Do many of Trump's supporters believe he has good intentions?

[kentuck]

That what he is doing is for the benefit of our country, rather than for the benefit of himself?

Do they see him as an honest, principled man trying to save our country?

Are they now at the point where they can rationalize anything that he does as either brilliant or just playing games with "libs"?

What do they say just before they hit the pavement, as they are shoved out of a window, Russian-style?

[LonePirate]

1. All of them believe his intentions are pure and just.

Of course all of them are incredibly stupid and naive.

[rampartd]

30. trump is annointed by jesus

all democrats, to them, are enemy communist pedophile trannies and only trump can save them.

[yellow dahlia]

2. They are being brainwashed on RWmedia.

The way they are promoting DOGE and justifying what they are doing is complete propaganda.

[DBoon]

3. No

They support him because he is evil and will hurt the same people they despise


They really want to see anyone who is no like them suffer

[sop]

4. They act much like the People's Temple suiciders in Jonestown.

[Johnny2X2X]

5. Half are just cynics

They believe everyone in politics lies, cheats, and steals, so Trump lying cheating and stealing is normal and at least he's destroying the government that they hate so much because they're pretty sure the government only exists to lie, cheat, and steal from them.

Yes, they're fucking idiots.

[Walleye]

12. That is pretty much the correct explanation unfortunately

[uponit7771]

16. Yep, that's such a privileged stance from people who are broke too.

[ScratchCat]

29. Yep, describes almost every maga I know

If you point out that Trump is a criminal, they just reply that so are all the other Democrats. They simply think he will do their bidding.

[unblock]

6. i think a lot of them are laughing their asses off at how they are "pwning" the libs.

and they're laughing their asses off with the rhetorical games they play.

donnie made it acceptable for them to never admit mistakes, never apologize, always insist they are pure and good and so on, and anyone who disagrees is evil and stupid and such.

some of them actually believe all this, but probably at least as many know damn well this not a correct, it's just a way they talk about it in order to "win" every argument.

it's all part of the resentment agenda. they're fed up with having been on the losing side of every political argument for ages, they're thrilled to have a way to win -- simply by refusing to ever admit they're wrong.

[Avalon Sparks]

7. My Mom does

No matter what I tell her or facts I provide she thinks Trump is an excellent business man and only wants to help America.

She is 89, and watches Fox News for 3 hours or so a day.

If I give her any conflicting information, she tells me it upsets her, and she just wants to be happy during her last days and think happy thoughts. She fully admitted she just wants to believe what she wants to believe and that’s comforting.

My Mom is the only Trump supporter in my circle of family, friends, and work circle. It’s almost like she is the token representative, and even though she did not vote in 2024, I sometimes want to vent to her my thoughts about his supporters. It’s been hard for me to hold my tongue this last month. There is no way I could ever cut her out of my life, she is a sweet, sweet women and I love her so much.

She has started watching some CNN to balance out the fox over the last couple of weeks. She only has TV for resources, she doesn’t use the internet. She told me she is not hearing CNN talk about any of the stuff I’ve shared with her, she stated CNN doesn’t seem alarmed over anything Trumps done.

She also doesn’t believe that Musk is doing anything that Trump hasn’t told him to. She told me that if I knew Donald Trump, he would never let anyone else be in charge.

I’ve decided we won’t be discussing politics anymore.

[hamsterjill]

8. They believe he has been anointed by God.

I kid you not. I posted this a couple of days ago which is an example.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220071864

[cachukis]

9. Have you noticed that his chagrinned supporters

who have been cut off from funding or lost their jobs still believe in his policies.
That is an indicator that voters, for the most part, believe their votes and electeds are free from error. It is the other members of congress or presidential choice that was at fault.
Acceptance of making a wrong choice would be a self belittling and weak minds generally cannot handle that.

[GoodRaisin]

21. It's hard to cut them from their umbilical cord to Fox News.

[dutch777]

10. As long as he seems attentive to their one or two issues, they'll give him a pass on the rest.

I was in the army in Germany in the 1970s and there were older Germans that lived thru the war that I became acquainted with. It didn't come up often, but when Hitler was mentioned it was amazing the number that defended him with statements like "...yes, but he made the trains run on time!". Sadly, I think that is where many Americans are.

[keep_left]

11. "He's not hurting the right people!". That was a clue to Trump's appeal...

...from a NYT article back in 2019.

That was the bon mot from an interview with a MAGA chud in the NYT. Chud lives are apparently miserable enough that if Trump isn't beating up on minorities, poor people, LGBTQ, etc. on a regular basis, they go into a tailspin because Trump isn't giving them their constant media dopamine hit to which they have become accustomed.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219566515#post2
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/florida-government-shutdown-marianna.html

The full quote is "I thought he was going to do good things. He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting!"...Trump's policies weren't attacking the brown people enough, and were in fact harming nice white people like her.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219776302#post82

[Johonny]

24. Yeah, I assume MAGA voters assume his bad

Intentions match their own. This turns out to only be partially true.

[Walleye]

13. What I wanna know is what is Elon Musk getting out of all this, and I want some reporters to hammer him on that point

[NameAlreadyTaken]

23. He had said that if Trump didn't win he would go to jail

So he's been able to fire the people who were investigating him and stay out of jail. Also, he's been making more billions and more billions and more and more. Plus he's getting to go on a narcissistic ego trip.

[Walleye]

25. Yes, that's exactly what's going on. Still I would like to see the question put to him if we had a reporter working.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. FAA $2 billion contract and that's just for starters. . . . nt

[Walleye]

33. Exactly, just for starters. But why put all these people out of work?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. To, as Norquist said, "To drown federal government in a bathtub". . . . . nt

[uponit7771]

14. Good intentions ***FOR THEM*** they acknowledge he wanted to hurt "the others"

[artemisia1]

15. NO. Many like his evil intentions. He strikes out at those they hate for being different. They love this. /nt

[Irish_Dem]

17. They love Trump because his intentions are bad and evil.

Trump will hurt the people they hate.

[Ol Janx Spirit]

18. I live in the Stupid Belt: a very red area of a very red state...

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...and I find that members of the TQP (there is no GOP anymore) fall into four groups:

The first--and probably largest--group is comprised of people that actually do not pay much attention to politics, but have been convinced over time that they are conservative and should only vote for "conservatives." This is a relatively new thing. Before Obama was elected, Democrats did well in these rural counties and brought services like high-speed Internet and jobs to the area. After Obama was elected and the ACA passed they decided all government was evil and have fallen into a slow decline. This group will tell you that they don't like a lot of what is happening, but they feel that whatever happens is way better than what destruction any democrat would have wrought on America. The constant moving of goal posts and deflecting any constructive conversation away from that and towards, "what about trans kids in sports," is endlessly frustrating. Still, they feel the most reachable.

The second--somewhat smaller--group only care about tax cuts. That's it. So long as their family is wealthy enough not to need government services the hell with everyone else, and a large part of that is not taking any of their money to pay for anything else--including the things they demand like a strong military. Make no mistake: they don't even care about deficits. They are only in it for the greed and are completely unreachable.

The third group are the full-blown racist rednecks that only feel what passes for happiness in their miserable lives when their chosen politicians are making other people miserable. It seems like this group is fairly small--possibly the smallest--but have completely reshaped the Republican party in their image. They do not seem to care about anything but unfettered access to whatever type of guns they want to own and shoot at effigies of their most hated politicians or celebrities, making life for anyone not like them a living hell, stomping--in many cases literally--on anything other people find pleasure in, restoring the nation to a state of white-supremacy, and--oddly--wrecking the environment in any way they see fit. They don't even care about money or taxes--they are in it for the hate and aggrievement, and they are completely insane and unreachable.

The forth are the most confusing: Christians--specifically evangelical Christians. They truly do believe that there is divine intervention at work here, and the word of god somehow flows from the unfit clown. This is largely because of the Supreme Court and the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Everything that follows must be divine. Every bit of the pain he causes anyone is part of a grand plan. They mostly blindly support it all. This is in part because religion has primed them from a very early age to fall in line behind a belief system--even when that belief system is perverted into something completely different. Cults work this way, and this truly appears to be a cult. This group is the only one that seems to actually believe that he is "an honest, principled man trying to save our country." The other three groups know better and do not really care--although the first group seems to be the most uneasy with it.

What each group does have in common is that just before they hit the pavement after having been shoved out of a window Russian-style they will likely say, "I really did not see that coming." Sadly, some will be fine with it....

[creon]

20. Correct

You have done good job describing most of the people who vote for Trump

[ScratchCat]

32. Spot on

You took the time to write what I have been trying to put down for quite a while.

[Emit]

19. They are so propagandized that they do believe he's doing good things.

It is unbelievable the conspiracy theories they believe about deep state, Biden, liberals, etc. Having no trusted common new sources has contributed to this thanks to Reagan in '87 for getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine and sadly, Clinton, in the 90s, deregulating media with the Telecommunications Act. It's scary. They are not seeing, reading, discussing, or listening to the same things as those of us on the center or left. All of us to the left of them (all non MAGA supporters) have been made to be the enemy. So scary.

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

[NameAlreadyTaken]

22. No. He hurts who they hate.

And that's all that matters to them. It doesn't even matter to them if they get hurt as collateral damage. As long as who they hate gets hurt, they are happy.

[Omnipresent]

26. They still say he's a successful businessman!

For one thing, filling for bankruptcy on a Casino, shouldn’t be a thing that ever happens!

[Klarkashton]

27. Maga is ok with everything as long as he doesn't

Start a war. At least that's what some anecdotal "maga on the street" interviews said.
That's a pretty low fucking bar.

[Callie1979]

31. Yes they do. They also believe all the tripe they've been told about Biden

You know Joe Biden killed 100 million chickens. And he's also responsible for higher car & home insurance rates. And higher electric rates. ALL things ANY president has ZERO to do with.
Throw in "Hunter & the Biden crime family" BS they've been fed for 4 years and there you have it
These are also EDUCATED PEOPLE because I know them.