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Straw Man

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25. Yes -- I stand corrected.

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 10:40 PM

Feb 2018

Sorry to hear about your hearing loss. I have some tinnitus from playing loud rock 'n' roll in my youth. I use plugs and muffs. I'm in NY, and suppressors are illegal, regardless of NFA.

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Are "sawed-off" shotguns legal ? [View all] kentuck Feb 2018 OP

That's not true. A shorter barrel results in the same or lower velocity... PoliticAverse Feb 2018 #1

BINGO! Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #24

This information is incorrect ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #2

Yes, if not less than 18." The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #3

Why should a shotgun be illegal but an AR-15 be legal? kentuck Feb 2018 #4

A rifle has similar restrictions on overall & barrel length. n/t X_Digger Feb 2018 #15

Don't get that, a rifle has similar restrictions on barrel length? I don't know doc03 Feb 2018 #31

Rifles must have a 16" barrel and 26" overall length NickB79 Feb 2018 #33

There are hanguns under 16" that shoot certain shells also used in rifles. Is the doc03 Feb 2018 #37

The .44 magnum, while a very powerful pistol round is not very powerful comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #40

Thompson and Center makes the Contendor pistol in. 223 and. 308 with doc03 Feb 2018 #43

Yeah I'm aware of those pistols that fire rifle cartriges but I don't have any comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #44

Seems a shotgun FAR better for "home defence by a single mother" as the vile NRA propganda Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #29

Yes a shotgun with reduced recoil buckshot Still In Wisconsin Feb 2018 #38

I am not advocating for any gun for "home defence" let me be clear. Oxymoronic to have a gun for. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #39

They're more deadly at close range because of wider shot spread. highplainsdem Feb 2018 #5

And the NRA doesn't have a problem with this weapon being illegal?? kentuck Feb 2018 #7

The NRA is motivated primarily by profits, gun sales, and sawed-off shotguns aren't currently much highplainsdem Feb 2018 #8

They do, I'm sure... Adrahil Feb 2018 #16

Short-barreled shotguns are illegal at the federal level. Straw Man Feb 2018 #18

Not illegal... you just have to get the NFA tax stamp. Adrahil Feb 2018 #21

Yes -- I stand corrected. Straw Man Feb 2018 #25

What about short barreled handguns that fire the 410 shotgun shell? doc03 Feb 2018 #32

They also fire .45 Colt rounds NickB79 Feb 2018 #34

And they're not smoothbore. Straw Man Feb 2018 #45

Shotgun not NEAR as fun as firing a 30 round magazine from a military grade war weapon! Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #30

6 rounds x 9 pellets equals 54 projectiles going downrange. Straw Man Feb 2018 #46

Federal- yes sarisataka Feb 2018 #6

I grew up in MA and they were illegal then. maveric Feb 2018 #9

A shot gun has to be 18" in length to be legal Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #10

But an AR is legal? kentuck Feb 2018 #11

Welcome to America. n/t Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #12

Yeah... I think we should put semi-auto center-fire rifles with removable mags on the NFA list too.. Adrahil Feb 2018 #17

The only thing stopping Assault Weapon Bans is the lack of deep, broad support hack89 Feb 2018 #22

Switch blade knives are illegal in Ohio if they are purchased in another doc03 Feb 2018 #35

Nope. Not true dumbcat Feb 2018 #14

Shotgun barrels need to be at least 18' long while rifle barrels need to be at least 16" long. briv1016 Feb 2018 #13

And then there is this little jewel... mitch96 Feb 2018 #19

Here's what the ATF has to say about their ruling. Straw Man Feb 2018 #27

That has to hurt like hell to shoot. And your target has to be right up close. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #41

Supposedly it doesn't hurt too much. Straw Man Feb 2018 #47

It looks like it was designed for knocking over 7-11 stores on the graveyard shift. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #48

Something like that. Straw Man Feb 2018 #49

Lots of misinformation that needs correcting here. Straw Man Feb 2018 #20

Back in the '70s we used to shorten the barrels of cheap single shots to hunt ruffed grouse rzemanfl Feb 2018 #26

Yes, and ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #28

They were 30" full choke barrels. When I saved up for an 870 I opted for 26" Improved rzemanfl Feb 2018 #50

I have a Winchester model 1897 with the choke cut off mitch96 Feb 2018 #51

Wait? What? Where do you get your information? aikoaiko Feb 2018 #23

See US vs Miller...figure if Miller had a BAR and a defense, full-autos would be jmg257 Feb 2018 #36

BAR, that was Clyde Barrow's gun of choice. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #42