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LovingA2andMI

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32. Well According To Some Democrats....
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jan 2018
Senate Democrats Get Little as Shutdown Fight Ends With a Punt

Senate Democrats “caved. They blinked. That’s what they do," Democratic Representative Luis Gutierrez of Illinois said in an interview. "It’s unfortunate."

Democratic Representative Louise Slaughter of New York said she was baffled as to why Schumer didn’t say the government shutdown was McConnell’s fault since he’s responsible for getting the votes. “I hear our numbers are dropping like a rock because, supposedly, we closed the government down,” she said.

We’re taking a great hit,” said Slaughter. “Totally unjustified. And our people just seem to take it flat-footed.”

Democrats also got nothing from the House. Speaker Paul Ryan has promised Republican lawmakers that they won’t be bound by any arrangement reached in the Senate on immigration, House Freedom Caucus Chair Mark Meadows and Representative Doug Collins of Georgia said on Sunday.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-22/senate-democrats-get-little-as-shutdown-fight-ends-with-a-punt?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics




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Name one thing WE gained ollie10 Jan 2018 #1
9 million poor children getting their health insurance back. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #4
Weren't they offering that before though? Pelosi Luciferous Jan 2018 #6
6 years gets us to early 2024. When there would be (hopefully) a Dem congress and President. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #9
But it's not any different than what they were offered on Friday. The Democrats caved- again. Luciferous Jan 2018 #49
Yes it is. On Friday, we didn't have McConnell on the record... giving us a hammer for February 8. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #51
McConnell won't keep his word. Look what he did to Flake and Collins. And even if Luciferous Jan 2018 #53
Whether he does or doesn't is not the point scheming daemons Jan 2018 #55
Doesn't matter EffieBlack Jan 2018 #70
Yes. They decided not to die on that sword: so it wasn't worth much lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #60
Thank You! EffieBlack Jan 2018 #69
They Were.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2018 #33
That's what I thought. This just makes us look weak. Luciferous Jan 2018 #50
But now it's off the table and can't be used EffieBlack Jan 2018 #68
Oh really? wasn't that part of the deal we filibustered anyway? ollie10 Jan 2018 #67
The government being reopened is a good thing for everybody. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #2
the basic question is was there any chance of the GOP giving in on DACA to the degree we wanted? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #3
That's absolutely correct customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #41
Trump team is sending out fundraising mail saying Dems caved. OliverQ Jan 2018 #5
Every take in your post is wrong. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #7
I don't think this will hurt enthusiasm and turnout. murielm99 Jan 2018 #17
I also just found out Repubs snuck in more tax cuts into this bill. OliverQ Jan 2018 #21
And we should give a crap leftynyc Jan 2018 #27
.. Cha Jan 2018 #46
Well, if Trump team says it, it must be true ... EffieBlack Jan 2018 #71
That wasn't my point. Clearly I know they're liars. OliverQ Jan 2018 #75
As soon as I saw that an agreement had been reached treestar Jan 2018 #8
+100000 murielm99 Jan 2018 #18
And usually ones with low post counts nt maryellen99 Jan 2018 #31
They started at about 12o1 sheshe2 Jan 2018 #56
You bet, she treestar Jan 2018 #57
Eyup EffieBlack Jan 2018 #72
The GOP Regained Ccarmona Jan 2018 #10
There was no situation that would've caused the GOP to pass DACA to end the shutdown. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #14
Taking McConnell's word is a very risky gamble. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #11
Any such headlines are wrong. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #15
Maybe so, but the fact is it's out there. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #20
Schumer doesn't trust him. That's the point. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #22
This! mcar Jan 2018 #34
Exactly! EffieBlack Jan 2018 #73
Doesn't matter if they're wrong, it's what people say and believe. OliverQ Jan 2018 #23
On Feb 8th, all will be clear. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #24
He needed clubbing NOW. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #25
We got 9 million hostages released NOW. The clubbing will be there on Feb 8 scheming daemons Jan 2018 #28
Do you think there will be a "clean" vote on DACA? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #37
There will be... or there won't be. Exact same situation as a week ago. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #39
And if DACA doesn't pass TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #40
They are chess pieces we have no capability to protect. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #43
Good luck trusting McConnell. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #45
I don't trust McConnell. That's the point. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #48
I know some of those "Chess Pieces" atreides1 Jan 2018 #76
Reopening the government didn't change that possibility one iota. EffieBlack Jan 2018 #74
Ya think? Thunderbeast Jan 2018 #63
Even if they are "winning" so what? Most people don't care about that Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #52
He would be publicly going back on his word treestar Jan 2018 #58
Rs gained the knowledge that Ds dont really have the moral courage to fight for DACA Nanjeanne Jan 2018 #12
If DACA doesn't happen, it won't hurt the Dems one bit in November. But it will crush the GOP. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #16
Ya think that? Ok. Nanjeanne Jan 2018 #26
Yes, it will hurt Dems. TDale313 Jan 2018 #30
A minority party in both chambers can literally do *NOTHING* to stop deportations.... *NOTHING* scheming daemons Jan 2018 #38
Pretty Much.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2018 #36
DACA pamdb Jan 2018 #13
one thing that gives me hope, despite what you say about Trump's voters not giving a rat's ass... renate Jan 2018 #61
It's a narrative that won't stick. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #19
Dont the rethugs have a retreat first week of February? Gin Jan 2018 #29
Well According To Some Democrats.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2018 #32
This Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #44
Exactly.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2018 #47
The Cons can no longer play the John Fante Jan 2018 #35
Took a peak at Conservative Daily LyndaG Jan 2018 #42
Folks forget CHIP was unconditionally released from prison. What did R's get? Zero!! Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #65
Tax cuts, apparently. See the thread above yours. X_Digger Jan 2018 #54
I believe its a good deal... NCTraveler Jan 2018 #59
The problem is focusing on parties, not people. Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #62
From Ezra Klein Gothmog Jan 2018 #64
It may be a Small Thing but... charliea Jan 2018 #66
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