If conservatives make something illegal, it is your duty to nullify it in the jury box

[ck4829]

Legitimate laws are not based off of conservative vibes.

[stopdiggin]

1. an overwhelmingly broad statement ..

probably deserves critical (re)examination. (Think again)

and probably an overall rewrite ... ground up.

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[ck4829]

2. If Republicans make something illegal, it is your duty to nullify it in the jury box

[stopdiggin]

5. I think you said that before

and it's just as shallow (and frankly a little disappointing) the second time around.

Stop and think for two seconds. So, if the Pubs make gummi bears laced with fentanyl - (or 14 year olds working in a smelting plant) - illegal ... I'm suppose to 'nullify' that?
Anything the Repubs make illegal .. ?

Jeeeezus .. !

[ck4829]

19. Rewrite this

https://democraticunderground.com/100219930307

[krawhitham]

3. NO, it be in a jury you have to agree you will FOLLOW the LAW, end of

If I give someone my word, it means something

[ck4829]

4. The Fugitive Slave Act was the law at one point, I would have voted to acquit an abolitionist

And laws should be based on evidence and reason, not vibes.

[stopdiggin]

7. you mean like anti-discrimination laws?

public nuisance, public decency, prostitution, animal cruelty, child marriage, polygamy ...
and on ...

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. Jury nullification does not not follow the law.

[ck4829]

6. It's cool, google "jury nullification"

[rsdsharp]

8. So you're the kind of person who will swear an oath and willfully violate it.

And that would be after you lied when asked if you could follow the law as given by the judge when asked during voir dire. Because if you didn’t lie to that question, you would never have been in a position to be chosen for the jury.

Good to know.

[TheKentuckian]

9. You're coming off as one happy to support injustice if it is the letter of the law

because the spirit of it irrelevant.

Executing the innocent is fine and dandy, cuz its the LAW.

Maybe your code of honor would lead you to refuse to be sat for an unjust outcome if it was clear that was the nature of the trial but justice...real justice calls on us to short circuit the lynching not salve our personal virtues with a proverbial baby sawn in half left dead on the floor to allow us to feel we have clean hands.

[rsdsharp]

10. First, in most cases, juries determine guilt, not sentences.

Second, I’m unaware of any state in which the death penalty a mandatory sentence. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

Third, the OP made no mention of the death penalty. It urged that if you don’t like a Republican law — any law — nullification is a juror’s duty. One wonders if they would have the same attitude if a Republican urged that action with respect to Democratic laws.

I’m learning that there are a number of people on DU who rail against Trump’s lies and lack of ethics, who have no problem at all urging lies and unethical behavior if it suits their purposes.

[TheKentuckian]

11. It doesn't have to be death. The principle doesn't change.

Would you convict someone to a prison sentence or evade the case to avoid breaking your word for say saving a woman's life instead of letting her succumb to sepsis in order to stay within the letter of one of these abortion bans?

[rsdsharp]

12. I will not falsely swear an oath. Most certainly knowing when I swore it t be that I was doing so

because I intended to break it. In my opinion, one who would do so, whether it be Donald Trump, or someone else, isn’t to be trusted.

[ck4829]

18. I have already taken an oath

An oath to value my life and the lives and freedoms of others over conservative vibes and feelings.

[ck4829]

14. Thank you. Human lives and freedoms are more important than laws based off of conservative vibes

[ck4829]

13. I'm not going to be the kind of person who will join in the oppression of my fellow citizens

“We used to say that ours is not the struggle of one day, one week, or one year. Ours is not the struggle of one judicial appointment or presidential term. Ours is the struggle of a lifetime, or maybe even many lifetimes, and each one of us in every generation must do our part. And if we believe in the change we seek, then it is easy to commit to doing all we can, because the responsibility is ours alone to build a better society and a more peaceful world.” --Congressman John Lewis, 1940-2020

I, for one, won't give up. It angers me to no end that my daughters have fewer rights today than I did when I was their age.

My older daughter is 23 today. My younger one will be 21 on the 19th. They're worth fighting for.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219689651

"Struggle" and "Fight" are mentioned several more times in that thread.

What does struggle and fight mean though? What's the applied version of that?

It doesn't mean just sit on our hands. It doesn't mean hoping the Republicans will at least use lube.

This is fighting. This is struggling. This is resisting.

Now if you all don't have the stomach for it, that's fine. But I am not going to be told to value the human life, freedom, and spirit less than laws stemming from a belief that dying in childbirth is a part of God's plan. That is a non-starter.

[JCMach1]

15. The oath to the Constitution has already been nullified

By said judge.

[ck4829]

17. Indeed