fashion. Not just the clothing and the art of the time, but fashionable just to be there. To be seen being there.
BUT... for many others... it was philosophy.
It was about challenging and changing the status quo, the world, and themselves.
And you know what ??? They did all of those things.
Was it perfect, no. Was it significant, without question.
And as JFK might have said "...the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans..."
Good luck to all the future generations, truly.
themaguffin
(5,221 posts)
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)onenote
(46,142 posts)First, your generalizations about the baby boom generation are crap. I know its not polite to say so, but if you want the members of the baby boom generation to die out, you have the power to contribute to that result in your own hands).
Second, the baby boom generation is generally thought to encompass those born between 1946 and 1964. During that time, there have been a dozen recessions, ranging in duration from 8 months to 18 months. Most of them have occurred after baby boomers entered the work force.
Third, as for the age at which people marry and have children, those ages were higher for baby boomers than the generations that preceded them and has continued to increase. Why? In considerable part because women were given opportunities in the workplace that were previously denied them. And what generation is responsible for giving women these greater opportunities? Right. The baby boom generation.
Fourth, the typical first time home owner in 1981 (when the oldest baby boomers were 35 and the youngest were 17, was 29. There was a decline in the age of first time home buyers from 1940 - 1960, when none of the baby boomers were yet of home buying age. It has steadily increased since then.
Finally, if you think being a baby boomer was all fun and games, you must have been asleep during the Vietnam War, which left tens of thousands of baby boomers dead, disabled, emotionally traumatized. Others fled the the US or went to jail. And hundreds of thousands worked tirelessly to end that war.
Torchlight
(6,830 posts)Good luck.
delisen
(7,366 posts)by subsuming them into some silly generational construct. The gains in human rights did not drop from the sky like manna from heaven.
If you personally feel you did not do enough it is not too late to act righteously.
raccoon
(32,390 posts)never had any free healthcare.
You must be one of those boomers that were extremely lucky but most of them weren’t. Who had a father who worked at a union job and your family didn’t have to pay a cent for medical care. And a salary that allowed your family to have a middle class life style.
Lots of boomers weren’t so lucky. Especially those who were POC or those who didn’t have a father.
llmart
(17,622 posts)Just another unsubstantiated bit of crapola to try to blame an entire generation for the woes of today.
You may not know this but DU is probably mostly boomers.
FrankTC
(262 posts)There are a number of books and studies on this topic. I looked into some of it some years ago, thinking that it can’t be true that we boomers are a generation of greedfreaks and me-firsters who ruined things for everybody coming after us. I recalled my years as an undergraduate in the 1960’s, with a liberal campus culture and a progressive agenda. What I found on looking into the question was depressing and disappointing. I guess at some level I don’t believe it, but there’s a case to be made that boomers overall have indeed been the harbingers of the death of the New Deal and the champions of neoliberalism. It’s probably not true that boomers are solely responsible for the decline. After all, Ronald Reagan became governor of California in 1967, and we didn’t elect him. Proposition 13, the California tax revolt, was passed in 1978, and we didn’t pass it. We were not the dominant voting bloc back then. But since then, over the years, it does seem like things have gotten more difficult for most people. For example, when I was an undergraduate I could pay tuition and mostly support myself with a part-time job. My grandkids cannot. They tell me that the boomers grabbed the benefits and ran (I think they’re talking about Social Security and Medicare as well as affordable education). And I agree that there has been a general retreat from the idea of the commonweal. At least until recently, when we are seeing green shoots of social democracy rising here and there from the Republican wasteland.
EYESORE 9001
(29,732 posts)
ananda
(35,145 posts)The boomers I knew growing up were so great!
But now... not so much.
snowybirdie
(6,687 posts)To the correct side in the 70's and never looked back! Think it was Kent State. Don't paint us all with that brush please. Would never go back there.
