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You have got to be kidding.

Or not, given my theory.

Retail: One-person-at-a-time voter fraud. Hardly worth the trouble.

Wholesale: Steal via computer, much more than one vote at a time possible, and how many will understand how it could be done, or care?

If it can't be documented and understood by the average voter, it needs to go.

OK, I just pegged you. As a... Hmmm....

One is retail, the other wholesale.

Voter fraud, which, as you say, pretty much doesn't exist. Not enough profit for the trouble.


That's another kettle of fish.

I don't completely agree.

Hillary thinks that being in this for herself means she is in this for us, I believe.

Thing is, I don't agree.

She is in it for the corporations, IMHO, whether she believes that or not. As are others of her type. Whether they believe it or not.

Paper ballots.

Hand counted by real people.

Results posted on the door before the ballots leave the precinct.

All this monitored by webcams. Now THERE'S a proper use of computers.

"there is no fraud with voting machines. It's an internet myth."

Words fail me. Copying this so I can journal it.

I am a computer professional.

That means I know they are programmed by humans.


Trust computers (programmed by people), do you?

One word. Volkswagen.

I didn't know you before this interchange, so I can't say you lost credibility with me that you never had a chance to have, but I will say that I feel you can't have done much research on election fraud.

Especially via electronic voting machines. IMHO, HAVA was a planned scam. Poor ol' Rush Holt, dupe.

Well, I hope this is a "Dewey Defeats Truman" year.

I am in contact with a lot of young people. They are almost all for Bernie, enthusiastically. If the campaign recognizes that and can harness it, done deal.

Except, of course, for the election-stealing mechanism put in place by good ol' HAVA.....

I am in tears.

What I've dealt with as an atheist (out as a child, closeted as an adult) is nothing next to this.

Why people can be so horrible because you don't believe in the proper imaginary friend has always been beyond me.

In a historical sense,

there's no way to tell which is more "important" other than knowledge of the future. (Thinking of some conservative arguments I have seen.)

In a rational sense, it's the woman's choice. Period. Up to the completion of the birth. Period.

Yes, I'm radical on this. Who in their right mind would choose to become pregnant if there was a large chance it would put them under the control of others? I, for one, wouldn't.

Might I disapprove of others' choices? Oh yeah. Might I not have all the facts? Oh yeah. Might others' choices in this matter be considered wrong by many? Yep. Might I try to persuade people? Possibly.

Still, my body is my body. And at this point in my life I'm happy for many reasons never to have been pregnant.

Want a next generation? I see it as a choice between people willing to become pregnant and Handmaid's Tale.


And I don't cuss.

How about government (we the people) controls corporations, not vice versa.
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