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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
68. Despite oodles of readily-available weaponry...
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 01:43 AM
Jul 2012

...millions of 11+ capacity magazines, and billions of rounds of the best, deadliest ammunition in the history of mankind, our homicide rate is half of what it was when Clinton announced his candidacy.


Despite the fact that there are literally tens of millions of people that can, within minutes, walk down to their nearest crowded commercial or religious building with whatever they have in their closet commit a mass murder... it's a rare and shocking event when it occurs.


Despite the fact that there are a hundred and fifty million people that can, with a credit card and no more than a 14-day wait, purchase a gun with which to commit mass murder... it's a rare and shocking event when it occurs.


Despite the fact that there are two hundred twenty million people that can, with some ready cash and a copy of the classifieds, buy a used gun on a whim and commit mass murder, it's a rare and shocking event when it occurs.



If people don't go into muscle-paralyzing spasms of fear at the shear amount of potential slaughter from driving with other cars on the interstate, then why should people be the same way about the hundreds of millions of guns in private hands in America?

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REGULATE GUNS AND AMMO! DontTreadOnMe Jul 2012 #1
Nahhhh... that's too wishey-washy... -..__... Jul 2012 #25
I'm not afraid of them. I am heartily sick of them. Warpy Jul 2012 #2
"They are no longer the gun owner's organization"... tex-wyo-dem Jul 2012 #47
He makes a good point that highlights why I'm not afraid of al-Qaeda arcane1 Jul 2012 #3
Too bad his point is incorrect. Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #11
Too bad Harvard found out nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #15
you took my words from my keyboard proud patriot Jul 2012 #21
Were ANY of these sales of fully automatic weapons? NT Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #38
Keep distracting with the aesthetics and rof. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #42
It's a pretty important distinction, actually. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #53
Semi-auto IS single shot. Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #98
Almost correct... gas operated nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #100
oh noes...not the ignore list....aauuurrrrggghhhh Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #102
Not legally. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #52
I appreciate your vast knowledge but it doesnt help the problem. The NRA and rhett o rick Jul 2012 #93
maybe if you stop trying to 'control them'. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #94
Yeah you are right. Let the crazies have their way. Fuck the NRA. nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #95
It's illegal to buy fully automatic assault rifles at a gun show without a background check, Kaleva Jul 2012 #92
Semi-autos is what most people -- who aren't steeped in all things guns -- mean. Hoyt Jul 2012 #59
Any gun is lethal. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #60
They also represent 90% of guns bought to use shooting/hunting people. Hoyt Jul 2012 #63
Not true on several points. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #82
Criminals get guns that were first acquired legally. Impeding production and demand is required. Hoyt Jul 2012 #86
I agree that tighter regulations on private sales and transfers HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #87
We'd be a lot better off with criminals using something besides guns. And, folks walking around Hoyt Jul 2012 #88
Why let criminals walk around at all? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #89
Put them in jail if that is only way. But, you aren't judge, jury, Jesus and executioner. Hoyt Jul 2012 #91
Are you kidding?!? Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #97
90% is my favorite made up statistic. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #96
When the NRA speaks.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #4
Dogs are noble beasts IDemo Jul 2012 #16
A dog listens to its master's voice.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #29
Muslim Americans are disappeared for 1st amendment infringement. xchrom Jul 2012 #5
FUCK THE NRA. madinmaryland Jul 2012 #6
+1111111 proud patriot Jul 2012 #23
+1000000 nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #83
And with good reason. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #7
You Make A Great Point... We Are Owned... By The Banks And The NRA... Among Others... WillyT Jul 2012 #9