Sneederbunk
(17,494 posts)
BannonsLiver
(20,595 posts)
Emile
(42,289 posts)putting down Trump and MTG.
highplainsdem
(62,148 posts)And I link to two earlier threads about him in that OP, with the earlier of those two threads also mentioning his view of politics. He never stopped being a liberal.
Woodswalker
(549 posts)Healthcare for good comprehensive coverage in the 70s cost 2 dollars a week out of my paycheck, so there's that. I can't even hang out with people in my age group anymore (60s) because after hello the conversation almost always goes to Damn Immigrants that Biden is letting in, Giving em Free Healthcare, or one of my favorites "Ah Kids Today" or their coming for "Our Guns" or their coming for "My Lightbulbs" or now I think it's Gas Stoves, or they're letting men in the ladies room or whatever the fuck. Job opportunities were endless in the 1970s. Hardest part was deciding who to work for, great paying jobs you could start a family on with only a highschool degree, Litton Industries, Grumman Aerospace, Sperry, IBM, NCR to name a few and the 100s of subcontractors who supplied them, almost all with "pensions" and free Healthcare, great Unions.
To say none of this is true is fuckin ridiculous, without Boomers there would be no Trump, no Desantis, no Mitch McConnell. Certainly not the minorities or younger generation keeping the GOP strong.
Shit young folks have little to no chance of owning their own homes anymore, let alone keeping the ones their parents have.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)
GGoss
(1,273 posts)How is pitting Generations against one another the same, or different, from Ageism?
If you have personal regrets, that's your prerogative.
But it's kinda hard of keep a coalition of allies focused and together when you throw a turd into the punch bowl.
niyad
(132,441 posts)morning.
GGoss
(1,273 posts)Namaste
Celerity
(54,410 posts)Go search student loan debt forgiveness threads and/or rando avocado toast snark, and or the evergreen 'young people don't vote' despite us (I am a very late Millennial, a Zillennial (a micro gen of those born 1992/3 to 1998 or so) if you wish to use what I self-identify as, I was born late 1996, so right on the cusp of 2 gens) having record or near record turnouts for the last 3 elections, etc etc.
GGoss
(1,273 posts)A 1945 Boomer is different form a 1965 Boomer, I suppose.
Using music: A 1945 Boomer might be into Doo Wop and Elvis. Me... Beatles Forever. Not sure how a 1965 Boomer might identify music-wise.
But I'm here to learn, so any suggestions (music-wise) are welcome.
Celerity
(54,410 posts)Boomers are those born in 1946 and then up to the end of 1964.
Gen X 1965 through 1980
Millennial 1981 through 1996
Gen Z 1997 through 2012
Gen Alpha 2013 through probably 2028 (if the now pretty universal '16 year to a gen' duration is accepted for Alphas)
Micro Gens:
Gen Jones 1958 (some say 1956) to 1964 (some say 1966)
Xennials (Carter Babies in the USA) 1977 to 1980 (some say 1982)
Zillenials (or Zennials) (me as I am 1996 born) 1992/93 to 1998
I think something will have to be delineated for Covid kids who were in kindergarten to high school when Covid hit, but that is such a long span for a micro gen
GGoss
(1,273 posts)I always thought it was 20 year chunks. I stand corrected. Good to know.
Defs here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2022/09/02/what-years-gen-x-millennials-baby-boomers-gen-z/10303085002/
Celerity
(54,410 posts)The pick two late Millennials (what I call Zillennials), Hailey Baldwin-Bieber and Bella Hadid (I am born in between the two of them) and call them Gen Z, lolol
A lot of the confusion is that up until 2012-2016 or so (it's hard to pick the tipping point) 1995 was the cut-off year for Millennials used by some. But then the 16 year rule started to be really reinforced and 1996 became the widely accepted last year of the Millennial gen.
I have a definite affinity for 1990/91 to 1996/1997 borns, (especially those born 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1995), as I skipped multiple years of school and started uni right before I turned 15, so I am used to being around people 2 to 5 or 6 years older than me (as many didn't start uni right away out of high school or 6th levels, they took a gap year or two as well) and having them as some of my closest friends.
I see a large difference between the 2001/2002 (in the Gen Z reddits so many from 2001 and 2002 and onward are such pricks to be honest, at least about the way they shit on Millennials) and later borns and people born in the 1990s (1991 to 2000, especially 1998 and before borns, thus 1998 is a valid (IMHO) boundary cut off for Zillennials)
I also have multinational perspective on this, as I was raised in London (and Hong Kong for a short time as well), but also went to some uni in the US (in Los Angeles, where I was born, I am the only US citizen in my fam, but I left when I was a toddler), now live in Sweden, and have travelled all over the world for most of my life.
GGoss
(1,273 posts)
treestar
(82,383 posts)serves only the right wing.
chowder66
(12,245 posts)niyad
(132,441 posts)verifiable facts from legitimate sources.
Woodswalker
(549 posts)niyad
(132,441 posts)turtle is from KY.
Nice try, though.
nini
(16,830 posts)Not everyone was doing that well.
This generation crap is ridiculous.. There's good and bad people in every generation and history shows things cycle through over time.
Such a tired old blame game.
Torchlight
(6,830 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 20, 2023, 01:49 PM - Edit history (1)
I believe it's just a desire on the part of many to understand your assertions, your generalizations, and hopefully make sure you're not simply projecting a bad morning onto your peers.
It does seem at odds though with your OP about attending a high school party with a group of teens. Maybe that and the odd syntax are the disconnects I'm failing to grasp.
treestar
(82,383 posts)That's not my experience with my 60s age mates. Plenty of liberals.
RobinA
(10,478 posts)your life experience is so narrow. Maybe branch out from people who went to work for Litton, Grumman, Sperry, IBM or NCR. I think that's the flaw in your lens. Me, I graduated from college in 1980 with a degree in social work. None of my friends voted for Trump or worry about their guns being taken away. I was 50 before I got a job with a pension, and I did work for a corporation once. Didn't even get a 401K match at that place. Many Boomers are in pretty much the same position as I am, many worse.
onenote
(46,142 posts)90 percent of Trump's base are from the Baby Boom generation?
That is a lie that would command the respect of George Santos.
electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)... to our liberal values to through all these decades.
Lots of us stayed true, as you can see here. Stop the overgeneralization!
Free healthcare? 😮
I started paying Bluecross Blueshield in my 20's.
Sorry, though that you encounter so many boomer conservatives!
2naSalit
(102,798 posts)If you're the Nelson family or the Cleavers. The rest of us ripped our families apart trying to keep up with the Jones' clawing our way up some socially constructed ladder of success while the privileged were always on a conveyor belt driven by our blood, sweat and tears... oh, and all that on top of our contribution to the greater good through taxes.
The pressure on achieving "success" has been such that maintaining or even achieving what we claim to be or aspire to be is also destroying us in numerous ways.
I think all those pissed off boomertrumpers are mad they didn't end up millionaires like they thought they would be because they never had a chance but were easily led to believe that their opportunities had been taken from them by the government and given to minorities.
highplainsdem
(62,148 posts)Which is a more polite way of saying I agree with Floye R. Turbo.
Woodswalker
(549 posts)that pretty much amounts to 90% of Donald Trump's base. Sure I know we have some progressive open minded folks in our demographic but let me tell you, you're the minority. And I live in NY where we probably have the highest amount of Boomers who happen to be Dems. Think I'm exaggerating about America's Boomer problem then visit Florida or just about any red state and see for yourself
RobinA
(10,478 posts)tarring everyone with a very broad brush. If I walk into redder than red north central PA, the state I live in, I'm going to be tripping over MAGATs of all ages, they aren't just Boomers. The young kids of Potter County, PA are not trending Democratic.
onenote
(46,142 posts)You say: 90 percent of Trump's base is made up of baby boomers.
