Fuck This Country And All That It Stands For Now

[SoCalDavidS]

THIS ELECTION SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN FUCKING CLOSE!!!!

Instead of trying to figure out what WE did wrong, what mistakes WE made, let's focus on the Pieces Of Shit that voted for the alternatives.

I'm not going into reflection mode, trying to dissect what would have been successful in getting the MAGGOTS of this country, to support a candidate whose worst quality was better than ANY of the other candidate's "best" qualities.

IT IS NOT ON US, IT IS ON THEM!

Oh, but let's not criticize them, let's be Nicee Nice, and try to figure out how we could have sent a different message. Like perhaps the message the other side was sending? Maybe if Kamala had been a Convicted Felon, Rapist, Racist, Anti-Semite, Narcissist, Grifter, Vile Piece Of Shit, perhaps that would have been more effective?

WE DID NOTHING WRONG! There was nothing wrong with our platform or our candidate. At least not in comparison to theirs.

You're damn right I don't care anymore. You're damn right I'm done with our side trying to help those who voted against us. You think they are going to help our side now that they've won? You think they're going to fight for unity, and bringing sides together? FUCK 'EM!

Let us become the Shithole that we're destined to become anyways. The Shithole that we apparently already are. Let it burn down. And it is LOOOOONG past time to call them out for the Assholes that they are. Even "Garbage" is not a strong enough word to use. Instead of all our leaders trying to place blame inward, I will have a great deal of respect for ANY of them who come out publicly and place blame Squarely where it belongs.

I don't care if it offends or turns them off. Embracing them, talking to them like they're Normal, Intelligent, FINE people, hasn't worked, and it never will. Either tell them what they are, or IGNORE them. I intend to do the latter as much as I can. I truly believe my life is in danger over the coming years, if I do the former, and call out some Degenerate to their face, because of my seething anger.

I wish there was a way to separate Their pain from Our pain, but since that's not possible in these "united," LOL, states, Fuck Them and Fuck Us. I am going to look out for myself, and contribute the bare minimum to this country's economy. And what I do contribute, I hope can go towards those on our side, who are deserving of my support.

[BannonsLiver]

1. After checking in on the forum this morning

I’m feeling a lot better about how I’ve been processing my grief since Tuesday.

[uponit7771]

2. There's still room for fight, Dems can be obstructionist and never pay for it or just the opposite and let America feel

... the extreme pain from Benedict Donald's admin which will have even less guardrails than last time.

There's still some room to fight

[Beck23]

34. Is it ok to enjoy watching their pain

When they realize prices are going up instead of down? Just asking.

[Mr.Bill]

47. First you will have to find one who admits it.

When eggs are ten dollars a dozen, they will swear they used to be $15 when Biden was President.

[Linda ladeewolf]

58. Keep your receipts,

Then when some jackass spouts off about anything, haul one out and tell them their full of it!

[Meowmee]

84. Lol

Good idea

[groundloop]

50. The sad thing is that millions of good Democrats will also suffer, including immigrants.

I'm in fairly good shape, it won't be pleasant but I should be able to weather the tRUMP storm fairly comfortably. However, it will still piss me off to no end watching the endless lies and racist policies that are bound to be coming.

Also know this: tRUMP will fuck things up so bad that 4 years won't be enough time for the next administration to fix all of his damage, which will make it easier for another GQP administration to slither into the White House and perpetuate the endless cycle.

[Dem4life1234]

85. That's the part I hate

I don't care if those idiot MAGAts suffer, will revel in it.

But I hate that the Dems suffer.

[Mariana]

83. Wherever did you get the idea that other countries pay tariffs?

That's not how it works. The importer pays the tax, and passes the extra cost on to whoever purchases the products from them.

[FSogol]

86. That poor fool believed what Trumpy told him!

[FirstLight]

64. the words that popped out to me were "obstructionist" and "refuse to pay"

I for one am down with a huge BOYCOTT of Income Taxes for the next year or four!!! that's not a bad idea.

But you know, the cheeto will just priint more money and then we really will be 1930 Gremany

Thoughts?

[Dem4life1234]

3. I was on Reddit

And some jackass was blaming Biden and Kamala saying they didn't reach out to those working class people. These are grown ass adults, not our fault they are too stupid.

