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ancianita

(43,162 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:42 PM Jan 24

Schumer: Democrats will block spending bill if it includes Homeland Security funding

Source: AP

BY MARY CLARE JALONICK

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said Senate Democrats will not vote for a spending package that includes money for the Department of Homeland Security.

Schumer’s statement increases the possibility that the government could partially shut down Jan. 30 when funding runs out. Several Democrats said Saturday that they will not vote for the bipartisan package of bills, which will need some Democratic votes to pass.

Democrats say the legislation, which includes money for a broad swath of government agencies, does not include enough restrictions on ICE.

“Democrats sought common sense reforms in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because of Republicans’ refusal to stand up to President Trump, the DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses of ICE,” Schumer said. “I will vote no.“

Read more: https://apnews.com/live/minneapolis-ice-shooting-updates-1-24-2026#0000019b-f176-d06e-affb-f3fed5f90000

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Schumer: Democrats will block spending bill if it includes Homeland Security funding (Original Post) ancianita Jan 24 OP
Doubtful . We've seen this before. They fold. Bread and Circuses Jan 24 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Jan 24 #19
You think the public is on the side of DHS? 52% of all Americans say that ICE is making communities less safe only 31% ancianita Jan 24 #21
Sorry, I worded that very badly, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 24 #23
Whew. If it's too much combat that's affecting you, I feel you. ancianita Jan 24 #29
Thanks Chuck. You missed the boat. It left long ago. chicoescuela Jan 24 #30
Tell him. 202-224-6542. It takes two minutes to leave a message or talk to his clerk who records messaging. ancianita Jan 24 #34
The rank and file abandoned Schumer the first time he caved and he's not shown any sign of changing. lees1975 Jan 25 #49
Then your message to him should be, "Do you want to lose the midterms? If not, find a way to stop DHS funding." CrispyQ Jan 25 #53
+1!! We should bomb him with calls! Overload his vmail! CrispyQ Jan 25 #52
Great habit you have. We all need to do what you do. Thank you for the link! ancianita Jan 30 #68
If you want to be sure to get vmail, call on the weekend. CrispyQ Jan 30 #69
Thanks. I believe ancianita Jan 30 #70
Oh yes. Op-eds in my local paper have given me great ideas for messages. CrispyQ Sunday #71
Now don't fucking back down Mysterian Jan 24 #2
He needs the Pelosi Gentle-but-so-Effective Arm Twisting seminar. -nt CrispyQ Jan 25 #54
Post removed Post removed Jan 24 #3
It shouldn't have passed the House. tblue37 Jan 24 #4
They will cave. Cobalt Violet Jan 24 #5
Things are different now and you know they know it. ancianita Jan 24 #12
No, we don't know it. FoxNewsSucks Jan 24 #15
We know that three of the eight who voted yes said they will now vote no. You're right, but I think there's momentum. ancianita Jan 24 #18
when their corporate masters start complaining about the shut down they will cave. Cobalt Violet Jan 25 #45
The House could have stopped ICE funding 2 days ago iemanja Jan 24 #36
told you so! Cobalt Violet Jan 29 #66
Call him! Tell him, no funds for DHS thugs who terrorize our neighborhoods. CrispyQ Jan 25 #55
Doesn't the debt ceiling expire at the end of January? Fiendish Thingy Jan 24 #6
No. The debt ceiling isn't expected to be reached until sometime in 2027 onenote Jan 24 #14
It's the right thing Senator, don't back down. Buddyzbuddy Jan 24 #7
No more VanceFan Jan 24 #8
And ... take away Noem's two newly purchased planes! nt in2herbs Jan 24 #13
Leader must make sure no dems vote for funding, another vote that will decide the future of the party, don't fuck it up yaesu Jan 24 #9
It only takes one Democrat -- Schumer, or MN's Klobuchar or Smith, or others who are deciding against funding DHS... ancianita Jan 24 #10
I hope you're right, FoxNewsSucks Jan 24 #16
Nope. Just four like him: Shaheen, Hassan, King, and believe it or not, the senate whip, Durbin himself. ancianita Jan 24 #27
I doube there's even one D who will change their vote to R because they are mad at another shutdown. nt in2herbs Jan 24 #11
I really hope he means it this time. And I hope every Senator follows suit. Scrivener7 Jan 24 #17
Durbin, as the longest standing senate whip, should be all in on this, his last term in office. We'll see if he whips a ancianita Jan 24 #22
I want to trust him. Gore1FL Jan 24 #20
Tell Schumer that. 202-224-6542. ancianita Jan 24 #26
I have little confidence in the intestinal fortitude of Schumer. Sorry to say that, but I do. I've seen him fold too PatrickforB Jan 24 #24
If Schumer says he'll put a hold on the vote, I believe him. Better he loses control of the 8 than the remaining 42 ancianita Jan 24 #31
Good for you! CrispyQ Jan 25 #57
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Jan 24 #25
Hate to go all Machiavellian here paleotn Jan 24 #28
It's not Machiavellian, paleotn.It's Rational, Moral & Brilliant! THE general strike led by Democrats of the Senate! ancianita Jan 24 #32
Finally waking up, I hope. Sanity Claws Jan 24 #33
Here. Wake him up to this on Bluesky. Culture there is beating politics every day. ancianita Jan 24 #35
Chuckles found his balls? I doubt it ........ joanbarnes Jan 24 #37
Chuckles? balls? ancianita Jan 24 #38
Sure you will, Chuck. Queso Delicioso Jan 24 #39
... ancianita Jan 24 #40
AOC. Or someone similarly ruthless. Queso Delicioso Jan 24 #41
She's a Rep. so is in the House, the leader in the House is Hakeem Jeffries Rhiannon12866 Jan 25 #42
True now, perhaps not true later. Queso Delicioso Jan 25 #62
Chris Murphy. Scrivener7 Jan 25 #43
I hope to God they do block the spending bill Beringia Jan 25 #44
Yeah, cool story schumer Javaman Jan 25 #46
Tell me when they have done it. Otherwise that's just one more headline. Ford_Prefect Jan 25 #47
That is a great move, if they will actually do it. lees1975 Jan 25 #48
This shutdown will last until the midterms MichMan Jan 25 #50
Good. The people will blame the administration, not the minority party. ancianita Jan 25 #58
Hard to say who gets blamed MichMan Jan 25 #59
Not for me... ancianita Jan 25 #60
Saw nothing in the OP about Schumer not funding the government over Epstein MichMan Jan 25 #61
Okay. Fair point. ancianita Jan 25 #63
Every. Single. Dem. Must. Vote. To Block. Ich. Spending. Clouds Passing Jan 25 #51
"I wonder if Lucy will let me kick the football this time?" Oneironaut Jan 25 #56
ICE would still operate in a partial government shutdown MichMan Jan 28 #64
Even if DHS gets no funding henbuck Jan 28 #65
Sure Chuck... Luciferous Jan 29 #67

