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In reply to the discussion: If you believe the Dems were "weak" and "caved" today, please enumerate the things the GOP gained [View all]LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)32. Well According To Some Democrats....
Senate Democrats Get Little as Shutdown Fight Ends With a Punt
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Senate Democrats caved. They blinked. Thats what they do," Democratic Representative Luis Gutierrez of Illinois said in an interview. "Its unfortunate."
Democratic Representative Louise Slaughter of New York said she was baffled as to why Schumer didnt say the government shutdown was McConnells fault since hes responsible for getting the votes. I hear our numbers are dropping like a rock because, supposedly, we closed the government down, she said.
Were taking a great hit, said Slaughter. Totally unjustified. And our people just seem to take it flat-footed.
Democrats also got nothing from the House. Speaker Paul Ryan has promised Republican lawmakers that they wont be bound by any arrangement reached in the Senate on immigration, House Freedom Caucus Chair Mark Meadows and Representative Doug Collins of Georgia said on Sunday.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-22/senate-democrats-get-little-as-shutdown-fight-ends-with-a-punt?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics
Democratic Representative Louise Slaughter of New York said she was baffled as to why Schumer didnt say the government shutdown was McConnells fault since hes responsible for getting the votes. I hear our numbers are dropping like a rock because, supposedly, we closed the government down, she said.
Were taking a great hit, said Slaughter. Totally unjustified. And our people just seem to take it flat-footed.
Democrats also got nothing from the House. Speaker Paul Ryan has promised Republican lawmakers that they wont be bound by any arrangement reached in the Senate on immigration, House Freedom Caucus Chair Mark Meadows and Representative Doug Collins of Georgia said on Sunday.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-22/senate-democrats-get-little-as-shutdown-fight-ends-with-a-punt?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics
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If you believe the Dems were "weak" and "caved" today, please enumerate the things the GOP gained [View all]
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
OP
6 years gets us to early 2024. When there would be (hopefully) a Dem congress and President.
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
#9
But it's not any different than what they were offered on Friday. The Democrats caved- again.
Luciferous
Jan 2018
#49
Yes it is. On Friday, we didn't have McConnell on the record... giving us a hammer for February 8.
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
#51
McConnell won't keep his word. Look what he did to Flake and Collins. And even if
Luciferous
Jan 2018
#53
the basic question is was there any chance of the GOP giving in on DACA to the degree we wanted?
Eliot Rosewater
Jan 2018
#3
There was no situation that would've caused the GOP to pass DACA to end the shutdown.
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
#14
We got 9 million hostages released NOW. The clubbing will be there on Feb 8
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
#28
There will be... or there won't be. Exact same situation as a week ago.
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
#39
Rs gained the knowledge that Ds dont really have the moral courage to fight for DACA
Nanjeanne
Jan 2018
#12
If DACA doesn't happen, it won't hurt the Dems one bit in November. But it will crush the GOP.
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
#16
A minority party in both chambers can literally do *NOTHING* to stop deportations.... *NOTHING*
scheming daemons
Jan 2018
#38
one thing that gives me hope, despite what you say about Trump's voters not giving a rat's ass...
renate
Jan 2018
#61
Folks forget CHIP was unconditionally released from prison. What did R's get? Zero!!
Fred Sanders
Jan 2018
#65