Jokes write themselves. I love you guys and you keep me sane!

[HAB911]

4. My plan

is to spend like a drunken sailor through January, then shift to an austerity plan of essentials only. I may move a lot of stocks to cash and hunker down for four years. In my condition, that might be all the time I need.

[bif]

19. You might consider moving your money into a Money Market Fund

At least there you'll earn interest. That's what I plan on doing. Moving 1/2 the money I currently have in stocks and mutual funds.

[Yavin4]

21. I did that last week.

Aint no way that I'm investing with these clowns running the show. Do people remember covid at all? Do they remember how fucked up things were in the spring of 2024? Dude was fucking clueless.

[hannah]

27. The dollar

Did you read the article from David Troy about tanking the economy. He said they will get rid of the Federal reserve. Switch to bitcoin and make the dollar worthless. Scary stuff. This is what Putin wants. Elon Musk, Trump ,Thiel are all Russian agents. What?

[HAB911]

35. That's what I mean by cash I guess

SPAXX Fidelity Government Money Market Fund

[in2herbs]

40. I see a lot of posts recommending this but I have a question. It is the intent of Trump to

de-value the dollar and make the US economy based on the value of bit coin. I just want to know how what we currently consider "money" will be safe in any interest venue when its been de-valued and replaced with bit coin? No mater where it is in the market or under your mattress, what we know currently as "money" will not be worth a dollar if they are successful in making bitcoin the "full faith and credit" of the American economy.

[HAB911]

57. that is mind boggling to me

it would seem an insurmountable task, the push back would be massive. Seems like billionaire's would have far too much tied to the dollar to allow it, and lots of millionaires not in crypto. IDK, really above my pay-grade

[in2herbs]

61. There was one time the oligarchs were purchasing silver and gold with the intent of

undermining the value of the dollar. I don't remember who was president at the time, but his response to avoid a financial catastrophy in the US was to devalue gold and silver to be on par with the value of the dollar at the time.

The oligarchs will be in full control under Trump and have been heavily investing in bitcoin. How can the average American give any push back if this was attempted?

We are not down and out yet. We still have sway over local level governments and Ds can push local level governments to deny mining permits for bit coin and even revoke the permits if they're in violation of any clause in the Agreement. Besides said mining uses too much water and energy.

[rubbersole]

37. Tangible assets.

Nothing backed up by paper. Some serious wealth consolidation by the 1/10th of 1% is the goal of all the manipulation of our population. It is so working.

[Evolve Dammit]

51. Not a bad plan. I got out of the market (to my detriment) when the Orange Anus was threatening "fire and fury like the

world has never seen" (regarding RNK). I'm like OK. This asshole is unstable enough to to do it; I want to keep what I've worked 50 years for, thank you very little. Missed a huge bump but we have no idea what he and his billionaires are going to do, but I'm pretty damn sure they are in it to extract as much as they can from us "suckers and losers." Wouldn't be surprised if he and Musk just change the currency structure to crypto just to destory the middle (and lower) classes.
Buckle up

[stopdiggin]

5. Well - that's helpful.

And yet - some of us remain interested in actually winning elections. Steering a course for the country ... If we are at all capable.

Catch up with you again in two years. (or not - depending on where each of us incarnates)

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[1WorldHope]

11. Your big hearted empathy really touches me.

[stopdiggin]

13. Well, when stacked up against - "F this country and all it stands for ... "

maybe just a little .. ?

[ck4829]

16. I kinda see where he's coming from though

If people want to value "laws" based off conservative feelings more than the people they would criminalize, it's hard to feel good about the country.

[stopdiggin]

26. I see you're still stuck on the laws and 'feelings'

thing. Problem with that is, that many of our laws are based on 'feelings'. And always have been. (with 'liberals' of course being equally prone .. ) So - kind of a wishy-washy argument.

As far as whether we feel 'good' about the country right now ... Doubt very many of us are feeling real chipper right at the moment. Guess it's all in how we express ourselves ...

[littlemissmartypants]

63. We all grieve differently, so I've been told repeatedly here.

Like I don't already know that...



