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If Trump is pardoned, he can later be forced to help prosecute his criminal associates.

Bear in mind-when someone is pardoned, they can no longer plead the 5A while being questioned about
what they'd been pardoned for.

(they can no longer be criminally charged, so there would be no possibility of self-incrimination)

However, he *will* still be subject to jail for defying a subpoena and/or refusing to answer questions under oath- no
pardon issued by Pence would apply to events happening after Inauguration Day, 2021.

He'll rat out his gang in a heartbeat before he'd do a day in jail.

Biden's DOJ will go to town on these treasonous assclowns, and it will be glorious to see...

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Jul 2, 2020, 01:23 PM (23 replies)

Small group of GOPers have a playdate at Idaho's statehouse, pretend to legislate

Complete with tears and delusions of grandeur, it was little more than a Busy Box for right-wing adults.

Note also that 73.7% of the ID House Republicans decided not to show up...


Self-called legislative session ends with no votes, no action

BOISE — Fifteen House Republicans gathered in the House chamber on Tuesday morning, but despite calls from far-right groups, they didn’t take any votes or attempt to conduct any legislative business.

“This is not a session of the Legislature,” Rep. Judy Boyle, R-Midvale, told the group, as they assembled in the well of the House, seated in a tight circle. “We do not have a quorum.”...

...“But in your heart of hearts you know that that’s just not where you’re at,” Nichols said. “We’re done. We’re done with the whole shebang and it feels like there’s no end in sight.”

She teared up as she talked of rioting and statues being torn down around the nation, and said she fears losing our country.

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Tue Jun 23, 2020, 05:17 PM (1 replies)

Gun control advocates here have *always* been willing to elide and defend racism...

...if it advances their cause, and occasionally they've even defended the endorsement of Republicans running against Democrats.

Michael Bloomberg got support here for his racist "stop and frisk" policies:

(small reminder of which)

Note the comments in the following threads:





Here's where a 'leading DU gun control advocate' urges support for Republicans running against two good
Democrats- and lied about the Pubbie's voting records while they were at it:


"Gabby Giffords’ Gun Control Group Endorses Two Republican Senators"

(L)et's look at how the Democratic opposition stacks up.
-Tammy Duckworth, Democrat, combat vet, lost both legs in Iraq. Pro-choice, pro-ACA, supports comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship for those in the country illegally, would admit 100,000 Syrian refugees into the United States. Rated 7% by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record.

-Katie McGinty, Democrat, has not held an elected office. Served as an environmental advisor to Vice President Al Gore and President Bill Clinton, pro-business, supports gay marriage, Affordable Care Act, she is also pro-choice. Scored 100% on CeaseFire Pennsylvania survey, Expanding state background checks to cover the private sale of long guns, Requiring background checks for ammunition sales, Requiring firearms dealers to tell the police when a customer fails a background check


Don't vote party, vote gun violence. That's why Gabby Gifford's has endorsed two Republicans for senate. The two have consistently voted against the NRA and for her that's the most important issue for the short term.

Even if it is for only one or two election cycles, if the NRA's mythological omnipotence can be defeated and shown for being a mile deep and an inch wide it is worth it.

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Tue Jun 23, 2020, 04:23 PM (2 replies)

AG Barr needs serious fashion help, and I found the perfect thing for him to wear:

John Mitchell's old Bureau of Prisons number, 24171-157


...On February 21, 1975, Mitchell, who was represented by the criminal defense attorney William G. Hundley, was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury and sentenced to two and a half to eight years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and cover-up, which he dubbed the "White House horrors." As a result of the conviction, Mitchell was disbarred from the practice of law in New York....
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:37 AM (1 replies)

MLK, Jr.'s words about white moderates still resonate today

From his "Letter From a Birmingham Jail":

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Fri May 29, 2020, 11:51 AM (10 replies)

This is rich- NOW Klobuchar wants charges brought against killer cops

Gee, I wonder what made her change her tune...