Response to Bread and Circuses (Reply #1)

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
21. You think the public is on the side of DHS? 52% of all Americans say that ICE is making communities less safe only 31%
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:27 PM
Jan 24

it's making communities more safe. Are the other 17% braindead or hiding?

You think DHS polling will go up?

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
34. Tell him. 202-224-6542. It takes two minutes to leave a message or talk to his clerk who records messaging.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:23 PM
Jan 24

He needs to know he's losing trust with party rank and file.

lees1975

(6,956 posts)
49. The rank and file abandoned Schumer the first time he caved and he's not shown any sign of changing.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:23 AM
Jan 25

I left him behind during the first two years of Biden's first term, with all the delays, foot dragging, and shilly-shallying he's done since he's been the Senate Democratic leader.

We shall see if he can read the signs, be discerning and realize that this will be a bigger win than the Democrats have had since we got the ACA passed. Because that's the way to get things done now, not the old school bipartisan game playing. We've been kicked in the teeth every time the GOP gets in power, it is now time to kick back hard.

CrispyQ

(40,807 posts)
53. Then your message to him should be, "Do you want to lose the midterms? If not, find a way to stop DHS funding."
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:31 AM
Jan 25

His own seat may not be at risk, & maybe they can't win back the senate, but every seat counts, even in the House, & he knows that.

IDK. I just think that calling is such an easy thing to do, especially since we all have smart phones. It's much easier than planning a day long protest. Nothing against the protests, but I don't understand why we aren't ringing their phones off the hook. Our reps actually do pay attention to calls & postcards. Somewhere else in this thread I mentioned that the last time we flooded them with calls was the financial crisis of 2008. We the People made the news! Seems like this is just as important.

