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Hoyt

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43. Well, if one is armed up to shoot neighbors, they are a sicko as far as I am concerned.

Sun Feb 25, 2018, 04:11 PM

Feb 2018

Most of the people who do that are outright racists who believe minorities are going to flee the cities and kill them. Gretna New Orleans is an good example.

In fact, a few years ago, our own Gungeoneers had a discussion before a storm headed to NYC asking what was the best weapon to use to protect your home from people fleeing the storm.

In my opinion, most of the serious gun-strokers are just white wing racists, and that's an example.

What we need is another General Honore to yell out to gunners like he did when the National Guard arrived in NO -- "Put those God D___ guns down, that's not what we are here for."

Most of us are better than that.

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