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pnwmom

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Tue Feb 20, 2018, 02:24 PM Feb 2018

Why the Manafort/Gates prosecutions might drag Tad Devine in, [View all]

at least as a witness, if nothing else.

All three worked for pro-Putin Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovych, on whose behalf the recently charged Dutch lawyer drafted the "Scadden report." The purpose of the Scadden report was to whitewash the political prosecution of another political leader whom Yanukovych had imprisoned.

Devine has not been publicly connected to that particular situation, but both Manafort and Devine were being paid at about the same time for the same general mission: to promote the interests of Yanukovych.

http://www.shakesville.com/2017/03/the-more-information-about-manafort-we.html

To recap: Both Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign chair, and Tad Devine, Sanders' chief strategist, worked for the pro-Putin Viktor Yanukovych. Joel Benenson, Clinton's chief strategist, worked for Yanukovych's anti-Putin rival Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Yanukovych was ousted in 2014, at which time Yatsenyuk became Prime Minister, the same year that Devine goes to work for Sanders. (Manafort onboarded with the Trump campaign later.)

So, two U.S. strategists worked for a pro-Putin Ukrainian, then each went to work for U.S. presidential campaigns whose chief opponent, in both cases, was Hillary Clinton, who is virulently hated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Then both of those campaigns are given a huge assist by Russian hacking and a massive disinformation campaign orchestrated by Russian intelligence.

Now, just to be extremely clear that I'm not suggesting a straight-up equivalence between the two campaigns, let me point out a couple of major differences.

1. Tad Devine has not been accused of any illegal activities in association with his work for Yanukovych, unlike Paul Manafort.

2. Bernie Sanders, who has visited Russia, has not been, to my knowledge, suspected of being vulnerable by Russian kompromat cultivated on his visits, unlike Donald Trump.


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They all knew RU was in it to keep HRC from becoming Pres. Wwcd Feb 2018 #1
I Wondered When His Name Was Going To Pop Up Me. Feb 2018 #2
Wonder if he'll have to turn over financials. Wwcd Feb 2018 #3
Maybe We'll Find That 10 Mil Me. Feb 2018 #5
To know that answer will mean revisiting the FEC campaign filing. Wwcd Feb 2018 #8
As an aside on Cianci Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #36
Man, that's quite a story. I get the hometown guy loyalty, to a point.but Wwcd Feb 2018 #38
It is certainly a story worthy of Scorsese Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #42
Maybe Tad Devine will show up on Mueller's TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #4
Not sure. Post it if you locate it. He may just be a relative with no ties to any of Tad's business. Wwcd Feb 2018 #9
I found a Douglas Devine that stepped down from UTAC TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #20
If its out there we'll come across it sooner or later. Wwcd Feb 2018 #21
Are you thinking of John Podesta's brother ? OnDoutside Feb 2018 #23
Could be... Did he step down from some Wall St firm? TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #27
Welll time will tell on Ted Devines piece of tjis and i think Bernie visited Russia in 1988. CentralMass Feb 2018 #6
? This is about Manafort & Devine & their dubious history. Wwcd Feb 2018 #7
This isn't an examination mythology Feb 2018 #10
Omg..stop it. Wwcd Feb 2018 #28
While Sanders having visited Russia (In 1988) was thrown in to stir it up. CentralMass Feb 2018 #15
Wasn't Devine his chief political strategist? George II Feb 2018 #33
It appears Devine's main occupation in all listed dealings has been as a media strategist. Wwcd Feb 2018 #41
From wikipedia: George II Feb 2018 #47
Would probaly know every trick inthe book with that global resume. Wwcd Feb 2018 #49
WHAT "OTHER CAMP" are you talking about? George II Feb 2018 #12
Good question George. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #22
has to be implying if they wanted to they could attack Hillary...but how? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #30
So You're Saying Devine Didn't Work With Manafort In Ukraine? Me. Feb 2018 #14
.... George II Feb 2018 #48
K&R sheshe2 Feb 2018 #11
One would think so mcar Feb 2018 #13
K&R Gothmog Feb 2018 #16
I hope not. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #17
There are all sorts of murky dealings btwn political figures past & present involving Russia money CentralMass Feb 2018 #18
Who's slinging mud? We're discussing Manafort & Devine due to their history together in elections Wwcd Feb 2018 #24
Operative word - BEFORE! And the plot had nothing to do with the deal at all...... George II Feb 2018 #32
Hillary is the answer! Cha Feb 2018 #19
Aha..there she is. Sipping her tea, sweetened with a bit of honey Wwcd Feb 2018 #25
Ever so wise.. Cha Feb 2018 #26
mmm hmm. Wwcd Feb 2018 #29
hmmm Cha Feb 2018 #37
Yup, common target was Hillary. R B Garr Feb 2018 #44
Wow..that would reveal all we need. Think Mueller's on it by now. Wwcd Feb 2018 #46
Surely this pic is NOT controversial around here of all places! Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #31
Nope.. the only Russian agent Hillary Cha Feb 2018 #39
lol, I love that! R B Garr Feb 2018 #43
Hey RB.. the link with the hattip.. Cha Feb 2018 #45
Yep.(nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #35
Something to think about.(nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #34
Well, Gates used to work with Manafort and we see R B Garr Feb 2018 #40
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