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SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:51 PM Nov 10

Fuck This Country And All That It Stands For Now

THIS ELECTION SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN FUCKING CLOSE!!!!

Instead of trying to figure out what WE did wrong, what mistakes WE made, let's focus on the Pieces Of Shit that voted for the alternatives.

I'm not going into reflection mode, trying to dissect what would have been successful in getting the MAGGOTS of this country, to support a candidate whose worst quality was better than ANY of the other candidate's "best" qualities.

IT IS NOT ON US, IT IS ON THEM!

Oh, but let's not criticize them, let's be Nicee Nice, and try to figure out how we could have sent a different message. Like perhaps the message the other side was sending? Maybe if Kamala had been a Convicted Felon, Rapist, Racist, Anti-Semite, Narcissist, Grifter, Vile Piece Of Shit, perhaps that would have been more effective?

WE DID NOTHING WRONG! There was nothing wrong with our platform or our candidate. At least not in comparison to theirs.

You're damn right I don't care anymore. You're damn right I'm done with our side trying to help those who voted against us. You think they are going to help our side now that they've won? You think they're going to fight for unity, and bringing sides together? FUCK 'EM!

Let us become the Shithole that we're destined to become anyways. The Shithole that we apparently already are. Let it burn down. And it is LOOOOONG past time to call them out for the Assholes that they are. Even "Garbage" is not a strong enough word to use. Instead of all our leaders trying to place blame inward, I will have a great deal of respect for ANY of them who come out publicly and place blame Squarely where it belongs.

I don't care if it offends or turns them off. Embracing them, talking to them like they're Normal, Intelligent, FINE people, hasn't worked, and it never will. Either tell them what they are, or IGNORE them. I intend to do the latter as much as I can. I truly believe my life is in danger over the coming years, if I do the former, and call out some Degenerate to their face, because of my seething anger.

I wish there was a way to separate Their pain from Our pain, but since that's not possible in these "united," LOL, states, Fuck Them and Fuck Us. I am going to look out for myself, and contribute the bare minimum to this country's economy. And what I do contribute, I hope can go towards those on our side, who are deserving of my support.