Damn Willy... 99Forever Jul 2012 #34
It Worked A Generation Ago... Now... Not So Much... WillyT Jul 2012 #39
While the NRA is a strong DC lobbying force, HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #12
And Big Oil's. And Wall Street's. And the MIC's. IDemo Jul 2012 #13
40% of Democrats own guns, which is why the politics are impossible. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #28
There is zero inclination by the Democratic Party to rock the boat IDemo Jul 2012 #33
I own guns nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #45
Yeah, try to buy a full auto at a gunshow. Edweird Jul 2012 #8
They Sell Kits Ya Know... WillyT Jul 2012 #10
Very unlikely. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #22
there's a documentary on current you should watch it proud patriot Jul 2012 #26
Link? Tejas Jul 2012 #61
Here: Edweird Jul 2012 #31
Such conversion kits are highly regulated Kaleva Jul 2012 #72
What's funny about that is that, while in reality you don't have a 'full auto', in the eyes of Edweird Jul 2012 #27
Kits are regulated as machine guns themselves NickB79 Jul 2012 #36
A friend told me about one of his co-workers who made conversion parts for AK's off the clock at a Erose999 Jul 2012 #50
I hope somebody told the cops about this pearl clutching episode. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #55
Its not the difficulty. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #57
Sten submachine guns can be built from scratch in a small machine shop. Kaleva Jul 2012 #69
And DevonRex Jul 2012 #90
Yes, BATFE agents sell 'kits' under the counter. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #54
ATF hates competition. Tejas Jul 2012 #62
Afraid of the NRA? NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #14
I believe the NRA hurts the second amendment proud patriot Jul 2012 #17
+1 (nt) NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #19
... WillyT Jul 2012 #24
I took my constitution out and re read the 2 amendment today proud patriot Jul 2012 #30
I Will Make Every Effort To Be There... WillyT Jul 2012 #35
been too long my friend proud patriot Jul 2012 #58
you are correct. turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #66
I agree with what another poster said: Fuck the NRA. Alduin Jul 2012 #18
the NRA made fear and cowardice fashionable Skittles Jul 2012 #20
I'm not afraid of Wayne "Blood Lust" La Pierre or the NRA. Your assessment is correct. Lint Head Jul 2012 #32
+1 ellisonz Jul 2012 #56
Thankyou for posting this. k&r n/t Whisp Jul 2012 #37
I like to watch the movie Runaway Jury once in a while Whisp Jul 2012 #40
Why are you saying that Democratic Underground is afraid of the NRA? blue neen Jul 2012 #41
Fuck the NRA and all that support it!!! Homer12 Jul 2012 #43
+ infinity. NRA = Now Retailing Assassination. Fuck them and all their members. May they rot in hell Erose999 Jul 2012 #51
So, fuck Harry Reid? Tejas Jul 2012 #65
Perhaps you are right, DU is afraid of the NRA. You can't A Simple Game Jul 2012 #44
Note to NRA: MrMickeysMom Jul 2012 #46
Personally I don't see any fear. 4bucksagallon Jul 2012 #48
The NRA is a GOP fear-mongering group masquerading as a gun rights organization. Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #49
Posted the last paragraph on my fb page mountain grammy Jul 2012 #64
Most Americans consider the NRA an example of Washington's biggest problem Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #67
Despite oodles of readily-available weaponry... krispos42 Jul 2012 #68
Excellent post. cliffordu Jul 2012 #71
*shrug* It's the potential that drives them nuts. krispos42 Jul 2012 #73
And most people walk away from car accidents no matter how violent. cliffordu Jul 2012 #81
Bike accidents would seem to be a very binary incident krispos42 Jul 2012 #104
Anything over about 15mph and yep cliffordu Jul 2012 #105
Honestly... Serve The Servants Jul 2012 #74
About your statistical factoid about the homicide rate... Pholus Jul 2012 #77
I've never said the reason for the decline was more guns. krispos42 Jul 2012 #79
I misread your initial assertion then. However... Pholus Jul 2012 #84
Ah, intelligent dialogue. krispos42 Jul 2012 #103
Excellent post -- start to end. Hoyt Jul 2012 #80
BTW: Does anyone else find it funny how the NRA is considered "powerful" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #70
All of the right wing cabal is terrorizing all of the US Doctor_J Jul 2012 #75
Guns and Ammo in the hands of citizens is the true tragedy. ileus Jul 2012 #76
Well, something like half of U.S. gun owners are Dems and independents... benEzra Jul 2012 #78
Really? Remmah2 Jul 2012 #85
Which Author ??? WillyT Jul 2012 #99
Not really... sendero Jul 2012 #101
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