Not sure what to say? The site/app below tracks issues & bills & has sample text for your calls & postcards. Phone in your resistance! ☎️

https://5calls.org

CrispyQ

(40,807 posts)
52. +1!! We should bomb him with calls! Overload his vmail!
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:18 AM
Jan 25

Let him come back tomorrow to full vmail boxes in DC & NY. And then we should all call all our own reps & do the same. They should be in our contacts list. Our congressional reps actually do pay attention to the number of calls they get. Postcards too, but those are slower.

I wasn't very consistent with calls until I started weekly PT, & now I call every week in my car, after my appointment. It takes ten minutes or less to make three calls. I recycle messages, & some messages are just one liners. It doesn't matter what you say, as much as that you make the calls. Also, you almost always get vmail, rarely a live person. But in case you do...

Not sure what to say? Check out this site/app. They make it easy! They track issues & bills & have sample text for your messages/postcards.

https://5calls.org

Our vote is our voice, but our part in this democracy doesn't stop at the ballot box. We need to use our voice between elections to keep our reps on track & remind them who they work for. The last time we overloaded congressional vmail boxes was the financial crisis of 2008. Isn't saving our country just as important?

Phone in your resistance!! ☎️

Thanks for Schumer's number. I'll be calling for sure! My reps, too. I like the idea of loading their boxes over the weekend.

CrispyQ

(40,807 posts)
69. If you want to be sure to get vmail, call on the weekend.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 11:21 AM
Jan 30

Phone in your resistance! ☎️☎️☎️

https://5calls.org

Capitol Switchboard: (202) 224-3121
You can connect with senators & reps at this number.

They have local offices, too, & if an issue is hot & their vmail is full at DC, try a local office. I believe it's just as important to call your republican reps as your democratic ones. Maybe more, so they know they have dem constituents.

Other tips. It's proper to leave your full name & zip code at the end. If you care enough to call then you should stand behind your message with your name, & the zip is so they know what district you live in. Chuck Schumer takes calls from all over the country, so zips are helpful. Needless to say you should be polite, but I've expressed frustration with a swear word or two, although never directed at my congressmen.

The time it takes to plan & attend one protest would probably cover a month or two worth of calls. Once you get in the habit you'd be surprised how quick it is. I often compose my messages at night while watching TV. Calling every week is like working out; you have to make the time. But there's not an easier or more effective way to protest. ☎️

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
70. Thanks. I believe
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 06:37 PM
Jan 30

all responses are pressure whether it's protesting or calling or writing op-eds or donating. You've got great ideas about an efficient use of our time, which are appreciated. And i'm sure you're not being either/or about any of this. And it's also true that a lot of us do at least two or these. Because engaged folks believe that any time is worth our time to use our 1A rights for the democratic cause. When folks take seriously what's important, they don't consider them inconvenient.

Again, thanks!

CrispyQ

(40,807 posts)
71. Oh yes. Op-eds in my local paper have given me great ideas for messages.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 10:01 AM
Sunday

I've always called, but never consistently, only when there's a heated issue like J6, or an important bill coming up. Then in November I started PT, & I remembered how many people film videos in their car, & I thought, that's a perfect time & place for privacy, & since then I've been calling weekly. I would call our current events a heated issue.

Response to ancianita (Original post)

FoxNewsSucks

(11,548 posts)
15. No, we don't know it.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:13 PM
Jan 24

Elected Dems could have acted previously and did not.

They still don't. THe 220-207 vote which passed the DHS funding means that the seven DEMS who voted fucking YES changed that from what should have been 213-214 AGAINST.

So yeah, we "don't know they know it" when enough stab us in the back to make sure republicon bullshit passes.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
18. We know that three of the eight who voted yes said they will now vote no. You're right, but I think there's momentum.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:18 PM
Jan 24

Nevada Sens. Jacky Rosen and Catherine Cortez Masto, who were two of the eight Democrats who voted against their party to end the 43-day government shutdown last year, both said Saturday that they will not support the measure funding DHS. Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia, another one of those eight Democrats, already said Friday he would not support funding DHS.

iemanja

(57,622 posts)
36. The House could have stopped ICE funding 2 days ago
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:30 PM
Jan 24

24 Republicans voted against the bill. 7 Democrats voted for it. Without those Democratic votes, it would not have passed.