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Fuck This Country And All That It Stands For Now (Original Post) SoCalDavidS Nov 10 OP
After checking in on the forum this morning BannonsLiver Nov 10 #1
There's still room for fight, Dems can be obstructionist and never pay for it or just the opposite and let America feel uponit7771 Nov 10 #2
Is it ok to enjoy watching their pain Beck23 Nov 10 #34
First you will have to find one who admits it. Mr.Bill Nov 10 #47
Keep your receipts, Linda ladeewolf Nov 10 #58
Lol Meowmee Nov 12 #84
The sad thing is that millions of good Democrats will also suffer, including immigrants. groundloop Nov 10 #50
That's the part I hate Dem4life1234 Nov 12 #85
Post removed Post removed Nov 12 #82
Wherever did you get the idea that other countries pay tariffs? Mariana Nov 12 #83
That poor fool believed what Trumpy told him! FSogol Nov 12 #86
the words that popped out to me were "obstructionist" and "refuse to pay" FirstLight Nov 10 #64
I was on Reddit Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #3
My plan HAB911 Nov 10 #4
You might consider moving your money into a Money Market Fund bif Nov 10 #19
I did that last week. Yavin4 Nov 10 #21
The dollar hannah Nov 10 #27
That's what I mean by cash I guess HAB911 Nov 10 #35
I see a lot of posts recommending this but I have a question. It is the intent of Trump to in2herbs Nov 10 #40
that is mind boggling to me HAB911 Nov 10 #57
There was one time the oligarchs were purchasing silver and gold with the intent of in2herbs Nov 10 #61
Tangible assets. rubbersole Nov 10 #37
Not a bad plan. I got out of the market (to my detriment) when the Orange Anus was threatening "fire and fury like the Evolve Dammit Nov 10 #51
Well - that's helpful. stopdiggin Nov 10 #5
Your big hearted empathy really touches me. 1WorldHope Nov 10 #11
Well, when stacked up against - "F this country and all it stands for ... " stopdiggin Nov 10 #13
I kinda see where he's coming from though ck4829 Nov 10 #16
I see you're still stuck on the laws and 'feelings' stopdiggin Nov 10 #26
We all grieve differently, so I've been told repeatedly here. littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #63
The US UT_democrat Nov 10 #65
You still think that there will be free and fair elections going forward? Yavin4 Nov 10 #22
I don't know. But I will assume that elections stopdiggin Nov 10 #28
Not Wrong, but krawhitham Nov 10 #6
Indeed julmur Nov 10 #7
How interesting Traildogbob Nov 10 #8
No Disrespect SoCalDavidS Nov 10 #9
This veteran Traildogbob Nov 10 #15
Also, Traildogbob Nov 10 #20
75M is not the majority ButchMcMuffin Nov 10 #62
Donald Dump JoeBydun Nov 10 #10
Then We'll Get Blamed For Any Pain Along The Way SoCalDavidS Nov 10 #12
Some things we could do or not do kansasobama Nov 10 #14
Dems only agenda needs to be kansasobama Nov 10 #17
48% voted against Trump kansasobama Nov 10 #18
How much you wanna bet this coming Fourth of July will be the grandest ever? BattleRow Nov 10 #23
Yep, complete with a giant military parade johnnyfins Nov 10 #25
Perhaps even sporting a mustache? BattleRow Nov 10 #79
I am asking every local business where I johnnyfins Nov 10 #24
The MAGAS base is 35% or so of the country. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 10 #29
It was the misogeny and the racism Ray Bruns Nov 10 #39
The administration had a 40% approval rating in exit polls DemocratSinceBirth Nov 10 #46
Eggs were an excuse DemonGoddess Nov 10 #42
It was voter suppression in my opinion Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #56
We have exit polls DemocratSinceBirth Nov 10 #60
Apparently, the old adage of "Live and let live" has been relegated to an archaic idea. world wide wally Nov 10 #30
_ LudwigPastorius Nov 10 #31
Their idea of 'unity' is louis-t Nov 10 #32
I disagree. We did a lot wrong mountain grammy Nov 10 #33
Yup orangecrush Nov 10 #36
America is a lie!! aeromanKC Nov 10 #38
I don't agree with either the "we are the greatest country in the world" crowd" or the "fuck this country and all it Martin68 Nov 10 #41
AMEN AMEN AMEN !!!!!! Liberal In Red State Nov 10 #43
I feel your rage, but... Unca Jim Nov 10 #44
It wasn't all fucking wine and roses 2017 thru 2020. I guess you slept through Covid. paleotn Nov 10 #66
Fine Unca Jim Nov 10 #81
Post Of The Day, as far as I'm concerned. Paladin Nov 10 #45
Hear, hear!!! Beacool Nov 10 #48
To say we did nothing wrong is wrong. alarimer Nov 10 #49
You know, I could see Trump ending his support for Israel entirely as a repayment to Dearborn. ColinC Nov 10 #52
Yes. We are all... ButchMcMuffin Nov 10 #53
I get it, but surrender is not an option. paleotn Nov 10 #54
We should consider splitting up the country, and living separately. John4P Nov 10 #55
Like the Confederacy? N/t Lulu KC Nov 10 #80
For the first time in my life, I am NOT glad or proud to be an American. Jeebo Nov 10 #59
OH, HELL NO. Fuck the fascists -- not our country. mellow Nov 10 #67
Let it Burn yankee87 Nov 10 #68
Pretty much how I feel. A-Seeker Nov 10 #69
Right there with ya. notroot Nov 10 #70
Millions of Americans were convinced SARose Nov 10 #71
Alexa, play I Don't Care Anymore by Phil Collins EnergizedLib Nov 10 #72
Right there with you Marigold Nov 10 #73
Mistakes Nevergivein89 Nov 10 #74
Did the media (I assume you mean the big players) mislead everyone - TBF Nov 10 #75
I tend to save when pukes are in control. pwb Nov 10 #76
In honor of Righteous rage: Nimble_Idea Nov 10 #77
I agree it is a lot on them Meowmee Nov 10 #78

BannonsLiver

(18,617 posts)
1. After checking in on the forum this morning
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:53 PM
Nov 10

I’m feeling a lot better about how I’ve been processing my grief since Tuesday.

uponit7771

(92,314 posts)
2. There's still room for fight, Dems can be obstructionist and never pay for it or just the opposite and let America feel
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:54 PM
Nov 10

... the extreme pain from Benedict Donald's admin which will have even less guardrails than last time.