Here's what the actual data shows:
In 2016, 50% of the voters born during the baby boom era preferred Trump over Clinton and in 2020, that number had grown to 51% (but the number voting for Biden had climbed to 48% from 46% favoring Clinton).
Meanwhile, 48% of voters born before 1945 ( pre-baby boom) preferred Trump in 2016 and in 2020. And while only 43% of Gen X preferred Trump in 2016, that number was up to 48% in 2020; similarly, Trump support from Millennials grew from 31% in 2016 to 39% in 2020.
So it appears that support for Trump has grown faster among Gen X and Millennials than among Boomers. And if you can figure out how these numbers translate in Trump's base being made up 90% of Boomers, you must have been one of George's top students.
PS -- For every age grouping, a majority of New York voters (statewide, not just city) preferred Biden over Trump.
PPS -- And even in red Florida, Trump had the support of over 50% of voters between 30 and 50 years old -- voters who aren't baby boomers. And even among voters older than 50 (which included some pre-boomer voters and some Gen X voters) his support was no higher than 55% and Biden was the choice of 45% of voters. So not even 90 percent of his base in Florida was Boomers. Unless you learned math from George.
Ms. Toad
(38,641 posts)When 30% of the age group least likely to support him voted for him.
So yes, you are exaggerating. Nowhere near 90% of Trump's base are over 65.
niyad
(132,441 posts)edisdead
(3,396 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 20, 2023, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)
But I will say that it is amazing how many boomers SEEM to have sold out over the years. Note: I am not lumping any one individual (including you reader) into that scenario. However, if they didn’t invent the phrase “as you get older you become more conservative”, then they sure as shit popularized it.
But it is wrong to paint with that large of a brush, and with that said I cannot count high enough to illustrate how many times a boomer has told me “I don’t have enough experience to know what I am talking about”, or “you don’t know how hard we had to work to get what we had”, or all the other bullshit. Now I don’t know who had it worse or not, but I can tell you the “uphill both ways” bullshit wears thin on me when we are talking about TODAY. And what people are dealing with today. This right of passage of “you don’t know nuthin cuz you didn’t suffer like I did” just mires everyone in the muck.
It sucks and it is stupid and it is designed to keep is from getting anywhere.
RobinA
(10,478 posts)of this "sell-out" thing is a misconception that all Boomers were liberals. All Boomers were not hippies, war protesters, or long-haired freaky people. That's a media invention. Many supported the Vietnam War, and in fact, continue to argue that it was justified and could have been won. The counterculture got the media attention then because it was a new thing (which the media loves for obvious reasons), not because it encompassed the entire generation. In the '80's the non-counterculture Boomers started to gain more attention because Reagan ushered in a shift to more conservative values, so then we heard about Boomers going into business and making zillions. NOW Boomers are all conservatives according to the OP and many others. It was always, with some overlap, two very different sets of people. Your average Boomer hippie freak is not now running Wall Street.
nini
(16,830 posts)
Free healthcare? buying homes in their 20s? Not down my way buddy.
Spazito
(55,500 posts)Response to Post removed (Original post)
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MineralMan
(151,269 posts)I'm a boomer. I don't fit your description at all, frankly.
You are over-generalizing, I believe. Yes, indeed.
Ms. Toad
(38,641 posts)I want some of whatever you're smoking.
I didn't even have health insurance until I went to college. When (100%) out of pocket health care got too expensive for my parents, and they were still unable to buy insurance in their own, they turned the family farm into a corporation, with my father's cousin - to get access to health insurance which would cover catastrophic expenses. They paid 100% of the premium, and 100% of the costs until the costs reached the limit for catastrophic coverage to kick in.
So it is simply wrong that the boomerr generation, as a general rule, had free healthcare (even is you consider partial premiums and small copays "free" )
And, guess what, those rural folks who - as a general rule, had no access to health insurance - are the deepest red parts of the country. So no, they never had access to the free health care that you apparently did. Their experience was that you paid your own bills. If you couldn't manage, you turned to neighbors to help, but ultimately, if the health care disaster was large enough, you literally lost the farm or died.
