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MercutioATC

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10. I don't see how the football program at Penn State is to blame.

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:14 AM

Jul 2012

One assistant coach committed a crime. His boss failed to report it to the police.

...and athletes at the college all suffer.

I think the NCAA should limit itself to actual sports-related matters, especially when it feels the need to make an example of somebody.

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Penn State fans/alumni are having a HAL 9000-type psychotic break: [View all] PCIntern Jul 2012 OP

That's a good one about the sky... joeybee12 Jul 2012 #1

Actually, the sky is Carolina Blue. Go Tar Heels! 11 Bravo Jul 2012 #57

Actually, the sunset is bunt orange. Hook 'em Horns! ashling Jul 2012 #80

Grew up in central PA...Every Steelworker/Miner had two dreams for their boys:: Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #2

I'm not sure that PA only rivals Texas in football social life. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #46

High School Football.... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #48

You forgot to mention deer season. jerseyjack Jul 2012 #3

+1 alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #4

Not a myth CANDO Jul 2012 #49

Yes. Penn State, football, deer season. The holy trinity of rural and working class PA. TwilightGardener Jul 2012 #41

The NCAA penalties WERE draconian. MercutioATC Jul 2012 #5

I'm assuming this type of public punishment are also meant to send a message lunatica Jul 2012 #6

Maybe it's because I don't take sports as seriously as some. MercutioATC Jul 2012 #8

It wasn't the crime. It was the cover-up. IdaBriggs Jul 2012 #40

Very well said. redqueen Jul 2012 #56

The cover up made a one-person crime become the crime of all of them DonRedwood Jul 2012 #58

You missed something in all the reporting. ieoeja Jul 2012 #71

please, correct me if wrong, however, "...The guy who caught him in the showers..." Raster Jul 2012 #88

You are correct. That is exactly how he made him stop. Then he turned him into school admin. nt ieoeja Jul 2012 #90

Not to be the contrarian, however, it only made sandusky temporarily stop. After locker-slam guy... Raster Jul 2012 #92

Bingo. hifiguy Jul 2012 #60

College football is a business, period. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #9

I don't see how the football program at Penn State is to blame. MercutioATC Jul 2012 #10

A man commits murder, goes to prison and his wife and children suffer... joeybee12 Jul 2012 #19

But do we directly penalize the wife and kids? MercutioATC Jul 2012 #22

How are they directly penalized? It's not their money... joeybee12 Jul 2012 #24

Reducing the number of scholarships by 20? MercutioATC Jul 2012 #27

Paterno covered for and permitted it to happen. morningfog Jul 2012 #43

Paterno had the most wins in College Football ipfilter Jul 2012 #76

True, but you don't fine the town that he lived in because he lived there. joeglow3 Jul 2012 #53

The coverup was specifically to protect the football program. Of course it's to blame. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #63

you fail to see because you have no understanding.. frylock Jul 2012 #65

i think it is appropriate and fair. barbtries Jul 2012 #11

I agree with you. How is pulling those millions in the 'fine' going to ...... marble falls Jul 2012 #12

Exactly, punish the offending individuals, MercutioATC Jul 2012 #13

I think it is great. Send a message. Hit them where it hurts. morningfog Jul 2012 #44

The fine is going to help abused people. IdaBriggs Jul 2012 #42

"Nothing to do with sports..." Alduin Jul 2012 #16

As far as the INDIVIDUALS concerned, I agree MercutioATC Jul 2012 #18

The NCAA has no authority in academics. Alduin Jul 2012 #21

It's also a huge ethical issue and the NCAA does get involved with ethics at least sometimes.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #23

Neither you nor Alduin answered my question. MercutioATC Jul 2012 #26

Not penalizing the program would certainly send a message of approval to some.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #28

If this was for player steroid use or some form of cheating, I'd agree. MercutioATC Jul 2012 #30

Because it was largely the program that enabled Sandusky's crimes.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #47

So, you think the English department should be eliminated in the aforementioned question? joeglow3 Jul 2012 #55

Penn State football was not eliminated exboyfil Jul 2012 #62

In fact, had the university English dept done this, the university might well have been eliminated. ieoeja Jul 2012 #75

sandusky's crimes were covered up by paterno and the athletic dept ffs! frylock Jul 2012 #69

which students are being penalized? frylock Jul 2012 #68

English teachers don't usually hang out in the locker room and morningfog Jul 2012 #45

what part of these "individuals" representing the "institution" are you not getting? frylock Jul 2012 #66

If his superiors in the English Department and college that it fell in helped cover it up, then yes. whopis01 Jul 2012 #79

The Football and other PSU officials hid criminal behavior obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #17

Neither Paterno nor Sandusky are the Penn State football program. MercutioATC Jul 2012 #20

That's a situation that just wouldn't occur.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #29

I'm allergic to straw and other grasses obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #54

paterno was not only the football program, he was the most powerful MAN on campus! frylock Jul 2012 #70

How much money does the English department rake in? KamaAina Jul 2012 #77

Had an academic dept done this, the entire university should have been shuttered. ieoeja Jul 2012 #78

They needed to be. Do you think that all Skidmore Jul 2012 #39

Draconian and very wrong. CANDO Jul 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #52

They're the ones that decided to not call the police, and just let little boys be raped. Dash87 Jul 2012 #81

"If you knowingly let kids get raped" ... The PSU football players now being punished were ... 11 Bravo Jul 2012 #82

It's the school being punished. Dash87 Jul 2012 #83

"Appealing to the 'What about the PSU students' is lame because it acts as if the punishment ... 11 Bravo Jul 2012 #84

You missed the second part Dash87 Jul 2012 #89

the PSU players can fucking leave! frylock Jul 2012 #86

Hey, what's raping a few children compared to football? RainDog Jul 2012 #87

Which is why the NCAA is letting them transfer out of the program hifiguy Jul 2012 #91

do share barbtries Jul 2012 #7

It went like this: Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #35

lol barbtries Jul 2012 #36

Have them sing 'Daisy' as they go under. doohnibor Jul 2012 #14

I disgree with you about one thing obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #15

We should pay close attention. This is what it looks like when you topple over someone's sacred cow. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #25

Implosion and supernova... PCIntern Jul 2012 #31

Hopefully they'll go out with a whimper and not a bang. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #33

Well, they need to get over it and GROW THE FUCK UP hatrack Jul 2012 #32

Don't joke about this sort of thing 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #34

I'm sure they hate asterisks now too. lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #37

Yeah...tough shit. nt PCIntern Jul 2012 #38

It's completely mind boggling how many Paterno / Penn State fans are in denial. Initech Jul 2012 #51

What sort of conversations? Any epiphanies? pnwmom Jul 2012 #59

It takes time for people to understand that their heros are, after all, only 1monster Jul 2012 #61

Some of the responses in this thread certainly prove your point, don't they? (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #64

That very disconnect appears even within this thread... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #67

It's terrible. I've accepted reality though. Avalux Jul 2012 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author JoePhilly Jul 2012 #73

I grew up in Philly, so I believe it. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #74

great post RainDog Jul 2012 #85