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keep_left

(3,223 posts)
4. That's because he's a Groyper, which is really inconvenient...
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 02:32 PM
Sep 2025

...when it comes to selling their phony narrative.

https://democraticunderground.com/100220645348#post6
https://democraticunderground.com/10143530389#post20
https://democraticunderground.com/100220644524#post8

Apropos of the shooter's motivation...David Shuster posted...to X the other day about the shooter's admiration for Fuentes/Groyper ideology. It differs greatly from the phony narrative which so many in the Trump regime have been slaving like stevedores to sell to the general public.

BTW, according to DUer "proud patriot", Shuster will be on the Stephanie Miller show tomorrow morning (9/16).

Today's Stephanie Miller Show should post later at: https://www.politicalvoicesnetwork.com/t/shows



David Shuster's little-noticed X post from 9/12:

According to Utah officials + police interviews with his family, Tyler Robinson hated Charlie Kirk because Kirk wasn't conservative enough. (Robinson reportedly admired Nick Fuentes). GOPer's now scrubbing X posts about dems faster than DOJ erases Trump name in Epstein files.


WarGamer

(18,859 posts)
7. I haven't seen a single fact supporting that theory.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 03:49 PM
Sep 2025

In fact the evidence we have seen makes it sound silly.

keep_left

(3,223 posts)
9. There is not unequivocal evidence yet.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 03:55 PM
Sep 2025

But I'm listening to David Shuster, the reporter who made the post on X that I quoted (and which has not been retracted, unlike a widely-publicized article from the Guardian which argued the opposite, which was retracted). I'm also going to listen to Shuster on Stephanie Miller's show as soon as it''s posted.

WarGamer

(18,859 posts)
12. I'm just going by the obvious stuff.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:15 PM
Sep 2025

There are reports that Robinson spoke with family members in the hours before the shooting how he hated CK because he was full of hate and spread that hate.

#2. the roommate who he may or may not be romantically involved with had a family member say he was vehemently anti-conservative.

This is from Tyler Robinson's MOTHER

Robinson’s mother also told investigators that “over the last year or so, her son had become more political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro gay and trans-rights oriented,” Gray said.

Robinson’s mother also told police that he “began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders,” the prosecutor said.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/16/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-charges.html

keep_left

(3,223 posts)
16. Yes, and reporter David Shuster claims sources inside...
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:24 PM
Sep 2025

...the case--including law enforcement--who say otherwise. So who knows for sure?

The reality might be quite complicated, involving serious mental illness. A lot of Nick Fuentes followers do not strike me as particularly rational, stable individuals (to say the least). I'm hoping to hear to what Shuster had to say this morning on Stephanie Miller's show as soon as it is posted to her site.

pcdb

(132 posts)
14. Because there isn't any evidence to support that theory
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:20 PM
Sep 2025

I think people are finding it hard to believe that someone on the left would do something like this, but that appears to be what happened.

Not that I'm not enjoying the bonkers groyper conspiracy theories.

AntiFascist

(13,756 posts)
6. Prejudice the jury much?
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 03:22 PM
Sep 2025

Listening to the prosecutor spew details about Robinson's romantic relationship with his "biological male" roommate reminds of Utah Mormon's rabid support of Prop 8 in California, which ultimately failed. I cringe to think about the potential backlash against the LGBTQ community.

moondust

(21,352 posts)
8. I watched most of it.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 03:55 PM
Sep 2025

Doing a search for the shooter's note to his roommate it's clear the right wants to make this all about the shooter's hatred of Kirk.

NBC News:

"When asked why he did it, Robinson explained there is too much evil in the guy, referring to Charlie Kirk," said Jeff Gray, the chief Utah County prosecutor.

And in a text chat with his roommate, Robinson allegedly said he had to kill Kirk when the opportunity presented itself.

"I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out," Robinson told his roommate, according to Gray. "If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence."

Which adds up to hatred and intolerance of hatred.

AntiFascist

(13,756 posts)
13. The Right wants to make this all about condemnation of the Left...
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:19 PM
Sep 2025

as Patel and the DOJ desperately try to pretzel together a massive conspiracy by the Left leading to the shooting. I think Patel should stick to writing children's fantasy books.

moondust

(21,352 posts)
17. Of course.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:26 PM
Sep 2025

Exploiters gonna exploit anything they can to their own benefit even if they have to invent a lot of bullshit.

FloridaBlues

(4,684 posts)
10. We really haven't heard much about what his socal media interaction or who he followed in socal media.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:07 PM
Sep 2025

Perhaps not the leftist the maga group want you to believe.
Interesting about no political questions when trump lies about who is to blame.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,222 posts)
15. Kirk was a blatantly political figure, recruiting like-minded students.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:22 PM
Sep 2025

How in hell does one NOT ask a question that doesn't have at least a little political context?

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