❤️

[UT_democrat]

65. The US

Voted overwhelmingly against empathy. You like banging your head against the wall have at it. OP is 100% correct IMO. I’ll still be kind but I’m out of the Democrat party as of yesterday. I can write in myself in Utah and still enjoy the same results. Scaled back living and taking care of my own until there’s an actual effective resistance. God save us all except God is dead too.

[Yavin4]

22. You still think that there will be free and fair elections going forward?

All they have to do is create a national voter ID registry and then pick and choose who gets to vote.

[stopdiggin]

28. I don't know. But I will assume that elections

are our way forward .... Until presented with overwhelming evidence otherwise. And even then - I'm not sure if I'm willing or interested in pursuing some other 'path'. You?

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[krawhitham]

6. Not Wrong, but

we still need to win or the planet will end up a giant fireball


So just tell them whatever it takes to win, the truth no longer matters, just what they believe

[julmur]

7. Indeed

This is EXACTLY how I feel.

[Traildogbob]

8. How interesting

Is it that Germany hosted an American Football game, with lots of “Blacks” the week we elected a Nazi Government.
They came so for from a Hitler regime, and we took our country right back to what we died to rid them of.God be Blessin MurKKKa.
Oh, no need to thank me for my service. We all just saw the appreciation from our country.

[SoCalDavidS]

9. No Disrespect

But I'm referring to tomorrow as Suckers & Losers Day. Because the majority of this country voted for someone who in no uncertain terms, believes that to be true. I don't recall Vice President Harris ever saying something like that.

[Traildogbob]

15. This veteran

Is not disrespected by your comment.
I am disrespected by the Dems deciding a minute to vote for what we served for, was too much a sacrifice. Not to mention all the 1/2 of the country that never votes
My service was during a time we had no legal right to vote. But could go die for the “Cause”.

[Traildogbob]

20. Also,

I was referring to the GQP Nazis, not you SoCalDavis.i totally respect your voice here.
We still like to hear it from the people that mean it, and make their own sacrifices. That’s who we were proud to serve for. Always will be.
But MAGA et al, here’s a little Will Smith for them. “Keep my fucking service out if your mouth”.

[ButchMcMuffin]

62. 75M is not the majority

The minority is running the shit show. Which is even more fucked up.

[JoeBydun]

10. Donald Dump

And in 2028 if there are even fair elections left a democrat will need to clean up trumps mess. AGAIN!!

[SoCalDavidS]

12. Then We'll Get Blamed For Any Pain Along The Way

EVEN if we're successful in the end.

[kansasobama]

14. Some things we could do or not do

Do not respond to Gaza fund raising requests. When deportation starts, I know I have to bite the bullet and keep quiet. That is sad but I may not have a choice. There will be chaos.

We have to really make sure we do not support anything that furthers Trump economics. They will expect lot of charity out of the goodness of our heart. This is code word for Trump won't spend on programs, let it go to tax cuts. No charity.

[kansasobama]

17. Dems only agenda needs to be

Absolutely no cooperation.

[kansasobama]

18. 48% voted against Trump

Do not be nice, Dems.

[BattleRow]

23. How much you wanna bet this coming Fourth of July will be the grandest ever?

[johnnyfins]

25. Yep, complete with a giant military parade

Through the streets of DC. TSF may even put the uniform on.

[BattleRow]

79. Perhaps even sporting a mustache?

[johnnyfins]

24. I am asking every local business where I

Spend my money if the owner supported Trump. If I get a yes, business goes elsewhere. I'm done with these fuckers.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. The MAGAS base is 35% or so of the country.

There were enough Americans who thought eggs cost too much that joined them. That tipped the election.

[Ray Bruns]

39. It was the misogeny and the racism

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. The administration had a 40% approval rating in exit polls

No American incumbent political party has held the presideny with such abysmal numbers; Stevenson lost, Humphrey lost, Carter lost, Bush Pere lost, and John McCain lost.

[DemonGoddess]

42. Eggs were an excuse

so they could hide their misogyny. FFS did these morons not realize that culling millions of fowl because of a flu epidemic would impact prices? And not just with eggs alone, but all the many things made with eggs???