I do hope things have changes now, but I can’t feel sure.

CrispyQ

(40,807 posts)
55. Call him! Tell him, no funds for DHS thugs who terrorize our neighborhoods.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:40 AM
Jan 25

Post 34 has his phone number.
https://democraticunderground.com/10143604513#post34

We should fill his vmail box up for a nice Monday morning surprise.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,458 posts)
6. Doesn't the debt ceiling expire at the end of January?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:22 PM
Jan 24
Thats the leverage a strong leader would use - a government shutdown and a debt default unless the spending bill not only excludes ICE funding, but includes language removing qualified immunity and restricting agents use of force.

onenote

(46,056 posts)
14. No. The debt ceiling isn't expected to be reached until sometime in 2027
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:38 PM
Jan 24

Stopgap funding for the government was approved through January 30 -- that's the deadline that is relevant now. Some approps bills have been passed by the House, including the one that covers DHS. But the Senate still needs to act.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,318 posts)
7. It's the right thing Senator, don't back down.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:24 PM
Jan 24

The defense shouldn't recieve money either.
Republicans need to get off their knees and reign their guy in. They need to back off of Senator Mark Kelly and support him and his statement which was 100% correct about not obeying illegal orders.

For fucksake they're killing citizens on the streets of Minnesota. Get your asses to the Capital and shut this shit down. NOW!

yaesu

(9,124 posts)
9. Leader must make sure no dems vote for funding, another vote that will decide the future of the party, don't fuck it up
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:32 PM
Jan 24

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
10. It only takes one Democrat -- Schumer, or MN's Klobuchar or Smith, or others who are deciding against funding DHS...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:33 PM
Jan 24
Nevada Sens. Jacky Rosen and Catherine Cortez Masto, who were two of the eight Democrats who voted against their party to end the 43-day government shutdown last year, both said Saturday that they will not support the measure funding DHS. Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia, another one of those eight Democrats, already said Friday he would not support funding DHS.
... other Democratic senators on Saturday said they would not support funding DHS, including Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Mark Kelly of Arizona, Chris Murphy of Connecticut, Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Mark Warner of Virginia, Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, Andy Kim of New Jersey and Alex Padilla of California.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homeland-security-funding-bill-senate-democrats-schumer-minneapolis-shooting/

Ten Democratic senators say they will not vote to fund DHS.

ONE U.S. Senator can effectively block a bill from coming to a vote through
-- a "filibuster" or
-- by placing a "hold" on legislation.

Under Senate rules, a single senator can initiate a filibuster (or threaten one), requiring a supermajority of 60 votes to invoke cloture, end debate, and move to a final vote.

I think they know that Americans feel enough solidarity with MN to make the sacrifice. And I believe Senate Democrats will be in solidarity with the MN senators.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,548 posts)
16. I hope you're right,
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:16 PM
Jan 24

but I'll believe it when I actually see the final vote defeat it.

There are too many Manchin/Sinema/Fetterman types who see the $$$$$$$$ instead of what's right.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
27. Nope. Just four like him: Shaheen, Hassan, King, and believe it or not, the senate whip, Durbin himself.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:01 PM
Jan 24

Shaheen 202-224-2841

Hassan 202-224-3324

King 202-224-5344

Durbin 202-224-2152

Fetterman 202-224-4254

Scrivener7

(58,883 posts)
17. I really hope he means it this time. And I hope every Senator follows suit.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:17 PM
Jan 24

I hope they let the Whip do his job.

There are some here who are insisting the bill has nothing to do with ICE and it's no big deal it passed the House.

That's idiotic.

I really hope Schumer doesn't cave again.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
22. Durbin, as the longest standing senate whip, should be all in on this, his last term in office. We'll see if he whips a
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:32 PM
Jan 24

win, or just whips cream.

PatrickforB

(15,383 posts)
24. I have little confidence in the intestinal fortitude of Schumer. Sorry to say that, but I do. I've seen him fold too
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:46 PM
Jan 24

many times in the past.