There's still some room to fight

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
47. First you will have to find one who admits it.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:02 PM
Nov 10

When eggs are ten dollars a dozen, they will swear they used to be $15 when Biden was President.

groundloop

(12,473 posts)
50. The sad thing is that millions of good Democrats will also suffer, including immigrants.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:07 PM
Nov 10

I'm in fairly good shape, it won't be pleasant but I should be able to weather the tRUMP storm fairly comfortably. However, it will still piss me off to no end watching the endless lies and racist policies that are bound to be coming.

Also know this: tRUMP will fuck things up so bad that 4 years won't be enough time for the next administration to fix all of his damage, which will make it easier for another GQP administration to slither into the White House and perpetuate the endless cycle.

Response to Beck23 (Reply #34)

Mariana

(15,291 posts)
83. Wherever did you get the idea that other countries pay tariffs?
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:51 AM
Nov 12

That's not how it works. The importer pays the tax, and passes the extra cost on to whoever purchases the products from them.

FirstLight

(14,491 posts)
64. the words that popped out to me were "obstructionist" and "refuse to pay"
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:27 PM
Nov 10

I for one am down with a huge BOYCOTT of Income Taxes for the next year or four!!! that's not a bad idea.

But you know, the cheeto will just priint more money and then we really will be 1930 Gremany

Thoughts?

Dem4life1234

(2,342 posts)
3. I was on Reddit
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:55 PM
Nov 10

And some jackass was blaming Biden and Kamala saying they didn't reach out to those working class people. These are grown ass adults, not our fault they are too stupid.

Jokes write themselves. I love you guys and you keep me sane!

HAB911

(9,468 posts)
4. My plan
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:57 PM
Nov 10

is to spend like a drunken sailor through January, then shift to an austerity plan of essentials only. I may move a lot of stocks to cash and hunker down for four years. In my condition, that might be all the time I need.

bif

(24,556 posts)
19. You might consider moving your money into a Money Market Fund
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:50 PM
Nov 10

At least there you'll earn interest. That's what I plan on doing. Moving 1/2 the money I currently have in stocks and mutual funds.

Yavin4

(36,886 posts)
21. I did that last week.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:53 PM
Nov 10

Aint no way that I'm investing with these clowns running the show. Do people remember covid at all? Do they remember how fucked up things were in the spring of 2024? Dude was fucking clueless.

hannah

(201 posts)
27. The dollar
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:03 PM
Nov 10

Did you read the article from David Troy about tanking the economy. He said they will get rid of the Federal reserve. Switch to bitcoin and make the dollar worthless. Scary stuff. This is what Putin wants. Elon Musk, Trump ,Thiel are all Russian agents. What?

in2herbs

(3,425 posts)
40. I see a lot of posts recommending this but I have a question. It is the intent of Trump to
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:46 PM
Nov 10

de-value the dollar and make the US economy based on the value of bit coin. I just want to know how what we currently consider "money" will be safe in any interest venue when its been de-valued and replaced with bit coin? No mater where it is in the market or under your mattress, what we know currently as "money" will not be worth a dollar if they are successful in making bitcoin the "full faith and credit" of the American economy.

HAB911

(9,468 posts)
57. that is mind boggling to me
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:14 PM
Nov 10

it would seem an insurmountable task, the push back would be massive. Seems like billionaire's would have far too much tied to the dollar to allow it, and lots of millionaires not in crypto. IDK, really above my pay-grade

in2herbs

(3,425 posts)
61. There was one time the oligarchs were purchasing silver and gold with the intent of
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:23 PM
Nov 10

undermining the value of the dollar. I don't remember who was president at the time, but his response to avoid a financial catastrophy in the US was to devalue gold and silver to be on par with the value of the dollar at the time.

The oligarchs will be in full control under Trump and have been heavily investing in bitcoin. How can the average American give any push back if this was attempted?

We are not down and out yet. We still have sway over local level governments and Ds can push local level governments to deny mining permits for bit coin and even revoke the permits if they're in violation of any clause in the Agreement. Besides said mining uses too much water and energy.

rubbersole

(9,052 posts)
37. Tangible assets.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:32 PM
Nov 10

Nothing backed up by paper. Some serious wealth consolidation by the 1/10th of 1% is the goal of all the manipulation of our population. It is so working.