[Dem4life1234]

56. It was voter suppression in my opinion

That bastard ain't that popular

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. We have exit polls

Exit polls are rough checks on the actual results and the latter confirmed the former. It's hard for me to believe Edison Research which has been doing this for at least fifty years was in on the ruse. It's not that he is popular. He was just a little more popular than us because people blamed us for higher prices.

[world wide wally]

30. Apparently, the old adage of "Live and let live" has been relegated to an archaic idea.

[LudwigPastorius]

31. _

[louis-t]

32. Their idea of 'unity' is

we have to agree with everything the orange monster says.

[mountain grammy]

33. I disagree. We did a lot wrong

BUT nothing compares to what republicans have done for the last 35 years from Gingrich to Bush v Gore to this asshole ..Nothing!
And nothing justifies what republicans will do to satisfy those who can never be satisfied.

Anyway good rant.

[orangecrush]

36. Yup

Regretfully, I think you've nailed it 100%.

[aeromanKC]

38. America is a lie!!

George Carlin had it right the whole time.

[Martin68]

41. I don't agree with either the "we are the greatest country in the world" crowd" or the "fuck this country and all it

stands for" contingent. I think the best of us are great, and the worst of us are monsters. We are just another country with the ups and downs every country has. Sure, we have a lot of influence due to our huge economy, powerful military, and occasionally brilliant innovation, but reality is always yin and yang, positive and negative in combat or trying to make peace.

[Liberal In Red State]

43. AMEN AMEN AMEN !!!!!!

[Unca Jim]

44. I feel your rage, but...

Life is very hard for a lot of people right now, and it only got harder during the Biden administration. Things got more expensive, people can't afford a place to live in most metro areas, health care is worse and costs more, wages have not kept up, etc.

I get it, Harris had a lot of good ideas to help. Many of those things aren't the Biden administration's fault.

But many people remember they had it better under Trump when the Obama economy was delivering for them.

It's not fair, but there it is.

Also, racism and misogyny are either things people can convince themselves aren't real or aren't dealbreakers for them.

[paleotn]

66. It wasn't all fucking wine and roses 2017 thru 2020. I guess you slept through Covid.

Inflation PEAKED on Donny's watch in 2020. And you completely forgot about Medicare now being able to negotiate drug prices. The CHIPS bill and on and on. Oh, but you're worried about the price of fucking eggs.

This is a matter of messaging and attitude. It's a failure in leadership on our part. Leadership means having the strength to kick the other guys in the fucking balls when necessary. To not hold back because you want to seem all statesmanlike or something. To lead no matter how it looks to the press or anyone else.

The message should be....the pain you're feeling is because Donny fucked up Covid and we're still cleaning up the goddamn mess. The pain you're feeling is Wall Street finding a cash cow in rental property and Republicans not letting us do a goddamn about it. The pain your feeling is because Repukes love all that shit, get paid to advocate and protect it and won't allow Dems to fix it. Just be painfully, bluntly honest. Stop voting Repuke, stop fucking yourself and let us fix the problems. That's the message. Our political ancestors were far better at messaging than the current crop. We need to get our sand back. Not get all mealy mouthed about the price of fucking eggs or have memory lapses as your apparently are.

[Unca Jim]

81. Fine

Some of both would be nice.

[Paladin]

45. Post Of The Day, as far as I'm concerned.

Nice job, SoCalDavidS.

[Beacool]

48. Hear, hear!!!

[alarimer]

49. To say we did nothing wrong is wrong.

We cannot continue to whistle past the graveyard.

People simply didn't want what we were trying to sell them. There are lots of reasons for that, a big one being the firehose of lies put out by the other side and for which we have no good counter.

But also, stop touting the stock market as evidence the economy is good. It has nothing to do with how people perceive the economy.

Also stop cozying up to the GOP. Nobody likes Liz Cheney, not current Republicans voters and not current Democratic voters and probably not independents either.

[ColinC]

52. You know, I could see Trump ending his support for Israel entirely as a repayment to Dearborn.

Especially if the Jewish vote was as entirely against him as was said prior to the election... such an act could turn Arab Americans almost entirely permanently Republican.

