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Demsrule86

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85. He is a Congressman and now House leader...they think that is 'good'. I agree with you.

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:26 PM

Dec 2017

I hear old Ryan may be in trouble though...folks usually hate the majority leader. Also some of the stuff he wants to do is not popular with his constituents.

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Just had a right-winger, a banker, in my office this morning [View all] Mr. Ected Dec 2017 OP

In my view, Paul Ryan will not be re-elected if the reality of that tax bill Sophia4 Dec 2017 #1

I think he is going for broke...try to push his poison through and then retire. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #4

Or he expects to be president. C Moon Dec 2017 #31

His plan is very clear and obvious SCantiGOP Dec 2017 #34

I suspect Ryan is a genuine extremist libertarian. Hortensis Dec 2017 #51

I agree. He is a zealot. Chemisse Dec 2017 #68

What is worse about Ryan True Blue American Dec 2017 #71

My Social Security check Scarsdale Dec 2017 #74

$11 ? Tracer Dec 2017 #83

Not honestly. But zealots are motivated by their ideals. Hortensis Dec 2017 #77

No, he is a prick who is greedy and will at the drop of a hat use government programs Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #87

There needs to be a way where scum like him suffer financially and LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #63

That would be great but I don't see it happening. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #80

Ryan represents a very very white part of very very white WI. The people he represents AJT Dec 2017 #5

Got tonsO people here in little ol Dakota,MN that think the same way..... a kennedy Dec 2017 #11

What CD are you in? geardaddy Dec 2017 #18

First CD, Tim Walz, Amy and used to be Al Franken a kennedy Dec 2017 #26

Oh, I thought you might be in Lewis' CD. geardaddy Dec 2017 #32

Oooops, sorry here: a kennedy Dec 2017 #40

Thanks. Jeremy Miller looks like a dick. geardaddy Dec 2017 #41

Ha ha ha, hes ok for a repub, but ya sure looks like one....... a kennedy Dec 2017 #45

It's always someone else Plucketeer Dec 2017 #29

I lived in Janesville for a couple of years...and that is not true. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #42

Ryan might be a hometown boy but he didn't do good. HelenWheels Dec 2017 #84

He is a Congressman and now House leader...they think that is 'good'. I agree with you. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #85

Yet another well informed conservative voter. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #2

Not surprised...just wait until all of the other 'bricks' drop and people SWBTATTReg Dec 2017 #3

yeah, wait until interest rates rise..... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #25

The many many millions of GOP voters in blue states who will pay WAY more now in taxes Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #6

I think most people will look at it that they can borrow say $50K and the value of the loss in Hoyt Dec 2017 #7

Interesting Point TheOther95Percent Dec 2017 #8

Except the value of their homes will drop mainer Dec 2017 #12

Not much. Most homes have been increasing at a pretty good clip. Lower priced homes will still Hoyt Dec 2017 #15

Interesting analysis by Newsweek journalist mainer Dec 2017 #17

The 2 or 3% values of higher priced homes might drop, won't make that much difference. Hoyt Dec 2017 #23

That's not what history teaches. When prices of higher end homes go down, there's a downward pnwmom Dec 2017 #27

Probably because there is a general economic downturn at the same time. Hoyt Dec 2017 #30

"Probably." OR people might realize that the original plan was to get rid of ALL mortgage deductions pnwmom Dec 2017 #38

I'm inclined to agree that home prices won't drop that much. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #62

2nd mortgages This has never only affected higher price home markets uponit7771 Dec 2017 #82

It's worth reading the rest of his Twitter analysis mainer Dec 2017 #44

OMG -- That sounds like a bonafide depression in the making. RandomAccess Dec 2017 #57

I dont remember housing prices tanking when the million dollar threshold was set in 1986. Hoyt Dec 2017 #64

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #90

Standing on line to prepay my school taxes, I got into a discussion with another homeowner. dhol82 Dec 2017 #43

+1, it doesn't take much to affect house prices uponit7771 Dec 2017 #59

I usually agree with you on most things, but you need a reality check man CreekDog Dec 2017 #72

No sense letting this ad campaign go to waste gratuitous Dec 2017 #9

What many fail to realize is that Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #10

I know...DEMS just dont know how to set the narrative. a kennedy Dec 2017 #14

Dems don't get heard in Rural Georgia n2doc Dec 2017 #16

I live in Mobile AL. I live your pain. nm Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #53

As an example - EVERY conservative in the country believes the 2008 crash was caused by ... Cosmocat Dec 2017 #49

And they've never heard of residentcynic Dec 2017 #89

Yes. That banker seems to have his head up his butt. Blue_true Dec 2017 #65

Oops! hatrack Dec 2017 #13

Ahem, you forgot to mention watoos Dec 2017 #19

they trusted handmade34 Dec 2017 #20

Many won't realize until tax time in 2019, after 2018 elections wishstar Dec 2017 #21

I wonder when they'll realize that their good buddy gopers shoved Ilsa Dec 2017 #22

Obama will get the blame. kairos12 Dec 2017 #24

Now that's a non-debatable fact. Hoyt Dec 2017 #28

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #60

Nothing So Delicious! DDySiegs Dec 2017 #33

How is anyone in that business unaware of those changes in the tax law? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #35

I would surmise that Rush hasn't elaborated on this particular point Mr. Ected Dec 2017 #37

THIS Cosmocat Dec 2017 #50

I think most of us would be more or less ok if the shitty tax bill were the end of it, but it's not. lark Dec 2017 #36

'Conversing with the Board' indeed, elleng Dec 2017 #39

Oooooooohhhh not fooled Dec 2017 #55

I had not heard that, either. Only about the limit on the property tax deduction. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #46

I thought that it was $10,000 limit for everything. Blue_true Dec 2017 #66

I just checked. You are correctomundo. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #69

Eh? OnyxSharpie Dec 2017 #73

Oh, pardon me. I just moved... Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #75

This makes me feel good. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #47

No fun to get suckered by republican Comrade Casio* Achilleaze Dec 2017 #48

we are trickled down on Motley13 Dec 2017 #52

This is what happens when they get information outside of Fox News. n/t Yavin4 Dec 2017 #54

Uh oh, it looks like it's time to start demonizing black athletes and women seeking abortions again. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #56

I live in GA and work with the same idiots who voted for Trump and the GOP mdbl Dec 2017 #58

Tell everyone so that the bad news rushes down in a torrent in time for 2018 elections. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #61

I know right? A guilty pleasure lately is ecstatic Dec 2017 #67

A lot of middle class folks who itemize deductions may be in for an unpleasant surprise when 2018 still_one Dec 2017 #70

I think losing the personal exemption will be the thing people DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #78

Exactly, it is above the line. The other problem is that these supposed tax cuts expire in 8 years still_one Dec 2017 #81

All of these screw jobs need to be talked-up in 2018 so that every man, woman and child democratisphere Dec 2017 #76

GOPers should read legislation get the red out Dec 2017 #79

i was at a business networking function where a cpa gave a presentation with the truth per tax bill dembotoz Dec 2017 #86

And thats deduction that helps middle class homeowners. 7962 Dec 2017 #88