Evolve Dammit

(19,769 posts)
51. Not a bad plan. I got out of the market (to my detriment) when the Orange Anus was threatening "fire and fury like the
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:07 PM
Nov 10

world has never seen" (regarding RNK). I'm like OK. This asshole is unstable enough to to do it; I want to keep what I've worked 50 years for, thank you very little. Missed a huge bump but we have no idea what he and his billionaires are going to do, but I'm pretty damn sure they are in it to extract as much as they can from us "suckers and losers." Wouldn't be surprised if he and Musk just change the currency structure to crypto just to destory the middle (and lower) classes.
Buckle up

stopdiggin

(13,282 posts)
5. Well - that's helpful.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:59 PM
Nov 10

And yet - some of us remain interested in actually winning elections. Steering a course for the country ... If we are at all capable.

Catch up with you again in two years. (or not - depending on where each of us incarnates)

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ck4829

(36,556 posts)
16. I kinda see where he's coming from though
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:44 PM
Nov 10

If people want to value "laws" based off conservative feelings more than the people they would criminalize, it's hard to feel good about the country.

stopdiggin

(13,282 posts)
26. I see you're still stuck on the laws and 'feelings'
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:02 PM
Nov 10

thing. Problem with that is, that many of our laws are based on 'feelings'. And always have been. (with 'liberals' of course being equally prone .. ) So - kind of a wishy-washy argument.

As far as whether we feel 'good' about the country right now ... Doubt very many of us are feeling real chipper right at the moment. Guess it's all in how we express ourselves ...

UT_democrat

(153 posts)
65. The US
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:29 PM
Nov 10

Voted overwhelmingly against empathy. You like banging your head against the wall have at it. OP is 100% correct IMO. I’ll still be kind but I’m out of the Democrat party as of yesterday. I can write in myself in Utah and still enjoy the same results. Scaled back living and taking care of my own until there’s an actual effective resistance. God save us all except God is dead too.

Yavin4

(36,886 posts)
22. You still think that there will be free and fair elections going forward?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:54 PM
Nov 10

All they have to do is create a national voter ID registry and then pick and choose who gets to vote.

stopdiggin

(13,282 posts)
28. I don't know. But I will assume that elections
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:08 PM
Nov 10

are our way forward .... Until presented with overwhelming evidence otherwise. And even then - I'm not sure if I'm willing or interested in pursuing some other 'path'. You?

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krawhitham

(4,931 posts)
6. Not Wrong, but
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:00 PM
Nov 10

we still need to win or the planet will end up a giant fireball


So just tell them whatever it takes to win, the truth no longer matters, just what they believe

Traildogbob

(10,511 posts)
8. How interesting
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:04 PM
Nov 10

Is it that Germany hosted an American Football game, with lots of “Blacks” the week we elected a Nazi Government.
They came so for from a Hitler regime, and we took our country right back to what we died to rid them of.God be Blessin MurKKKa.
Oh, no need to thank me for my service. We all just saw the appreciation from our country.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
9. No Disrespect
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:14 PM
Nov 10

But I'm referring to tomorrow as Suckers & Losers Day. Because the majority of this country voted for someone who in no uncertain terms, believes that to be true. I don't recall Vice President Harris ever saying something like that.

Traildogbob

(10,511 posts)
15. This veteran
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:42 PM
Nov 10

Is not disrespected by your comment.
I am disrespected by the Dems deciding a minute to vote for what we served for, was too much a sacrifice. Not to mention all the 1/2 of the country that never votes
My service was during a time we had no legal right to vote. But could go die for the “Cause”.

Traildogbob

(10,511 posts)
20. Also,
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:51 PM
Nov 10

I was referring to the GQP Nazis, not you SoCalDavis.i totally respect your voice here.
We still like to hear it from the people that mean it, and make their own sacrifices. That’s who we were proud to serve for. Always will be.
But MAGA et al, here’s a little Will Smith for them. “Keep my fucking service out if your mouth”.

kansasobama

(1,593 posts)
14. Some things we could do or not do
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:41 PM
Nov 10

Do not respond to Gaza fund raising requests. When deportation starts, I know I have to bite the bullet and keep quiet. That is sad but I may not have a choice. There will be chaos.

