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It sounds like the majority needs to almost outfillibuster the gop

Will they basically bring it up as frequently as possible debating indefinitely until the minority gets tired and finally agrees to end it?

Joe Manchin said there is no precedent to end a fillibuster with 51 votes.

He also said that you cannot break a rule to make a rule -also suggesting there is no precedent in the Senate to change rules with only 51 votes. However, every rule change in recent history was done with 51 votes. Right?

Should we require 3/5 of senators present v 3/5 duly elected senators to maintain the fillibuster?

If Manchin's position is "we didn't do it like this before, how would he feel about making it the way it was before?"

That year, the Senate adopted a rule to allow a two-thirds majority to end a filibuster, a procedure known as "cloture." In 1975 the Senate reduced the number of votes required for cloture from two-thirds of senators voting to three-fifths of all senators duly chosen and sworn, or 60 of the 100-member Senate.

Changing the rules from 60 senators to 2/3rds present would allow the Democrats to wait out Republicans until they make up 2/3rds of the Senators present. Or simply change the rules to require 3/5ths present instead of duly elected. Could this work?

The difference between the old and the new is, of course, that the new rules do not require the opposition to be present, whereas the old rules would. The tweak to "senators present" vs duly elected might be minor enough to satisfy sinema and manchin. It also might be major enough for us to eventually pass voting rights.


Noticing it feels like literally everybody and their mom's are getting covid right now.

Please make sure you and yours are getting your boosters.

Meet Ron Johnson's likely US Senate opponent in Wisconsin

Lt. Governor Mandela Barnes.


He isn't the only one running, but is so far the most likely to win the Democratic nomination -and in my opinion, beat Johnson.

California's COVID stats proves one thing: Vaccines are working

75.3% of Californians have received at least one dose of the vaccine. In the last two weeks the rate of covid infections has went up 446% and covid deaths have decreased by 38%.

Vaccines don't completely prevent transmissions, but they do radically decrease serious hospitalizations and deaths.

Funny thing is: Even some of the most anti vax, ardent trump supporting people in my life have been convinced to get vaccinated after some discussion. It isn't a guarantee that it'll happen but personally I have seen some success in that area.


Should the US Senate remain as it is?

Just curious. Until 1913, all senators were not elected, but appointed by their state legislatures. Regardless of population, each state is given 2 senators which ends up overstating the representation of less populous states, and understating the representation of more populous sates. This is in contrast with the house of representatives, where decennial reapporitionment and redistricting nearly guarantees a slightly more proportional representation of their constituents. My question is: Should the US Senate be changed, and how?



No, Beto did not kill his chances with "we will take your AR15s"

Running on gun control in Texas, according to most polls, appears to be a politically savvy thing to do. This is the most recent poll I can find, which shows that a vast majority of Texans prefer more strict gun laws.


On edit: okay maybe RUNNING on gun control isn't the most savvy thing to do based on the last quinnipiac. But as some folks have pointed out, that might not be the most consequential issue on peoples' minds at this point. And a 5-10 point deficit on banning assault rifles, in my opinion, is not a political killer.


Do you think Manchin will agree to a 1.7T BBB bill?

...in some form?

Hope he succeeds.

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