RobinA
(10,478 posts)What free healthcare? I took the first job I could get after college just to have healthcare because I was off my father's policy the minute I graduated. And it wasn't free. Despite having a master's degree I have never worked at a job that allowed me to buy a house. The economy sucked big time in 1980 when I left college. No one I know who doesn't work for state of federal government has a pension. I have my current job, which pays decently, finally, because I searched for a job where I would have a pension since I couldn't possibly save enough for retirement that included a roof over my head. I've been laid off twice in my lifetime.
I am doing OK and many people have it way worse than I do, but people telling me how great Boomers had it should just STFU. My Grandfathers had the best economy the world has ever seen, and they took full advantage.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)
blue neen
(12,465 posts)That's just one of many things incorrect about your post. Somehow, I don't think it was your intent to be correct.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)Handicap laws etc. The list goes on. Speak for yourself.
pwb
(12,669 posts)Again.
area51
(12,691 posts)What an outrageous lie. 
Mysterian
(6,486 posts)Ain't no doubt about that. My brother was one of them.
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)First, stop with the “Boomer” shit. For the record, I am part of that generation, and agree it has made mistakes, as ALL generations have done. But the the term is divisively and derogatorily used now, especially by lumping the “majority” of Boomers into DeSantis and Trump supporters. Put the broad brush away.
Second, my dad was a government employee from the FDR administration through Nixon, and if any sector would have gotten “free” health care then, it would have been government employees — IF that were the case. But it wasn’t, so my family didn’t. I’ve been paying for health care my whole freaking working life. Curious to know how you think it’s been “free,” when Democrats have been making an issue of single-payer for years.
Third, I do agree that education was cheaper — I paid my whole way through college with no financial aid by working. (I worked my ass off, of course, but there would be no way I could do that today.) That is the only thing you seem to be correct about.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,990 posts)The yippies became the yuppies. Not all of them obviously but enough that we ushered in this trickle down, “I’ve got mine, fuck you” mentality. Pretending this didn’t happen is crazy.
onenote
(46,142 posts)For starters, not all boomers were "hippies." Not all boomers opposed the Vietnam War. When the voting age was lowered to 18 in 1972, which allowed those born between 1952 and 1956 (the heart of the baby boom era) to vote, nearly half of them voted for Nixon rather than McGovern.
So save your BS for somewhere else.
GenThePerservering
(3,379 posts)Where did ANYONE get the idea that Boomers were monolithically liberal hippies? WE WERE NOT.
And the majority of Boomers are not 'entitled T-Rump n Desantis worshippers".
Enough bullshit.
Locutusofborg
(580 posts)He was born in 1941, the Baby Boom generation started with births in 1945. As others have already stated, no generation is monolithic. Every generation has progressives, liberals, moderates, conservatives and far right members.
For example, in the most recent elections, exit polls show that 35% of 18-29 year olds voted Republican.
allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)same again. You painted with too broad a brush.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,725 posts)LuckyCharms
(22,648 posts)Father died when I was age 11.
Mom and me.
Not dirt poor, but poor. Had a home, but it was a piece of shit because we couldn't afford maintenance.
Couldn't afford new clothes. Food was sometimes a struggle.
Worked shit jobs 35-50 hours a week to go to college. Mom worked 2 jobs to help pay for my tuition as well. Took me 5.5 years to get my BS degree because I worked so much.
Any medical costs had to be paid out of pocket because we didn't have health insurance, let alone "free" health care. Thank God we dodged major sickness.
Got a good job after college. Everything was rosy for about a decade, until all the jobs became a game of "dodge the layoffs". My job was salaried. Worked anywhere from 40 to 120 hours a week. Ruined my health doing this.
No complaints though, except to say it was far from easy.
OP as written is fucking ageist bullshit.