[ButchMcMuffin]

53. Yes. We are all...

Sliding down that Shining Shithole On the Hill

[paleotn]

54. I get it, but surrender is not an option.

Sorry. I don't do that. Doesn't mean I'm going to be nice to them. Nice just doesn't fit my DNA. Fairness does. Equality does. But not nice. As my wife says, I do not suffer fools and they know it. I'm most certainly NOT the kumbaya wing of the Democratic Party. I've advocated for some time that we dump that shit, jump in the gutter and get nasty, to little avail. That's the Democratic Party I grew up in. The one Republicans feared. They don't fear us anymore. They should.

You're going through the stages of grief. You're in anger now. I've been there this week too. But I moved on because in my mind what we're fighting for is worth fighting for. And I for one will not stop. Even if it means splitting the country so we can live in a fair, equitable society and they can go rot, I'm all for it. But I'm not giving up on the promise of this nation.

[John4P]

55. We should consider splitting up the country, and living separately.

America is hopelessly divided, and we'd all be better off splitting up the country, and everyone can then choose which side they want to live on.

[Lulu KC]

80. Like the Confederacy? N/t

[Jeebo]

59. For the first time in my life, I am NOT glad or proud to be an American.

I would leave the country but for three problems: 1) I can't afford it; 2) I'm too old to take the stresses of making such a move; and 3) We all need to stay here and continue the fight, because when we stop fighting, that's when they really win.

I'm 74 years old and my health isn't good. I am actually glad that I probably will not be above the ground for much longer, because I know I am not going to like the world we'll all be living in, in the coming years.

— Ron

[mellow]

67. OH, HELL NO. Fuck the fascists -- not our country.

There's nothing more helpful to the anti-American fascists than the left dissing the United States of America.

Our country is us. All of us.

You're angry. Point that anger somewhere useful -- not somewhere that's self-defeating.

[yankee87]

68. Let it Burn

Let’s face it, pretty soon we’ll no vaccinated people, no federal help for blue states. It was coming now with the rapist or just the next one.
We have a president who performed a blow job on stage.
Here goes the detention camps, gestapo like police.
Let the idiots have everything they want.

I will vote, but that is it.
Just tired

[A-Seeker]

69. Pretty much how I feel.

I am done.

[notroot]

70. Right there with ya.

[SARose]

71. Millions of Americans were convinced

that children with ambiguous genitalia were a bigger threat than a convicted sexual predator.

Millions of Americans were convinced they are worse off today than 4 years ago. I guess they forgot the bodies stacking up in refrigerator trucks and the complete shut down of the world economy.

Millions of Americans were convinced that immigrants were eating pets.

Millions of Americans are convinced that poor people of color are getting more benefits than them.

We were out messaged, out marketed, out lawyered, and out judged.

Okay. As my Mother said “ you’ve made your bed now lay in it.”

In my opinion, this is the second time we lost because the Old Guard, elite Dems will not move to the center; will not spend money on younger Dems; will not put term limits on Congress and more. Too many elite Dems want to run on social issues and the Trumpers are pounding us into the ground.

Nobody cheated. Nobody stole votes. We lost because we are out of touch with middle class Americans, blue collar workers, farmers, and unions i.e., our historic base.

Just my two cents.

[EnergizedLib]

72. Alexa, play I Don't Care Anymore by Phil Collins

https://m.

&pp=ygUhaSBkb24ndCBjYXJlIGFueW1vcmUgcGhpbCBjb2xsaW5z

[Marigold]

73. Right there with you

It was inevitable once people had a choice between Satan and any other sane semi competent human being. Whether man, woman, black, white, old, young, whatever. And they chose Satan. And not only did they choose Satan, they chose his minions to continue the shit show Republicans in congress and the senate have been engaged in for years. This is what America wants. Let's see how it goes.

[Nevergivein89]

74. Mistakes

I think the economy and the fact that people are struggling is why Trump was elected. I watched videos of how many poor people and immigrants that can't afford to feed themselves going on four years now that voted for him. Maybe the party should have listened to them and resonate more on what people need. The media mislead everyone it seems again much like 2016 and the result has failed us once again.

[TBF]

75. Did the media (I assume you mean the big players) mislead everyone -

or are they complicit?

[pwb]

76. I tend to save when pukes are in control.

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[Nimble_Idea]

77. In honor of Righteous rage:

[Meowmee]

78. I agree it is a lot on them

But mistakes were made by dems and it needs to be analyzed at some point.