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NYC_SKP's JournalFuck, I'll kick this one... nt
3 faces: Joe: "You're Killing Me!"; Barack: "I love my job"; Boehner: "I need a drink"
I agree with you, and I'm not particularly proud of our culture or our behavior at home or abroad.
With a few exceptions, our country more than most accepts crass, loud, vulgar, and often violent behavior embarrassingly easily.
There are two DU groups that discuss guns exclusively:
The Gun Control & RKBA group here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172
and the Gun Control Reform Activism group here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262
Both are reasonably good places to post your perspective for discussion, though I would say that there's more freedom to express individual points of view in the first group, Gun Control & RKBA.
Welcome to DU!
Reading the reviews led me to some articles of interest...
One worth bookmarking is from the Nation, The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights
I think we should have this discussion honestly. If the latter is your position, say it. If you want to eliminate the Second Amendment right, mount a forthright political campaign to do so. Do not pussy-foot around with I am not against the Second Amendment. I do not want to take your hunting rifles and your shotguns, and your antique muskets, when you really dont like the Second Amendment at all, would love to see it repealed, and wouldnt mind if everybody was forced to turn in every weapon that they owned.
Cause, guess what: Youre not fooling anybody. When your discourse reeks with intellectual and moral disdain for gun-rights and gun-rights advocates, when it never endorses, and indeed at best studiously avoids, the issue of gun ownership as a fundamental political right, it shows. And it certainly shows when you say outright that youd love to confiscate all guns, no matter how you try to waffle on that later. Despite whats implied in the ever-present disdain, gun rights advocates are not, ipso facto, stupid (or violent, or crazy), and certainly not too stupid to see where youre heading. So lets stop gaslighting gun-rights supporters as paranoid when they state what they see:
Dianne Feinstein, who had a concealed carry permit when she felt a sense of helplessness, saying: If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . Mr. and Mrs. American turn em all in. I would have done it.
Not to mention Andrew Cuomos more recent: Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option.
Of course, you could counter that nobody should believe a word of anything these politicians say, anyway. How persuasive is this performance by pry-it-from-my-cold-dead-hands Joe?
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The entire piece is here: http://www.thepolemicist.net/2013/01/the-rifle-on-wall-left-argument-for-gun.html
"I’m certainly against one of Senator Obama’s ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax"
"CLINTON: I dont want to raise taxes on anybody.
Im certainly against one of Senator Obamas ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax, because that would impose additional taxes on people who are educators, police officers, firefighters and the like."
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Social_Security.htm
Stolen from JDPriestly's insightful OP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024379279
Yes, all those teachers making over $102,000.
Out of touch, much, Senator???
Life is short, motherfuckers. Enjoy it. Leave a Mark. Be kind. Make people smile.
That's all there is too it.
Thanks to Kali, we have a little background on this man: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018553145
Thanks, Kali.
I love you, Middlefingermom.
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