57% Americans think 🍊 Donald should withdraw

[deminks]

Link to tweet

BREAKING: New AP poll reveals 57% of Americans think Trump should withdraw from the presidential race.

Don't expect to see that in the media. 🤷

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[Think. Again.]

1. K&R for exposure...

...next time someone tries to revive the Biden thing, quote them that.

[BigDemVoter]

2. Thank you for this.

I wish this could be blasted 24/7 on all the news channels with Cheeto bombarded with questions about it anytime his fat ass appears in public.

[WarGamer]

3. they clipped the full graphic. Here's the full graphic.

[TwilightZone]

7. Yeah, that was some selective editing.

Not quite the story the author wants to tell, I suspect.

It's disconcerting that the effort to pressure President Biden out of the race has gained such traction. I wonder what fraction of that 70%/65% already wanted him out of the race prior to the debate.

[WarGamer]

11. I understand the sentiment... but Biden is the only chance for now.

If this argument started in January... might be a different story.

[TwilightZone]

14. Oh, I agree.

My point was that intentionally misleading information is not helpful, regardless of the source. I fully support Biden remaining in the race. I might have been more open to alternatives if any of them were undeniably better (and the president was amenable to the change), but there's no indication that any of them would be better at all.

[WarGamer]

15. agreed... there's a push of misinformation all over the place recently...

[The Magistrate]

28. And There Is This, Too, Sir

Most all Democrats who, polled like this, indicate they would prefer Mr. Biden step aside, do so for fear he might not prevail over Trump. If he is the nominee, they will still vote for him to defeat Trump.

A portion of the Republicans who, polled like this, indicate they would prefer Trump step aside, do so out of objection to their party's standard being born by a felon held liable for rape and massive fraud, and who intends the overthrow of our country's democratic order. Not all of them will vote for that sick fuck come November.

[Lovie777]

8. Pres Biden is not dropping out.................

[WarGamer]

13. And he shouldn't...

He can beat Trump and it would do too much damage to the Party to switch this late.

[JT45242]

4. Given that there are more independents than either individual party... this is great news

The 27% of the Repubs who say he should not run will hopefully go with Joe or leave it blank -- both if which greatly hurt TFG since Rethug loyalty of their 25% of the voters has been an assumed strength compared to the volatility of the Democratic coalition.

That the majority of the independents think that he should not run -- that is very bad news for TFG and the entire Rethug party.

I wonder how many of the Dems want TFG to run because they think he is more beatable than a less crazy sounding fascist like Haley.

If this holds -- especially if they hold evidentiary hearings for the DC case in October to determine if the Jan 6 actions were "official acts" it will tip even further towards a blue avalanche.

[TwilightZone]

9. No, it's not. Look at the full graphic.

The author only provided half of the story. The other half is decidedly not good news.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219171697#post3

[BlueCheeseAgain]

31. The post with the other half has been removed, despite a robust discussion going on.

This is crazy.

[Emile]

5. Trump should drop out!

[Lovie777]

6. He is not dropping out.........................

[Kid Berwyn]

10. Echoes the Hatemboth narrative...

..which is the two, too old.

[TwilightZone]

12. The author of the tweet left out half of the story.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219171697#post3

Intentionally misleading information is not a good thing, regardless of the source.

For the record, I fully support President Biden remaining in the race.

[Sympthsical]

17. Woof

Those are . . . some numbers . . .

Real hard to make that "elites!" stuff stuck with that.

I support Biden remaining. I just wish the situation didn't look . . . as it does.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

18. You're right.

Those numbers have been like that for a year, maybe more. The idea that it's "elites" vs the people is wrong. If anything, the "elites" stayed loyal despite what the polls have been saying for a long time.

[Sympthsical]

20. You're absolutely right

These numbers have been in this ballpark for ages. They've gotten a bit worse of late, but they're not exactly running against the grain of believable Democratic voter sentiment. But hey, we didn't have a competitive primary despite that. It is what it is.

But we've all known it. When I saw that "Elites!" talking point, it was just . . . who believes this? Who's buying it? Why say such a demonstrably untrue thing that could be disproved just by talking to anyone on the street? Anyone. Pick an-y-one.

