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Straw Man

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47. Supposedly it doesn't hurt too much.

Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:17 AM

Feb 2018

I haven't shot one, but from what I've heard, you hold it out to your side and let your arms move to absorb the recoil. But yes, very hard to aim accurately, and very hard to reacquire the target between shots. I think it's a crap idea whose main appeal is to Mad Max fans.

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Are "sawed-off" shotguns legal ? [View all] kentuck Feb 2018 OP

That's not true. A shorter barrel results in the same or lower velocity... PoliticAverse Feb 2018 #1

BINGO! Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #24

This information is incorrect ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #2

Yes, if not less than 18." The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #3

Why should a shotgun be illegal but an AR-15 be legal? kentuck Feb 2018 #4

A rifle has similar restrictions on overall & barrel length. n/t X_Digger Feb 2018 #15

Don't get that, a rifle has similar restrictions on barrel length? I don't know doc03 Feb 2018 #31

Rifles must have a 16" barrel and 26" overall length NickB79 Feb 2018 #33

There are hanguns under 16" that shoot certain shells also used in rifles. Is the doc03 Feb 2018 #37

The .44 magnum, while a very powerful pistol round is not very powerful comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #40

Thompson and Center makes the Contendor pistol in. 223 and. 308 with doc03 Feb 2018 #43

Yeah I'm aware of those pistols that fire rifle cartriges but I don't have any comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #44

Seems a shotgun FAR better for "home defence by a single mother" as the vile NRA propganda Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #29

Yes a shotgun with reduced recoil buckshot Still In Wisconsin Feb 2018 #38

I am not advocating for any gun for "home defence" let me be clear. Oxymoronic to have a gun for. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #39

They're more deadly at close range because of wider shot spread. highplainsdem Feb 2018 #5

And the NRA doesn't have a problem with this weapon being illegal?? kentuck Feb 2018 #7

The NRA is motivated primarily by profits, gun sales, and sawed-off shotguns aren't currently much highplainsdem Feb 2018 #8

They do, I'm sure... Adrahil Feb 2018 #16

Short-barreled shotguns are illegal at the federal level. Straw Man Feb 2018 #18

Not illegal... you just have to get the NFA tax stamp. Adrahil Feb 2018 #21

Yes -- I stand corrected. Straw Man Feb 2018 #25

What about short barreled handguns that fire the 410 shotgun shell? doc03 Feb 2018 #32

They also fire .45 Colt rounds NickB79 Feb 2018 #34

And they're not smoothbore. Straw Man Feb 2018 #45

Shotgun not NEAR as fun as firing a 30 round magazine from a military grade war weapon! Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #30

6 rounds x 9 pellets equals 54 projectiles going downrange. Straw Man Feb 2018 #46

Federal- yes sarisataka Feb 2018 #6

I grew up in MA and they were illegal then. maveric Feb 2018 #9

A shot gun has to be 18" in length to be legal Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #10

But an AR is legal? kentuck Feb 2018 #11

Welcome to America. n/t Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #12

Yeah... I think we should put semi-auto center-fire rifles with removable mags on the NFA list too.. Adrahil Feb 2018 #17

The only thing stopping Assault Weapon Bans is the lack of deep, broad support hack89 Feb 2018 #22

Switch blade knives are illegal in Ohio if they are purchased in another doc03 Feb 2018 #35

Nope. Not true dumbcat Feb 2018 #14

Shotgun barrels need to be at least 18' long while rifle barrels need to be at least 16" long. briv1016 Feb 2018 #13

And then there is this little jewel... mitch96 Feb 2018 #19

Here's what the ATF has to say about their ruling. Straw Man Feb 2018 #27

That has to hurt like hell to shoot. And your target has to be right up close. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #41

Supposedly it doesn't hurt too much. Straw Man Feb 2018 #47

It looks like it was designed for knocking over 7-11 stores on the graveyard shift. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #48

Something like that. Straw Man Feb 2018 #49

Lots of misinformation that needs correcting here. Straw Man Feb 2018 #20

Back in the '70s we used to shorten the barrels of cheap single shots to hunt ruffed grouse rzemanfl Feb 2018 #26

Yes, and ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #28

They were 30" full choke barrels. When I saved up for an 870 I opted for 26" Improved rzemanfl Feb 2018 #50

I have a Winchester model 1897 with the choke cut off mitch96 Feb 2018 #51

Wait? What? Where do you get your information? aikoaiko Feb 2018 #23

See US vs Miller...figure if Miller had a BAR and a defense, full-autos would be jmg257 Feb 2018 #36

BAR, that was Clyde Barrow's gun of choice. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #42