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Edweird

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200. The Moon? How dare you.

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 07:48 PM

Jul 2012

Only losers are from the Moon. (Ignignokt and Err!) Freaks like me are from Mars!

I looked at what was presented to me and drew a very different conclusion from what "everyone" was saying here at DU. I dug deeper and found evidence that confirmed my suspicion and made what I was told was "common knowledge" less likely. Then I got into a nasty fight about it. Things went much farther than I would have liked them to. All signs point to me being right, but I want people to play Devil's advocate and present what 'everyone knows' and use SOME kind of corroboration besides "somebody said". Do you believe he was wearing a 'bullet proof' vest? If so, have you hear or seen anything that actually confirms that? (Brand, style,model number, where he got it, how he got it) I can't. I've looked and looked. I basically need to know if I need to apologize for being wrong and an asshole or for just being an asshole.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Edweird Jul 2012 OP

This should be the tipping point for re-banishing gun posts cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #1

Thanks for the kick. Edweird Jul 2012 #2

i believe in Santa Clause. Prove he doesn't exist. samsingh Jul 2012 #21

Thanks for the kick! Edweird Jul 2012 #28

i'm sure you're getting a lot of kicks right now. quite amusing during this stress time samsingh Jul 2012 #55

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #117

Oh man. That's awesome. But what would really 'show me' is proof about the 'bullet proof' vest. Edweird Jul 2012 #120

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #138

Yeah, that's the one in my OP. It's not a 'bullet proof vest'. It's just a vest. Edweird Jul 2012 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #149

Ok, now which one of those is a bullet proof vest? (Hint: NONE) Edweird Jul 2012 #157

Why would you expect every piece of evidence to be already made public pnwmom Jul 2012 #201

Seriously? We know what he bought and when and where he bought it. Why would this one item Edweird Jul 2012 #202

Seriously? You think omissions never occur? pnwmom Jul 2012 #215

About a 'bullet proof vest'? That's extremely significant. Edweird Jul 2012 #218

Thank You! nt aka-chmeee Jul 2012 #153

PS: I agree with you cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #36

Obama and the families don't want the shooter glorified by attention. freshwest Jul 2012 #4

That's BS. We know everything he bought when and where. Edweird Jul 2012 #10

What's BS? Is that the liimit of your debating abilities? Here's my post, which you didn't read: freshwest Jul 2012 #43

Well, thanks for the kick. Right now I'm looking for bullet proof vest info. We can fight later. Edweird Jul 2012 #49

Why this? NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #12

for pro-gun people, anything that can be used in favor of gun control does not exist. samsingh Jul 2012 #30

Police have verified he wore a bulletproof vest???? Tejas Jul 2012 #129

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #14

No shit! NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #24

wouldn't that be great? cali Jul 2012 #111

I SO agree with you. My first thought reading the orig post: "And this matters how?" /eom dballance Jul 2012 #131

The Derp is strong with this one. WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #3

Can't handle being wrong? Edweird Jul 2012 #13

i think that applies to you samsingh Jul 2012 #33

If I'm wrong PROVE IT. I'm begging for it. Show me what vest he was wearing. Edweird Jul 2012 #56

look in a mirror H2O Man Jul 2012 #148

oooh BURN! Edweird Jul 2012 #162

May I ask why you or anyone else should care? CTyankee Jul 2012 #5

See post #99 WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #8

I think I'll end every OP here now with "Prove me wrong!" Lex Jul 2012 #25

I know. That made me LOL. laundry_queen Jul 2012 #31

Now that is sad. Rex Jul 2012 #34

I just had a knock-down-drag-out over it. If I'm wrong I want to know. Edweird Jul 2012 #32

well, ok then! I guess I'll just tiptoe out the door...don't get up. Really, I can let myself out... CTyankee Jul 2012 #72

If you think I look beat up, you should see the other guys. Edweird Jul 2012 #82

No, no, I'm good, really! No worries... CTyankee Jul 2012 #177

That? Oh that's just how I say "HI" :) Edweird Jul 2012 #203

he's trying to argue that everyone should have been armed in the theatre and that would prevented samsingh Jul 2012 #37

Thanks for the kick. Edweird Jul 2012 #57

Stop drooling. Still illegal for anyone to carry in a theater there. louis-t Jul 2012 #6

I just had a knock-down-drag-out over it. If I'm wrong I want to know. Edweird Jul 2012 #15

Is there a reason we should really care if he was? Lex Jul 2012 #7

I just had a knock-down-drag-out over it. If I'm wrong I want to know. Edweird Jul 2012 #20

Do you care if we have accurate information or not? Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #197

I like it when people don't lie about current events, myself. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #223

The level of discussion over this tragedy has just hit a new GD low. Lone_Star_Dem Jul 2012 #9

Let me help WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #17

If I'm wrong I'm big enough to own it - hence this post. Edweird Jul 2012 #39

When you're right, let me know. nt DocMac Jul 2012 #60

I stand corrected. Lone_Star_Dem Jul 2012 #102

I just had a knock-down-drag-out over it. If I'm wrong I want to know. Edweird Jul 2012 #23

You are wrongheaded.nt redwitch Jul 2012 #121

i believe he was wearing a tshirt underneath. prove me wrong. samsingh Jul 2012 #11

Boxers or briefs? Swede Jul 2012 #16

Boxers. Prove me wrong! Lex Jul 2012 #19

Commando, silly! GObamaGO Jul 2012 #27

both - one was yellow the other was green samsingh Jul 2012 #47

Probably. Those things can chafe. Edweird Jul 2012 #18

It's true and the tshirt said.... Liberal Veteran Jul 2012 #42

You Want Us To Prove A Negative ProfessorGAC Jul 2012 #22

No, I want you to prove that he WAS wearing a bullet proof vest. Not "someone said" Edweird Jul 2012 #26

See My Reply To Your Defender ProfessorGAC Jul 2012 #90

We know everything he bought. When and where. The news articles, like the one in my OP, Edweird Jul 2012 #100

You've got it backward - he's asking for proof of the bullet-proof assertion petronius Jul 2012 #29

Don't Agree ProfessorGAC Jul 2012 #88

I don't believe Edweird is a Klondike Bar as reported. Prove me wrong. trumad Jul 2012 #35

Actually Edweird is a Mr. Goodbar, as reported. Rex Jul 2012 #45

Mmmm Mr Goodbar! Edweird Jul 2012 #51

In fact, acording to Chaos Theory... Shining Jack Jul 2012 #180

Actually he would appear to be a Snickers GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #86

71 people shot. 12 dead. And you want to argue over this. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #38

I just had a knock-down-drag-out over it. If I'm wrong I want to know. Edweird Jul 2012 #44

How many innocent men have been executed due to incorrect facts? Remmah2 Jul 2012 #48

well in his mind they are cowards anyway samsingh Jul 2012 #53

Good way to distort what I said. I was referring to myself, and myself alone. Edweird Jul 2012 #62

For $306.79 the order can not be duplicated, not even close. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #40

My name is Indigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prove me wrong. LanternWaste Jul 2012 #41

So.... nothing but a kick? Thanks for the kick! Edweird Jul 2012 #46

People are kicking it to laugh. Lex Jul 2012 #50

Hey, I got a little rough about this and I want to know if I'm wrong. Edweird Jul 2012 #65

Hate you? leftynyc Jul 2012 #73

Yet you yourself spam and kick..... Edweird Jul 2012 #91

Presumably the police have whatever he was wearing cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #52

No, it's not 'unknowable' - we have everything he bought - except the vest. Edweird Jul 2012 #61

Certainly it is unknowable cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #63

We know the brand and model of everything else. I don't see how this is 'unknowable'. Edweird Jul 2012 #67

Then you don't see it. cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #71

Maybe it was a Christmas present. bluedigger Jul 2012 #69

No, it's been stated clearly that he bought it. But even if it was, Edweird Jul 2012 #74

Have you never lived in Colorado? DocMac Jul 2012 #118

I don't see what you're geting at. Was he wearing a 'bullet proof' vest or not? Edweird Jul 2012 #124

I'm sayin that your op is bullshit, for one. DocMac Jul 2012 #130

Without proof your assertion is worthless. Edweird Jul 2012 #135

This thread is worthless! nt DocMac Jul 2012 #146

NO U! Edweird Jul 2012 #150

However, that post was good. lol. nt DocMac Jul 2012 #164

You don't know shit. bluedigger Jul 2012 #145

Meh. I made my case in the OP. Now you make yours. Show me some proof. Edweird Jul 2012 #152

You want accurate reporting based upon actual facts? Facts slow things down. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #54

Why does it matter anyway? n/t doc03 Jul 2012 #58

What does it matter? Bulletproof gear or not, are the victims any less dead? Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #59

This thread WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #64

I can't see it but I'm sure it's as witty as it is insulting - but shouldn't you be researching Edweird Jul 2012 #70

Clint Eastwood made his own DocMac Jul 2012 #66

Ok, so substantiate that. You've got a theory now prove it. Edweird Jul 2012 #80

Don't you have the ability to watch the movie? DocMac Jul 2012 #101

I'm looking for someone to come forward and show me what kind of bullet proof vest he was wearing. Edweird Jul 2012 #114

So did Ned Kelly and his gang: petronius Jul 2012 #84

And that's as good an answer as i've seen. DocMac Jul 2012 #105

With all due respect, but what does it matter if he was wearing one or not? Alduin Jul 2012 #68

I'm getting ready to get a glass of Prosecco. Care to join me? CTyankee Jul 2012 #75

Sure. Alduin Jul 2012 #78

too heavy for me but that's good! CTyankee Jul 2012 #193

I just had a huge rough fight about it and if I'm wrong I want to know. Edweird Jul 2012 #76

Does it matter if you "win" an online "fight?" Alduin Jul 2012 #81

No, but I was harsh with some people and if I'm wrong I want to apologize. Edweird Jul 2012 #85

Touche. Alduin Jul 2012 #96

if everyone krhines Jul 2012 #83

Ok, so someone in that group of 'everyone' knows what he was wearing. Edweird Jul 2012 #93

So this is a continuation of the thread where you called the victims "cowards"? zappaman Jul 2012 #77

The only thing despicable is your deliberate micharacterization. Edweird Jul 2012 #89

"Better than dying a coward's death. If I fight I at least have SOME chance." zappaman Jul 2012 #97

*I* *I* Mischaracterize all you want. *I* don't care. *I* have to live with my actions Edweird Jul 2012 #103

"The truth doesn't matter to a lot of people here." WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #104

I'm wide open. I'm begging you to show me I'm wrong. Show me. Shut me down. Edweird Jul 2012 #108

Open mind? CreekDog Jul 2012 #176

It's okay. zappaman Jul 2012 #107

Ok then. Edweird Jul 2012 #110

Wow mythology Jul 2012 #182

Eh, that's people taking stuff out of context. We all know the theater was 'gun free'. Edweird Jul 2012 #184

lol krhines Jul 2012 #79

You can purchase surplus body armor in cash at gun shows. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #87

Ok, but there's going to be a tag on the vest. What kind was it? Edweird Jul 2012 #94

I looked at his vest...it was definitely body armor...prove me wrong... rfranklin Jul 2012 #99

I made my case in the OP - now make yours. Edweird Jul 2012 #136

No tag, but here's the instruction manual. Tejas Jul 2012 #139

Is that Star Wars? Edweird Jul 2012 #147

Brady: it'll stop 50BMG at 20 miles. Tejas Jul 2012 #160

Call the police dept and ask them. n/t Lucinda Jul 2012 #115

What do you mean "tag"? OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #123

Yeah, that's the tag. Edweird Jul 2012 #134

You are a prime example why we need more gun regulations Boxcar Willie Jul 2012 #92

LOL. Edweird Jul 2012 #95

WTF? chowder66 Jul 2012 #126

Do you have ANY proof that he wore a 'bullet proof' vest besides "everyone says"? Edweird Jul 2012 #155

NO. I was not there. Were you? chowder66 Jul 2012 #171

Please don't council people with low post counts. DocMac Jul 2012 #156

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What the hell is wrong with you? Marrah_G Jul 2012 #122

Oh, okay, not guilty then jberryhill Jul 2012 #106

I'm really getting tired of these gun threads steve2470 Jul 2012 #109

and quite a few are losing them...their minds I mean! likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #113

It would sting so much more if you could prove he was wearing a 'bullet proof' vest. Edweird Jul 2012 #119

I hesitate to even reply, but I could not really care less if he was wrapped in saran or encased in likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #125

It's getting really nasty Marrah_G Jul 2012 #132

Oh but this is a 'bullet proof vest' thread. Totally different. Edweird Jul 2012 #205

uh huh nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #208

With the right bullet, nothing is really bulletproof. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #116

Too true. That why I refer to it as 'bullet proof'. Edweird Jul 2012 #140

Why is this relevant? Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #127

That's true. I just had a rough fight with some long time members and if I'm wrong I want to know. Edweird Jul 2012 #137

I don't care if he was wearing this ... JoePhilly Jul 2012 #128

accuracy in reporting vs making crap up? Tejas Jul 2012 #141

In the days immediately following something like this ... the media JoePhilly Jul 2012 #161

I guess this is where I insert my recipe? Texasgal Jul 2012 #133

Yummy!!! Marrah_G Jul 2012 #142

Damn that sounds good! zappaman Jul 2012 #143

LOL! Texasgal Jul 2012 #172

Sounds AWESOME! Edweird Jul 2012 #163

Yes, but can you prove that it is the right one? nt DocMac Jul 2012 #216

Yes I can! Texasgal Jul 2012 #220

Here is what he was wearing, according to earlier DU thread--looks different than librechik Jul 2012 #151

Not even in the same universe with 'bulletproof'. Tejas Jul 2012 #158

Maybe Holmes thought it was bullet proof. Doesn't change anything even if he were naked. Hoyt Jul 2012 #167

So, you could care less about accuracy in reporting? Tejas Jul 2012 #170

In this case, I really don't give a dang whether he was wearing armor or not. He did use guns that Hoyt Jul 2012 #175

Yeah, he had bad breath too. Tejas Jul 2012 #183

It's ... not really possible for someone to confuse a tactical vest for body armor. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #226

Ooh intimidating -but not supported by the information we have. Edweird Jul 2012 #159

Keep in mind that common knowledge isn't always common. Tejas Jul 2012 #165

Why do you keep insisting "we have receipts for all his stuff?" missingthebigdog Jul 2012 #221

SCREW FACTS, ROLL THE PRESSES! Tejas Jul 2012 #154

I don't believe James Holmes is Human as reported. Prove me wrong. Shining Jack Jul 2012 #166

I.... can't Edweird Jul 2012 #168

Don't you just love all the noise from the "cold, dead hands" crowd!! retread Jul 2012 #169

If it didn't already exist, this post could've caused the invention of the word CreekDog Jul 2012 #173

Oh man. Weak sauce. Seriously. You gotta up your game. Edweird Jul 2012 #185

"HEY, who said he bought it retail?" jp11 Jul 2012 #174

I'm not saying he bought it retail - or that he even bought it. Edweird Jul 2012 #187

Does proof of one vest prove he does not own more? chowder66 Jul 2012 #178

No but the only proof I've come along so far leads to a 'tactical vest' or whatever Edweird Jul 2012 #189

That's fine. Reports usually are a bit disconnected in the first week or so... chowder66 Jul 2012 #196

I agree with you Edweird,tired of all this vest talk from Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #179

Ed, the FUCK does it matter what he was wearing? you're just trolling with this post. dionysus Jul 2012 #181

Hyperbole is disengenuous, but don't let that stop you Tejas Jul 2012 #186

No Edweird Jul 2012 #190

if you say so, i'll take you at your word then. dionysus Jul 2012 #194

I might be a fucking weirdo, but I am an honest fucking weirdo. Edweird Jul 2012 #204

"I like to deal in facts." DocMac Jul 2012 #222

so you say you have already decided the issue, and now you want us to prove you wrong? librechik Jul 2012 #188

Meh. If you don't have anything other than "they say" it's ok. Edweird Jul 2012 #191

your funny moon language is incomprehensible to me. librechik Jul 2012 #192

The Moon? How dare you. Edweird Jul 2012 #200

Why do you care??? greytdemocrat Jul 2012 #195

Why the fuck should anybody prove anything DevonRex Jul 2012 #198

Because I'm an unpopular asshole? Edweird Jul 2012 #206

Snarf... trumad Jul 2012 #207

ooooh you really showed me didn't you! I will cry myself to sleep for a thousand nights.... Edweird Jul 2012 #210

Really dude--- step back for a minute and read your thread. trumad Jul 2012 #212

I need to start hiding threads until they put gun threads back in the gungeon. Edweird Jul 2012 #217

Trumad, just the guy I had in mind. DevonRex Jul 2012 #211

Not that interested, sorry. DevonRex Jul 2012 #209

Maybe.. but look at this thread ^ Edweird Jul 2012 #213

Ok, so you're not wrong. Happy now? Xipe Totec Jul 2012 #199

So if theatre goers were carrying they could have shot him? HockeyMom Jul 2012 #214

Gun free zone. Edweird Jul 2012 #219

so what do you win if he didn't have a bp vest? Whisp Jul 2012 #224

Imagine you're a deer GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2012 #225

I can't see imbeded videos :( Is it 'My Cousin Vinny'? Edweird Jul 2012 #227