I think I'm just academically interested at this point. What happens when a minority rejects all evidence, cloisters together to reassure one another, and convinces themselves of things demonstrably untrue by every metric and rubric?

The much-vaunted base is speaking. They have been. And some Democratic politicians have been listening. It's an extremely devoted minority within our own base that are actually bucking what is, at this point in time, fairly widespread sentiment among our voters.

I just think it's all too late now.

[LudwigPastorius]

33. "What happens when a minority rejects all evidence, cloisters together to..

reassure one another, and convinces themselves of things demonstrably untrue by every metric and rubric?"

In the realm of politics, I think the academically accepted term is "They get their asses handed to them when the votes are counted".

[Emile]

16. Trump should step aside.

[Bluethroughu]

19. CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX, EVERY NEWS OUTLET ASK

The insurrectionist, when he will drop out!

[shrike3]

21. No surprise. Neither candidate is very popular.

[Moostache]

22. In a recent Missouri Poll, 100% of respondents believe Trump should flee the country.

7 Registered voters all...1 over 80...2 over 50, 4 under 30, 4 men and 3 women.
Of course they all also support Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and are my family!!!

[forthemiddle]

23. I hope this doesn't get me in trouble

I was one of many that really wanted new candidates this year, but now that we are in the homestretch we have to be 100% behind Biden.
My biggest concern is that there are no more stumbles before the election. Biden has been a strong leader before and since the debate, so I’m confident we have our candidate!

[GB_RN]

24. Also...

Don’t expect Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent to listen to what anyone says except Vanky and maybe Jar-Jar, and his “gut*.” Public or national good don’t mean Sheisse to von Shitzinpants.


*No, I’m not using the German definition of “gut.” Nothing about Cantaloupe Caligula is good.😁

[jayschool2013]

25. Published by the Associated Press

Which means it will be in hundreds of media outlets, let alone shared on social media through the AP's channels.

But "Don't expect to see that in the media"?

Genius: Cite the media, post it on media, then say the media won't report what you cited.

Of course, the context is that the story leads with 65 percent of Dems want Biden to withdraw, which is a much larger number than the 57 percent of all voters who want the Lard of Mierda Loco to withdraw.

[DENVERPOPS]

26. After the election, if Trump wins

I fully expect the Republican Party is going to get Trump out of office some how, in some respectable way, so his new VP choice will become President.
They will continue with everything, but want a more stable, and less psychotic, less narcissistic person to enact the plans they have already outlined. Trump will have outgrown his usefulness, and the NEW Republican Party will kick him to the curb in some way that his 70 million voters will be totally enamored with the new VP as President.......

[kansasobama]

27. I want to get younger

And I want everyone in my life to be younger sometimes. But that is not a reality. Yes, I want a younger candidate but don't want younger assholes? Dems had a chance to elect Sen Corey Brooks. They did not. So, now, you want younger person. You did not do that. Shut up wanting younger crowds.

[malaise]

29. K & R

Very important

[BlueCheeseAgain]

30. Posting this number gets wide approval...

But posting the other number in a separate OP (same question as applied to Biden) gets the OP removed, despite 100+ posts and a healthy discussion going on? If the 57% number is valid, then the other one must be too, right?

How are we supposed to have a healthy discussion if we're not allowed to present facts?

[uponit7771]

32. 51% of Independents

[Blue Owl]

34. K&R for the M$M

[Ping Tung]

35. Trump provides more votes for Biden than any other issue.

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Even the most right wing trash can see that Trump is unfit for any office and may not like Biden but will vote against Trump as the greater evil.

Add in the issue of abortion rights and Biden will be elected easily.

[orangecrush]

36. Trashed

[ffr]

37. Yup. If only this was the narrative the corporate propaganda media desired to focus on for even a minute.

We'd all breath a sigh of relief.

[BannonsLiver]

38. Biden's numbers are worse in the same poll

7 in 10 believe he should exit the race, FWIW.

https://apnorc.org/projects/most-say-biden-should-withdraw-from-the-presidential-race/