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friendly_iconoclast's JournalBloomberg prefers to use his money to threaten Democratic officeholders.
Because he's 'progressive' or something like that...
And yet "(t)rying to pigeonhole a particular weapon based on trivial technical minutia"...
is the very heart of the assault weapon ban YOU touted here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2540588
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Just like terrorism watch lists were bad:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3031131#3032492
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25. People are harassed, investigated & arrested for their political beliefs.
Held anonymously without charge, trial, or communication with the outside world.
The President's press secretary says that people should watch what they say, or else - and the press is too afraid to say anything.
People are prevented from traveling freely because they are on a gov't list.
until they became good when guns entered into the discussion:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/www.fas.usda.gov/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x431371#431380
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4. The TSA's No-Fly list is entirely different than the FBI's Terrorist Watch List.
Trying to conflate the two is RW propaganda.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/nsb/tsc/tsc_faqs
Secure Flight is the U.S. Government-mandated program responsible for matching passenger information against the government watch list. Secure Flight conducts consistent watch list matching against TSDB entries for flights into, and out of, and within the U.S. As with all government programs that screen for terrorists, TSC provides the Secure Flight program support to ensure terrorist identity matches are correct.
Checking your posts for revisionism and inaccuracy takes a bit of work, but is quite illustrative
of the attitude amongst you lot here...
Practical politics takes a lot of hard work, while carping on Internet forums is easy.
Besides that, if you don't actually do anything in the real world you don't have to worry
about the prospect of finding out that your opponents are better at retail politics than you are...
Yeah, about that: "Note: ALL gun owners support the NRA" -and that's just from today at DU
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022700602Are we to believe you or our lying eyes?
Free Republic-style stereotyping should have no place at DU.
It's like chickenshit and horseshit:
They come from two very different kinds of animals, but they're both shit and they both stink.
It's very simple: If you want new gun control laws, you need the cooperation of legal gun owners.
I would suggest to those of you that have been pissing on them since Newtown-
Knock it off. You are not going to browbeat them into agreeing with you or shame them into 'seeing the light'.
Quit treating them the way Pamela Geller treats Muslims
You have learned today what indulging in cultural warfare will get you-
Nothing
So, unless you'd like gun control to go the way of alcohol prohibition, stop otherizing them.
You are not automatically smarter or better educated than they are, most of them are just as law abiding as you are.
There are about 80 million of them and they tend to vote far more often than the public at large.
So unless and until you are prepared to permanently forgo the votes of 20-25% of the voting pool,
a change of attitude on your part is in order.
And for you bitter-enders that won't let go: Please consider leaving the Democratic Party
Go form and form some sort of Gun Safety/Control Party.
There's even a role model for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_Party
Why are you surprised? Gun control advocates were *always* going to get played.
The White House, for all their fine words, knew from the start that substantial new gun control
measures would never make it through the House.
First gun control, then chained CPI. Have you realized yet you're being triangulated?
Both classic Third Way/DLC memes. I guess the President really has been listening to ex-SoS Clinton...
The next time someone advocates for "common sense" gun laws...
...ask them if their "common sense" would be the same "common sense" as Tim Huelskamps "common sense":
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/1/the-war-on-marriage-and-motherhood/
ANYONE that appeals to 'common sense' is bullshitting you...
Here's a link to the video on YouTube:
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