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March 3, 2022

A lot of people only seem willing to fight to the last Ukrainian

But object to the US and NATO being directly involved militarily.

Sad but true.

The US and NATO should intervene militarily to save Ukrainian lives and Ukrainian democracy now, before it's too late.

And, please, don't try the "but Ukraine is not in NATO" excuse.

NATO has intervened militarily to save innocent lives in non-NATO countries like Libya and Serbia. In fact, in the case of Serbia, NATO served to change the map of Europe by facilitating the Kosovo province breaking away from Serbia and recognizing it as an independent country.

Does NATO only stand up to little countries?

Are we that afraid of Russia?

March 3, 2022

China asked Russia to delay invasion of Ukraine until after Olympics, Western intel shows

Source: CNN

A Western intelligence report indicated that Chinese officials, in early February, requested that senior Russian officials wait until after the Beijing Olympics had finished before beginning an invasion into Ukraine, US officials said Wednesday.

US officials broadly view the report as credible, but its particulars are open to interpretation, according to one source familiar with the intelligence. Although the request was made around the time that President Vladimir Putin visited Beijing for the opening ceremony of the Olympics — where he met with Chinese President Xi Jinping — it is not clear from the report whether Putin addressed the matter with Xi directly, the source said.

Western intelligence officials warily watching Putin’s buildup on the Ukrainian border at the time had anticipated that Putin might delay any military action until after the Olympics to avoid angering China.

After Putin and Xi’s meeting, Moscow and Beijing issued a joint statement declaring that their partnership had “no limits” and condemning NATO expansion — a key pillar of Putin’s justification for attacking Ukraine.
That statement has elevated Western concerns about a burgeoning alliance between China and Russia.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-02-22/index.html



What drove these two enemies into each other's arms?



China's population and economy with Russia's nuclear arsenal and natural resources are a formidable combination.

March 2, 2022

Russia seeks 'slow annihilation' of Ukraine's military

US officials warn Russia will increasingly hit civilian targets and seek 'slow annihilation' of Ukraine's military

Russia's strategy in its war on Ukraine is shifting toward a "slow annihilation" of the Ukrainian military, US and other Western officials tell CNN, warning that Russia could focus on a bloody and deadly bombardment of cities and civilian targets as the conflict becomes a grinding war of attrition.

Ukrainian forces have so far been able to stave off Russia's initial push, maintaining control of Kyiv and other major cities. But they remain massively outgunned and outmanned. And Russia is now bringing in heavier, more destructive weaponry and increasingly striking civilian infrastructure, after an initial focus on military targets, the officials said.
The shift in strategy likely reflects a recognition by Russian President Vladimir Putin that his initial plan to quickly topple Kyiv has failed, said one senior Western intelligence official -- in part because the Ukrainians have put up a stiffer than anticipated fight and in part because logistics and supply missteps have slowed the Russian advance.
But Western officials now expect that Russia will ramp up heavy weapons bombardment of Ukraine's cities and potentially march in "tens of thousands" of troops, one US official said. Eventually, officials caution, Ukraine's military will likely run short of supplies needed to keep up the fight.
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'Cruel military math'

Ukraine's will to fight "is extending this," said the senior Western intelligence official. "But the cruel military math of this will eventually come to bear, absent some intervention, absent some fundamental change in the dynamic."
For Ukraine, whose military forces and civilian population have shown no signs of capitulating, the war appears poised to become a grim struggle for survival over a protracted, uncertain future.
The numbers are already bleak: Russia has lost roughly 3% to 5% of its tanks, aircraft, artillery and other military assets inside Ukraine — compared with Ukrainian losses of roughly 10% of its capabilities, according to two US officials familiar with the latest intelligence.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/politics/us-russia-ukraine-civilians-warning/index.html


We, the US and NATO that is, must either intervene directly immediately with our superior military might to back Ukrainian forces or de-escalate tensions somehow.

Anything else seems to be using the brave Ukrainian resistance as cannon fodder in a losing cause in a proxy war with Russia.


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