We have to really make sure we do not support anything that furthers Trump economics. They will expect lot of charity out of the goodness of our heart. This is code word for Trump won't spend on programs, let it go to tax cuts. No charity.

johnnyfins

(1,655 posts)
24. I am asking every local business where I
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:59 PM
Nov 10

Spend my money if the owner supported Trump. If I get a yes, business goes elsewhere. I'm done with these fuckers.

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,515 posts)
29. The MAGAS base is 35% or so of the country.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:10 PM
Nov 10

There were enough Americans who thought eggs cost too much that joined them. That tipped the election.

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,515 posts)
46. The administration had a 40% approval rating in exit polls
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:01 PM
Nov 10

No American incumbent political party has held the presideny with such abysmal numbers; Stevenson lost, Humphrey lost, Carter lost, Bush Pere lost, and John McCain lost.

DemonGoddess

(5,125 posts)
42. Eggs were an excuse
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:54 PM
Nov 10

so they could hide their misogyny. FFS did these morons not realize that culling millions of fowl because of a flu epidemic would impact prices? And not just with eggs alone, but all the many things made with eggs???

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,515 posts)
60. We have exit polls
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:20 PM
Nov 10

Exit polls are rough checks on the actual results and the latter confirmed the former. It's hard for me to believe Edison Research which has been doing this for at least fifty years was in on the ruse. It's not that he is popular. He was just a little more popular than us because people blamed us for higher prices.

mountain grammy

(27,484 posts)
33. I disagree. We did a lot wrong
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:27 PM
Nov 10

BUT nothing compares to what republicans have done for the last 35 years from Gingrich to Bush v Gore to this asshole ..Nothing!
And nothing justifies what republicans will do to satisfy those who can never be satisfied.

Anyway good rant.

Martin68

(24,892 posts)
41. I don't agree with either the "we are the greatest country in the world" crowd" or the "fuck this country and all it
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:53 PM
Nov 10

stands for" contingent. I think the best of us are great, and the worst of us are monsters. We are just another country with the ups and downs every country has. Sure, we have a lot of influence due to our huge economy, powerful military, and occasionally brilliant innovation, but reality is always yin and yang, positive and negative in combat or trying to make peace.

Unca Jim

(572 posts)
44. I feel your rage, but...
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:58 PM
Nov 10

Life is very hard for a lot of people right now, and it only got harder during the Biden administration. Things got more expensive, people can't afford a place to live in most metro areas, health care is worse and costs more, wages have not kept up, etc.

I get it, Harris had a lot of good ideas to help. Many of those things aren't the Biden administration's fault.

But many people remember they had it better under Trump when the Obama economy was delivering for them.

It's not fair, but there it is.

Also, racism and misogyny are either things people can convince themselves aren't real or aren't dealbreakers for them.

paleotn

(19,853 posts)
66. It wasn't all fucking wine and roses 2017 thru 2020. I guess you slept through Covid.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:33 PM
Nov 10

Inflation PEAKED on Donny's watch in 2020. And you completely forgot about Medicare now being able to negotiate drug prices. The CHIPS bill and on and on. Oh, but you're worried about the price of fucking eggs.

This is a matter of messaging and attitude. It's a failure in leadership on our part. Leadership means having the strength to kick the other guys in the fucking balls when necessary. To not hold back because you want to seem all statesmanlike or something. To lead no matter how it looks to the press or anyone else.

The message should be....the pain you're feeling is because Donny fucked up Covid and we're still cleaning up the goddamn mess. The pain you're feeling is Wall Street finding a cash cow in rental property and Republicans not letting us do a goddamn about it. The pain your feeling is because Repukes love all that shit, get paid to advocate and protect it and won't allow Dems to fix it. Just be painfully, bluntly honest. Stop voting Repuke, stop fucking yourself and let us fix the problems. That's the message. Our political ancestors were far better at messaging than the current crop. We need to get our sand back. Not get all mealy mouthed about the price of fucking eggs or have memory lapses as your apparently are.

alarimer

(16,781 posts)
49. To say we did nothing wrong is wrong.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:05 PM
Nov 10

We cannot continue to whistle past the graveyard.

People simply didn't want what we were trying to sell them. There are lots of reasons for that, a big one being the firehose of lies put out by the other side and for which we have no good counter.

But also, stop touting the stock market as evidence the economy is good. It has nothing to do with how people perceive the economy.

