t or f? President Biden withholding funds from schools with hunting programs

[Marthe48]

I saw this on facebook. I don't trust the post to be true. I googled the topic. The only links were to rw sites. I also checked Snopes, but no story there.

Is this true or false? Thank you

[WarGamer]

1. sounds utterly ridiculous... I'm going with False.

[Marthe48]

15. I hope I can track down a story from a legit news source

I don't count faux, epoch times and others.

I clicked on something called The Gazette, and it said a bipartisan law was passed in 2022 after the gun massacre at Uvalde, the Safer Communities Act. Why is it news 14 months later?

From The Gazette:
"The prohibition went into effect immediately on June 25, 2022, and applies to all existing and future awards under all ESEA programs," the department told the outlet. "The department is administering the bipartisan law as written by Congress."

The specific provision in the act was an amendment to the Elementary and Secondary Education Act that prohibits federal funds from going to programs that "provide to any person a dangerous weapon or training in the use of a dangerous weapon."

[Celerity]

45. looks like it may be true (here is a report from the Congressional Research Service from 2022)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Research_Service

The report:

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12157

On June 25, 2022, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act
(BSCA; P.L. 117-159) was signed into law. In addition to
provisions addressing mental health services, firearms, and
Medicare, the act requires the establishment of a Federal
Clearinghouse on School Safety Evidence-based Practices,
provides additional appropriations for several programs
authorized by the Elementary and Secondary Education Act
(ESEA), and institutes a new ESEA prohibition related to
dangerous weapons. The new clearinghouse and ESEA
provisions are discussed below. For general information
about federal programs that support school safety and
security, see CRS Report R46872, Federal Support for
School Safety and Security.

snip

New ESEA Prohibition Related to
Dangerous Weapons

Section 8526 of the ESEA includes general prohibitions on
the use of ESEA funds for specified purposes. The BSCA
adds a new prohibition to Section 8526 that states that no
ESEA funds may be used to provide anyone with a
dangerous weapon or to provide anyone with training in the
use of a dangerous weapon. The term dangerous weapon
has the meaning given to the term in 18 U.S.C. §930(g)(2):
The term “dangerous weapon” means a weapon,
device, instrument, material, or substance, animate or
inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of,
causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such
term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of
less than 2½ inches in length.

[LeftLife]

2. Biden is a gentleman

He wouldn’t do that. He’s not an authoritarian!

[gopiscrap]

47. welcome to DU

[Hekate]

3. Uhhhh. Because "Hunter"? -- nah, too stupid an accusation for words.

[MiniMe]

4. Facebook is not a reliable news source

[JanLip]

48. You are right

Facebook is filled with wanna-be experts. I know people who have read their crap and believed all of it. Really bad during Covid. I know for a fact some people refused the shot because of it. Caused a little friction in my own family.

Jan

[emulatorloo]

5. Just remember, MAGAs always lie.

[niyad]

6. Just as a matter of curiosity, how many schools have hunting programs?

[underpants]

9. Lots. 2,000

As of 2018, there are reportedly more than 2,000 high-school rifle programs across the United States.[1] In 2015, 9,245 students in 317 schools across three states participated in the USA High School Clay Target League. In 2018, participation had increased 138% with 21,917 students from 804 teams in 20 states.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_school_gun_clubs_and_teams_in_the_United_States

[niyad]

14. Thank you. Had never heard of this before.

[underpants]

27. I hadn't either. I just everyone was gone the first day of deer season

I never went to a school like that but that’s the case where my wife grew up and my folks live now.

[niyad]

28. I went to a number of different schools in different states, but never saw this.

[underpants]

30. Maybe not everyone

but it was noticeable I’m told.

[niyad]

32. It used to amuse me that, about a week before deer season started here,

deer would migrate onto the Air Force Academy, no hunting, and then migrate back whn hunting season was over. Smart deer.

[debm55]

49. In PA, the Monday after Thanksgiving is the first day of deer season. Schools are closed. I have

never taught in a school where hunting leasons were given.

[Bettie]

44. My son particpated in trap shooting while in high school

It's not a hunting thing though, it's a sport.

My kid was really good at it, but he quit because of all the MAGAts. He just couldn't stand the things he heard while he was there.

[obamanut2012]

38. Probably zero, although many still have rifle clubs

Often in conjunction with something like JROTC, etc.

[Ocelot II]

7. I didn't know schools had hunting programs, but it sounds like BS anyhow.

Facebook is not a reliable news source.

