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no_hypocrisy

(55,152 posts)
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 10:58 AM Aug 2023

What is The End Game?

Suppose Trump convictions kept getting appealed until they reach the USSC?

And suppose that even a 5-4 majority overturns his convictions? And without specifically stating so much, the Decision invalidates the core of due process, voting rights, and even the Constitution itself. IOW, what if the USSC almost implies that the Constitution allows Americans to choose another form of government?

And it creates a constitutional crisis.

Where to go for resolution?

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emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
1. The USSC has ruled against him time and time again. And even refused to hear his ridiculous cases.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:05 AM
Aug 2023

They made him turn stuff over to J6 etc, they ruled against his bogus claims of executive privilege all through these investigations.

They don’t care about Donald Trump (except for that wacky Clarence Thomas).

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
3. that is a ridiculous amount of speculation
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:07 AM
Aug 2023

considering mot even one trial is underway yet;

Supreme Court has not been too helpful to Trump this far--I expect appeals will be denied if the prosecutors and judges manage the trials carefully.

calguy

(6,164 posts)
6. As president, Trump had value to the Federalists
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:12 AM
Aug 2023

Now that they've got their judges in place for decades to come, trump is worth nothing to them. They won't lift a finger to now to prevent him from rotting in jail.

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
4. I'm keeping my passport handy & up-to-date..
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:07 AM
Aug 2023

so I can flee to Jamaica and stay with malaise until the crisis is resolved.

usonian

(26,023 posts)
8. End game is to stall, stall until they jury-rig the next election. Pardons galore.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:30 AM
Aug 2023

Well, if the last debacle is any hint, pardon the Goebbels and Goerings and himself, but promise the world.

Misinformation like crazy
https://www.96layers.ai/p/the-2023-guide-to-generative-ai-and
The 2023 Guide to Generative AI and Political Misinformation

JUST VOTE THEM ALL OUT.
Organize.
Spread the word.

TAKE ACTION
https://democrats.org/take-action/

The way to combat misinformation is to speak to friends of sound mind and lay out the simple case.
I posted my version of the case. Perhaps you can make a shorter one (or longer).

https://democraticunderground.com/100217954571
Tell them why you're a Democrat!

Democrats have compassion for others.

• When every person
  a. is guaranteed rights, opportunity, and equity,
  b. can make a good living,
  c. is respected,
  then all benefit and the nation benefits.
• Government invests in its citizens.
• Labor and innovation create wealth.
• Productivity gains are shared with those who are less blessed than others.
• Government is by the people and for the people.
• The legal system protects rights, especially of minorities.
In short: equality, honor and fairness.


The thugs have no compassion.
They believe that:
• Money and power are concentrated in the hands of a few.
• Business grows by monopoly aggregation and by stifling competition.
• Freedom means no regulation. Nothing more.
• Government enforces "the economic order" (a caste system)
• Workers and voters are kept from uniting, chiefly by a divide and conquer strategy, i.e culture wars.
• Welfare for the rich. The fraud called "Trickle Down" really means "golden showers". (wink, wink)
In short: inequality, arrogance and privilege

or just outrage over imagined/manufactured fears.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18095169
Key Issues

Keep government from dictating what you read, your religion and your private life.
• The working person deserves a break rather than welfare for the rich.
• Americans believe in and defend the constitution because no American gains from harming another.
• Protect and expand medicare and Social Security so that health care is denied nobody.
• There is health, wealth and dignity for all when everyone pays their fair share.
• We fight for individual rights where others would deny them.
• America's needs are met by responsive, responsible government rather than contrived and fruitless culture wars.

---
The "mail a postcard" thread got one reply (mine) and 7 recs.
https://democraticunderground.com/10113368
WE ALL CAN DO MORE
It's a damn sight easier to send the orange menace to his home in Russia than to exile hundreds of millions of us.

rubbersole

(11,257 posts)
9. The SC doesn't need this case to dismantle the Constitution.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:31 AM
Aug 2023

They're already doing a good job on fake/hypothetical cases before them now.

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