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LeftInTX

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15. If the gun was in the mother's clenched fist, pretty sure it is a sign

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 08:57 PM

Feb 2018

Also position of body and trajectory.

People have tried using a suicide defense when they have murdered someone. The prosecutors always point to bullet trajectory and the fact that the gun was not in the person's clenched fist. One woman murdered her husband in bed and claimed he committed suicide. They said the angle of trajectory was wrong.

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I call bullshit on this scenario..Mom Kills Kids and Self [View all] angstlessk Feb 2018 OP

It happens, Susan Smith comes to mind. There's no one rule to these things. nt Nailzberg Feb 2018 #1

Not even close...she survived! angstlessk Feb 2018 #2

She murdered her children and not at home. Thats the point. Same with my case or many many others. anneboleyn Feb 2018 #6

Um snort Feb 2018 #10

Tell that to the kids. Nailzberg Feb 2018 #11

Not the exact same scenario, but it was close to home NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #3

Diane Downs in Oregon. Went for a drive, shot all 3 kids. Shrike47 Feb 2018 #4

Diane Downs did not die angstlessk Feb 2018 #26

That kind of supports the OP's point. Downs's aim was simply to murder her children. Squinch Feb 2018 #35

Watch Dear Zachary: a letter to a son about his father. That will shatter illusions about what a anneboleyn Feb 2018 #5

I saw that...It was heartbreaking! angstlessk Feb 2018 #8

She might have been driving around pondering what to do LeftInTX Feb 2018 #7

A person close to the victim could shoot them in close vicinity angstlessk Feb 2018 #9

If the gun was in the mother's clenched fist, pretty sure it is a sign LeftInTX Feb 2018 #15

This is the first report... angstlessk Feb 2018 #18

And shell have gunshot residue on her hands. cwydro Feb 2018 #25

Yep LeftInTX Feb 2018 #27

Diane Downs shot her three children in her car. Kaleva Feb 2018 #12

Were you there, if so, go to the police angstlessk Feb 2018 #14

Then why don't you go to the police with your evidence? Kaleva Feb 2018 #16

This thread is a hoot. cwydro Feb 2018 #37

Were you? pintobean Feb 2018 #17

Honey, at least I live in Detroit angstlessk Feb 2018 #19

You're being very rude for no reason. pintobean Feb 2018 #21

I dont get why she doesnt believe it. cwydro Feb 2018 #24

I would imagine they checked his whereabouts. cwydro Feb 2018 #30

she didn't kill herself! angstlessk Feb 2018 #29

This what you said in your OP Kaleva Feb 2018 #33

Actually this is very prelimary angstlessk Feb 2018 #13

Why do people defend the husband's report? Or is it just me? angstlessk Feb 2018 #20

Bet cash money...no more posts! angstlessk Feb 2018 #22

Now you're replying to yourself repeatedly. pintobean Feb 2018 #31

Snort SharonClark Feb 2018 #47

Perhaps if you weren't blankly refusing to even consider that you could be wrong mythology Feb 2018 #45

It happened near where I live a couple months ago. cwydro Feb 2018 #23

got a link angstlessk Feb 2018 #32

Google Charlotte woman kills kids, then self. cwydro Feb 2018 #36

Trying to apply logic to an obviously suicidal, mentally ill person is pointless EffieBlack Feb 2018 #28

Why are people so afraid to think differently angstlessk Feb 2018 #34

Why are you so afraid when they do? Nt B2G Feb 2018 #42

That's kind of an astute observation. I'll be curious about developments in this now. Squinch Feb 2018 #38

OJ used a knife. cwydro Feb 2018 #40

Oops. Yes. But the concept holds. I'll correct. Squinch Feb 2018 #41

I would await further facts Ellen Forradalom Feb 2018 #39

Did you ever get out of your bad situation? Kali Feb 2018 #43

Good question. nt cwydro Feb 2018 #44

shit happens. onenote Feb 2018 #46

They got video of the dad with the kids...what about video with the mom? angstlessk Feb 2018 #48