[underpants]

10. See below

[obamanut2012]

40. They don't, they have rifle clubs

Think long gun like in the Olympics. Target, skeet, etc. Often in conjunction with something like JROTC.

Not hunting.

[underpants]

8. Yes. High school hunting and archery programs.

The Department of Education is withholding federal funding from hunting and archery programs in schools, citing a bipartisan law passed last year that tightened restrictions around gun purchases in the wake of a deadly school shooting in Texas.

A spokesperson for the Department of Education said that the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, passed in the wake of the massacre at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, requires the department to withhold certain grant funds from archery and hunting programs in schools, according to Fox News.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/education/biden-blocks-schools-archery-hunting-programs-federal-funds?utm_source=gazette.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=csg_news_feed

[mahatmakanejeeves]

11. None other than Yorktown HS in Arlington had a small range in the basement.

That's gone now, but once upon a time, it was there.

[niyad]

16. The examiner?

[underpants]

21. It was that or Fox News or Washington Examiner

Forbes had a story on it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisdorsey/2023/07/31/experts-warn-defunding-school-hunting-and-archery-programs-will-contribute-to-mental-health-crisis/

[questionseverything]

18. Wow, it's been nearly 50 years but I loved archery

[Ocelot II]

23. I did archery in high school PE but it was never described as a hunting program.

Not that I could have hunted anything with my archery "skills."

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

33. The examiner is not a reliable source.

They are a known right wing propaganda site.

[obamanut2012]

41. Rifle clubs, not hunting

[niyad]

12. According to the local fishwrap, funds are beeing withheld under a BIPARTISAN

law passed after the mass execution in Uvalde, tthat restricts funding for programs teaching use of dangerous weapons.

Alas, the only source the fishwrap citedwas faux snooze.

[TwilightZone]

13. It's part of the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act

The only sources I can find at the moment are right-wing, so I'm not going to post them. In short, the Department of Education released a statement that the withholding of funds is related to the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act passed last year.

Edit: source available in this thread: https://democraticunderground.com/100218139369#post8

The Examiner is right-wing but slightly less objectionable than some.

[Marthe48]

19. Thank you

I imagine the 'liberal' sources are covering other news.

[TwilightZone]

22. Or they don't even see it as news.

If it's required by a law passed in a bipartisan fashion, it's not really news. The right is just trying to make it news.

[johnp3907]

17. The Department of Education is withholding the funds.

From the hunting and archery programs, NOT fom the schools WITH those programs. And it's because of a BIPARTISAN law passed last year.
Typical right wing diinformation.

https://gazette.com/news/wex/biden-blocks-federal-funds-from-schools-with-archery-and-hunting-programs/article_a1bba4e7-f85e-5375-8d06-4424f4117d40.html

[Marthe48]

20. I picked that link to read

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[johnp3907]

24. It was the closest thing to an actual news site that came up.

[niyad]

26. See post 25.

[Celerity]

46. see post 45

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218139369#post45

[niyad]

25. Unfortunately, that link is the gazette, the local reichwing fishwrap.

[Marthe48]

29. It is like voting for a bad r or voting for a bad r :)

I wasn't familiar with The Gazette. I am now. Part of the chorus.

I think all of the posts helped me figure this out

[niyad]

31. I wish that I were not acquainted with it. But it has been amusing me lately

that, even when they are giving that waste of trees away at my supermarket, there are almost no takers. The guys who do the give-away have this resigned look on their faces.

[Kaleva]

34. +1

[Voltaire2]

35. obvious bullshit is obvious

[ismnotwasm]

36. I just went on a hunt --I think context is missing

And holy hell those RW sites are disturbing

[Marthe48]

37. That's what I found

and other people noticed, too.

It seemed like it was an especially noticable bash Dems news week, so far. But except for in their own universe, nothing has topped the news about traitor's indictment.

[Mad_Machine76]

43. If they don't outright lie

they sure work hard to distort things into the worst possible light.

[Mad_Machine76]

39. Sounds False

Probably being able to gin up another fake outrage against Biden.

[Marthe48]

42. A bipartisan Safer Communities Act was passed in 2022

Over a year ago. Why bring it up now? Just to whip the r's into a frenzy.

I took riflery classes at OSU in 1970. My Dad had taught me to shoot, so I thought it'd be an easy p/f glass. I had a solid B+. But the coach lost my targets, and said i'd have to do the class over. I didn't have time.

If the r's want to be mad about fewer choices in public school curriculum, how about the overall drop in funding? (thanks r's)