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lib2DaBone

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72. No, FBI not sophisticated enough.

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 09:54 PM

Jul 2012

Compare to Harris and Klebold, the Columbine shooters. Look at Timothy McVeigh, Lee Harvey Oswald... the VIrginia Tech Shooter, The Korean College Shooter.... all Manchurian Candidates.

I could go into definitive examples here, but it would be called "tin foil" theory.. even though it is fact.

So move on folks.. nothing to see here... go back to sleep.. everything is fine.

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold caught on the high school's security cameras in the cafeteria shortly before committing suicide. Both students worked for an older man in a pizza parlor who was a retired CIA operative who took them under his wing and "counseled" them.

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$26,000/year in spending money...for Holmes??? [View all] nanabugg Jul 2012 OP

Wha? Who did what now? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #1

I just heard the same thing on ABC news tonight onecent Jul 2012 #2

That's less than he would have been making working for most companies pnwmom Jul 2012 #51

He couldn't find a job in a company based on his undergraduate degree. LisaL Jul 2012 #52

Lots of BS's with science and engineering degrees get good jobs, pnwmom Jul 2012 #55

It was reported he couldn't, and had to work at McDonalds before graduate school. LisaL Jul 2012 #59

And how long did he try? Anyway, the implication of the OP that he was overpaid pnwmom Jul 2012 #63

I don't know how long he tried. LisaL Jul 2012 #67

Where did he get it? lunatica Jul 2012 #3

That's what it was -- a training stipend obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #13

He got a grant from the National Institute of Health. Recovered Repug Jul 2012 #4

Please, you don't really want me to explain the NIH grant system...you really don't want to know. nanabugg Jul 2012 #8

I'm not really sure what you mean. Recovered Repug Jul 2012 #10

He was only one of five people in the country to get this. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #22

Proves that we lost a great mind with whatever it was that went wrong with him. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #34

Oh, I agree! Fawke Em Jul 2012 #40

Yep. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #41

That is not accurate. LisaL Jul 2012 #42

What, now we're going to go after scientific grants? girl gone mad Jul 2012 #5

+1 obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #15

Looks like. Keep expecting to see dolts claiming grad fellowships = the 1%. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #29

He didn't secure it personally. The neuroscience program secured it. LisaL Jul 2012 #46

A lot more than I receive from Social Security. lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #6

For most graduate students, attending school is a full-time job. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #33

Same here. I only receive $14,000 a year RebelOne Jul 2012 #45

if you were a neuroscience genius datasuspect Jul 2012 #87

did that "spending" include paying his rent, tuition, books, food, etc? HiPointDem Jul 2012 #7

It did for my friend who had an NIH grant obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #16

+1. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #75

+2 lunasun Jul 2012 #84

I'd be curious what that covered 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #9

It's a salary obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #12

I had a salary/stipend in grad school 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #14

Right, all of that obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #17

It depends on the grant program... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #37

I suppose it's different for each program 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #71

In my experience JVS Jul 2012 #61

He had an educational/training grant -- nothing unusual obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #11

I'm beginning to think... gregoire Jul 2012 #18

$26,000 whilst paying for school is "disposable income?" Fawke Em Jul 2012 #23

Graduate stipends are not "disposable income." (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #26

This, by no means is a large amount of disposble income. LisaL Jul 2012 #43

Because the propensity to commit violent crime and healthy incomes go hand in hand BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #47

Seriously uppityperson Jul 2012 #56

Don't typical grad stipends cover luxuries like housing Retrograde Jul 2012 #57

Just like a salary, he could spend it on living expenses. LisaL Jul 2012 #62

Yeah, luxuries like those. nt pnwmom Jul 2012 #77

You mean, pay equivalent to a kindergarten teacher's? It will be news to many pnwmom Jul 2012 #76

if you're suggesting that grad students don't "work hard every day..." mike_c Jul 2012 #19

And it's typically a fraction of what that student would be paid if they dropped out and gkhouston Jul 2012 #30

And you need to have the ability to complete the work..................... lunasun Jul 2012 #85

I was wondering how he afforded all that expensive Ammo and guns? lib2DaBone Jul 2012 #20

If I wanted to make that kind of purchase I could probably burn off a few credit cards Posteritatis Jul 2012 #25

"I just assumed his CIA handlers were feeding him...." zappaman Jul 2012 #27

No kidding. Recovered Repug Jul 2012 #35

You have to remember something Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #39

First I've heard CIA mentioned. gregoire Jul 2012 #49

No, FBI not sophisticated enough. lib2DaBone Jul 2012 #72

zOMG a grad student being paid money to live on while studying JVS Jul 2012 #21

Holy crap! A doctoral student in a science program got funding! Posteritatis Jul 2012 #24

It's an assault scholarship!!1!OMG pipoman Jul 2012 #28

No doubt a lot of that money went to pay his tuition. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #31

I am not sure he had to pay tuition. LisaL Jul 2012 #44

$26,000 is significantly less than they would get in an ordinary job pnwmom Jul 2012 #54

I bet he was getting less working at McDonalds. LisaL Jul 2012 #60

So??? One of the reasons people go to college is to make more money pnwmom Jul 2012 #65

It's below the median wage muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #32

I worked before grad school. gkhouston Jul 2012 #38

Your experience is typical of grad students I've known.n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #78

My student loans (in the 1990s) involved tuition, books, and money for living expenses. Lex Jul 2012 #36

That's what the science grad stipends pay, they are competitive to get. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #48

This guy got alot of help and breaks and what does he do? Fucks his life up and kills many southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #50

I bet it's going to turn out paranoid schizophrenia is what fucked up his life. pnwmom Jul 2012 #53

And I get it's not going to turn out paranoid schizophrenia. LisaL Jul 2012 #58

Me too obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #73

That's a very good bet. Care Acutely Jul 2012 #64

Welcome to DU, Care Acutely. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #74

I wouldn't be surprised that he isn't. You are right that it is a horrible disease. This southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #86

The stipend is to pay for his work as a teaching and/or research assistant. pnwmom Jul 2012 #66

Actually, it can be harder to get grants if you *don't* have student labor as part of the grant. gkhouston Jul 2012 #68

To be fair, 99.99999% of grad students with stipends don't shoot up movie theaters. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2012 #69

That's for sure. LisaL Jul 2012 #70

Details on the money that supported Holmes ginger31 Jul 2012 #79

The companies he bought this stuff from knew more than anyone else, probably. pnwmom Jul 2012 #80

He probably had just set the traps obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #81

That's simple. He got a graduate study grant. Posteritatis Jul 2012 #82

His parents were hundreds of miles away arcane1 Jul 2012 #83