Also stop cozying up to the GOP. Nobody likes Liz Cheney, not current Republicans voters and not current Democratic voters and probably not independents either.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
52. You know, I could see Trump ending his support for Israel entirely as a repayment to Dearborn.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:10 PM
Nov 10

Especially if the Jewish vote was as entirely against him as was said prior to the election... such an act could turn Arab Americans almost entirely permanently Republican.

paleotn

(19,853 posts)
54. I get it, but surrender is not an option.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:12 PM
Nov 10

Sorry. I don't do that. Doesn't mean I'm going to be nice to them. Nice just doesn't fit my DNA. Fairness does. Equality does. But not nice. As my wife says, I do not suffer fools and they know it. I'm most certainly NOT the kumbaya wing of the Democratic Party. I've advocated for some time that we dump that shit, jump in the gutter and get nasty, to little avail. That's the Democratic Party I grew up in. The one Republicans feared. They don't fear us anymore. They should.

You're going through the stages of grief. You're in anger now. I've been there this week too. But I moved on because in my mind what we're fighting for is worth fighting for. And I for one will not stop. Even if it means splitting the country so we can live in a fair, equitable society and they can go rot, I'm all for it. But I'm not giving up on the promise of this nation.

John4P

(1 post)
55. We should consider splitting up the country, and living separately.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:13 PM
Nov 10

America is hopelessly divided, and we'd all be better off splitting up the country, and everyone can then choose which side they want to live on.

Jeebo

(2,369 posts)
59. For the first time in my life, I am NOT glad or proud to be an American.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:19 PM
Nov 10

I would leave the country but for three problems: 1) I can't afford it; 2) I'm too old to take the stresses of making such a move; and 3) We all need to stay here and continue the fight, because when we stop fighting, that's when they really win.

I'm 74 years old and my health isn't good. I am actually glad that I probably will not be above the ground for much longer, because I know I am not going to like the world we'll all be living in, in the coming years.

— Ron

mellow

(97 posts)
67. OH, HELL NO. Fuck the fascists -- not our country.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:34 PM
Nov 10

There's nothing more helpful to the anti-American fascists than the left dissing the United States of America.

Our country is us. All of us.

You're angry. Point that anger somewhere useful -- not somewhere that's self-defeating.



yankee87

(2,479 posts)
68. Let it Burn
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:34 PM
Nov 10

Let’s face it, pretty soon we’ll no vaccinated people, no federal help for blue states. It was coming now with the rapist or just the next one.
We have a president who performed a blow job on stage.
Here goes the detention camps, gestapo like police.
Let the idiots have everything they want.

I will vote, but that is it.
Just tired

SARose

(1,105 posts)
71. Millions of Americans were convinced
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:50 PM
Nov 10

that children with ambiguous genitalia were a bigger threat than a convicted sexual predator.

Millions of Americans were convinced they are worse off today than 4 years ago. I guess they forgot the bodies stacking up in refrigerator trucks and the complete shut down of the world economy.

Millions of Americans were convinced that immigrants were eating pets.

Millions of Americans are convinced that poor people of color are getting more benefits than them.

We were out messaged, out marketed, out lawyered, and out judged.

Okay. As my Mother said “ you’ve made your bed now lay in it.”

In my opinion, this is the second time we lost because the Old Guard, elite Dems will not move to the center; will not spend money on younger Dems; will not put term limits on Congress and more. Too many elite Dems want to run on social issues and the Trumpers are pounding us into the ground.

Nobody cheated. Nobody stole votes. We lost because we are out of touch with middle class Americans, blue collar workers, farmers, and unions i.e., our historic base.

Just my two cents.

Marigold

(228 posts)
73. Right there with you
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:56 PM
Nov 10

It was inevitable once people had a choice between Satan and any other sane semi competent human being. Whether man, woman, black, white, old, young, whatever. And they chose Satan. And not only did they choose Satan, they chose his minions to continue the shit show Republicans in congress and the senate have been engaged in for years. This is what America wants. Let's see how it goes.

 

Nevergivein89

(2 posts)
74. Mistakes
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:58 PM
Nov 10

I think the economy and the fact that people are struggling is why Trump was elected. I watched videos of how many poor people and immigrants that can't afford to feed themselves going on four years now that voted for him. Maybe the party should have listened to them and resonate more on what people need. The media mislead everyone it seems again much like 2016 and the result has failed us once again.

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