Everyone is hurting. Anyone with an ounce of humanity is outraged by George Floyd’s killing in the hands of police. The case cries out for action, charges & justice.


As a prosecutor in heavily white Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar declined to go after police involved in fatal encounters with black men

..As chief prosecutor for Minnesota’s most populous county from 1999 to 2007, Klobuchar declined to bring charges in more than two dozen cases in which people were killed in encounters with police.

At the same time, she aggressively prosecuted smaller offenses such as vandalism and routinely sought longer-than-recommended sentences, including for minors. Such prosecutions, done with the aim of curbing more serious crimes, have had mixed results and have been criticized for their disproportionate effect on poor and minority communities.

“We were already a community in distress when she became Hennepin County attorney,” said Nekima Levy Armstrong, a civil rights attorney and former president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP. “Rather than taking steps to help mitigate some of those concerns and issues, during her tenure in office, her policies exacerbated the situation.”...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu May 28, 2020, 03:30 PM (19 replies)

Andrew Cuomo gave immunity to nursing home execs after big campaign donations


As Governor Andrew Cuomo faced a spirited challenge in his bid to win New York’s 2018 Democratic primary, his political apparatus got a last-minute boost: a powerful healthcare industry group suddenly poured more than $1m into a Democratic committee backing his campaign.

Less than two years after that flood of cash from the Greater New York Hospital Association (GNYHA), Cuomo signed legislation last month quietly shielding hospital and nursing home executives from the threat of lawsuits stemming from the coronavirus outbreak. The provision, inserted into an annual budget bill by Cuomo’s aides, created one of the nation’s most explicit immunity protections for healthcare industry officials, according to legal experts...

...New York has become one of the globe’s major pandemic hotspots – and the center of the state’s outbreak has been nursing homes, where more than 5,000 New Yorkers have died, according to Associated Press data.

Those deaths have occurred as Cuomo’s critics say he has taken a hands-off approach to regulating the healthcare industry interests that helped bankroll his election campaign. In March, Cuomo’s administration issued an order that allowed nursing homes to readmit sick patients without testing them for Covid-19. Amid allegations of undercounted casualties, the governor also pushed back against pressure to have state regulators more stringently record and report death rates in nursing homes...

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed May 27, 2020, 11:30 AM (4 replies)

Q: Will the Murdochs turn against Trump if he costs them too much, or are they die-hards?

Genuinely curious to know others' takes on this..
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon May 18, 2020, 08:06 PM (5 replies)

"My family are the rule-breaking, lockdown-flouting entitled Americans you've heard about during...

...the pandemic"

The self-entitlement is astounding...


We disregarded the rules, well... because we wanted to

Andrea Askowitz
Florida 3 days ago

...Vicky picked us up from the airport and the four of us put masks on and drove to my mom’s beach house in Key Largo, an hour south of our house in Miami. We knew Key Largo wasn’t letting tourists in. We weren’t tourists, exactly. We had a note from my mom, plus two utility bills, and passed through the checkpoint, no problem. The kids and I would quarantine for 14 days. To stay safe, Vicky drove back to Miami.

Four days later, Vicky headed from Miami to Key Largo because the kids and I had coronavirus tests scheduled and we only had one car. Maybe we could have taken an Uber to get the test. The truth was, we wanted to be together.

Then Vicky called, crying. She’d been stopped at the checkpoint. I had only heard her cry like that one other time during our 12-year marriage — when her mom died. She said, “The police are not letting me through.”

An hour later Vicky called again, still crying. “I told them I left the kids alone in the house. They’re escorting me home. You have to hide.”...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon May 18, 2020, 08:00 PM (1 replies)

Scientists forsee new pandemic, say it will be widespread by early next year

This new malady already has a name, and an easily identifiable symptom-fortunately, DUers are 99.99% immune
to this new menace:

Trumpheimer's Disease- it causes amnesia about the patient's previous support of Donald Trump...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sat May 9, 2020, 06:14 PM (7 replies)
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