That said, I have been calling both my US Senators daily demanding they vote against funding ICE. One staff member last week told me they are getting many calls like this every day.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
31. If Schumer says he'll put a hold on the vote, I believe him. Better he loses control of the 8 than the remaining 42
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:13 PM
Jan 24

or whatever large minority number we have.
Lawrence has said over and over that it only takes one, and that US senators are notoriously uncontrollable. Those who only look at interests of their own home turf and donors should be called by any Democrat from anywhere, reasoned with, reprimanded, and primaried, imo, since senators historically have a higher calling to advise & consent and consider the nation overall.

paleotn

(21,834 posts)
28. Hate to go all Machiavellian here
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:02 PM
Jan 24

But today's murder gives Dems the political muscle to either kill the ICEhole funding or shut down the government. Schumer, fucking USE IT! Don't let that poor man die in vain. Fucking USE IT!! Strangle the Puke bastards with it!!

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
32. It's not Machiavellian, paleotn.It's Rational, Moral & Brilliant! THE general strike led by Democrats of the Senate!
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:19 PM
Jan 24

Why don't DU people see that? I thought no one would ever say it. But you're brilliant! And that's IT.

We seriously have to call our senators and say that! https://www.senate.gov/general/resources/pdf/senators_phone_list.pdf

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
35. Here. Wake him up to this on Bluesky. Culture there is beating politics every day.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:30 PM
Jan 24

from Raider

"Children screaming and crying can be heard as a possible uprising is underway at the ICE Children's Concentration Camp in Dilley, TX (1/24/26)."

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:udnac33pmf2iwcblpeai5a5p/post/3md7645iqgs2z?ref_src=embed

from ‪Magnus Lehnsherr‬

"I,'m told by detainees at Dilley that 80 pct of facility currently protesting--that would be ~1500. Guards physically blocking ppl from joining. Dozens of ICE CBP police cars racing to area. Detainees say protest triggered by news of events in Minneapolis & treatment of 5 yr old."

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Queso Delicioso

(185 posts)
62. True now, perhaps not true later.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:08 PM
Jan 25

But Hakeem would be a good first stop on a replacement tour. He's about as bad as Schumer.

Ford_Prefect

(8,544 posts)
47. Tell me when they have done it. Otherwise that's just one more headline.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:03 AM
Jan 25

I haven't got patience left for empty promises or Democrats who won't fight for us.

I fought all my life for my family , for all of my neighbors, for People of Color, for First People, for people to love whom they chose, for people with disabilities, for people to worship whomever they chose, for the health and future of the entire planet.

I have paid many a price for this and consider it justice performed in good faith.

it's well past time for All Democrats to work as hard as I have and get the justice we All deserve. DAMN WELL!

lees1975

(6,956 posts)
48. That is a great move, if they will actually do it.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:17 AM
Jan 25

Maybe they see that the Republicans and Trump have lost significant support over this, and that this is more than likely going to cost them both houses in November.

MichMan

(16,874 posts)
59. Hard to say who gets blamed
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:26 PM
Jan 25

I'm guessing that the RW narrative will be fairly predictable though.

"Democrats would rather have open borders than fund SNAP benefits"

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
63. Okay. Fair point.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 07:07 PM
Jan 25

Then one could say, " "Republicans would rather fund dead federal invasions of cities and 212 active ICE detention centers than fund SNAP benefits."

MichMan

(16,874 posts)
64. ICE would still operate in a partial government shutdown
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 10:20 AM
Jan 28
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other immigration enforcement agencies would keep operating even if broad swaths of the federal government close this weekend.

Lawmakers face a Friday deadline for a partial government shutdown, 80 days after they reopened federal agencies after the longest shutdown ever in November. Congress has approved half of its annual spending bills since then and was poised to approve the other the bills late last week in one combined measure.

But the killing of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis by immigration authorities on Saturday — just weeks after an ICE officer killed Renée Good in the same city — outraged congressional Democrats, who say they’ll block the spending bill unless it includes more oversight of ICE. Republicans so far have rebuffed that demand, setting up a likely partial shutdown that would close agencies whose funding hasn’t been enacted.

ICE largely doesn’t need the spending bill to pass, however, even though its operations are at the heart of the standoff. That’s because the massive tax and immigration policy law the GOP passed last summer at President Donald Trump’s urging included $75 billion for the enforcement agency over the next four years.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ice-would-still-operate-in-a-partial-government-shutdown/ar-AA1V9R6n?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=697a280f3eaa4b6293dba41649b4e56a&ei=10
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